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Tracking China's Muslim Gulag

Should this method of "reducating Muslims" be copied and implemented in other countries?

  • Yes

  • No

  • China should be an exception.


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Do the "vocational and re education" training schools in other parts of china come with electric fencing, watch towers and prison like perimeter walls?
How do you know those watch towered complex are re education centers? Just because the western media says so? as for fencing, it's common in every school in China, cause some psychos target our children sometimes and all over China school security is always very heavy.
 
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This is how such extremist ideologies should be dealt with. Every country should follow the Chinese lead and regulate Islam and Mosques. Heck the Chinese government have converted some of the unsanctioned mosques into bars and pubs. Imagine a mosque being converted in a pub!

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In Kashgar, the ancient Silk Road oasis town in Xinjiang’s southern Uighur heartland, locals say they live in fear. As security forces have blanketed the region and high-tech surveillance has become pervasive, there have been waves of mass detentions of Muslims in places like Kashgar.

The arrests peaked last year as police convoys with sirens blaring took people away, their heads covered in black hoods. In Kashgar, the locals say that many of those detained have not yet returned. On the streets, there are few young men to be seen.


“You can go to a Uighur and slap him in the face and he won’t dare retaliate,” said one Han Chinese local, who grew up with Uighurs in Kashgar and saw many of his friends taken away. “It’s going to be quiet for another one or two years, but then what? The greater the pressure, the fiercer the backlash.”


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Mosques across Xinjiang are now adorned with Chinese flags and banners exhorting people to “Love the Party, Love the Country.” During Friday prayers, the mosques are almost empty.


The Chinese government has been trying to change the ethnic balance by shifting members of the majority Han Chinese into the region. That policy is reflected in other ways on the ground – such as the dramatic transformation of the Old Town section of Kashgar, once considered one of the best-preserved sites of traditional Islamic and Central Asian architecture in the region.


One mosque has been transformed into a trendy hookah lounge and bar serving shisha tobacco and alcohol. The interior of the “Dream of Kashgar 2018” has been renovated and freshly painted, except for the ceiling, where the original wood carvings and tapestries have been preserved.


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Nice!!

What's the use of mosques when the chinese muslims are being 're-educated" into becoming atheists.

You give China way too much credit.

They deserve all the credit they can get!

Imagine holding million/s of 'muslim citizens' and 're-educating' them to become disciplined citizens.
 
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You tell me. As far as I am concerned, I couldn't care less about Muslims, and I hope every Islamic separatist movement around the world is crushed the same way the Chinese crushed the Uyghurs.

Why?... Every people deserves freedom.
 
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How do you know those watch towered complex are re education centers? Just because the western media says so? as for fencing, it's common in every school in China, cause some psychos target our children sometimes and all over China school security is always very heavy.

As I said, read the article. They have done a full research along with satellite imagery. Its not a new "re-education gulag", rather an addition to the existing facility.

A remote place with snow-capped mountains and sprawling wind farms, the district of Dabancheng is home to one of the largest camps.

It is one of many that have been built from scratch. It is surrounded by a barbed wire fence and high perimeter wall. A sign at the main entrance reads: “Urumqi Vocational Education Training Center.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/muslims-camps-china/

Are you not able to see/click on the reuters link posted above?

Nice!!

What's the use of mosques when the chinese muslims are being 're-educated" into becoming atheists.

Well least they can do is not further humiliate Muslims by converting their mosques into a bar. Alcohol is haram in Islam, I am sure the communist party workers know that!
 
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As I said, read the article. They have done a full research along with satellite imagery. Its not a new "re-education gulag", rather an addition to the existing facility.



https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/muslims-camps-china/

Are you not able to see/click on the reuters link posted above?



Well least they can do is not further humiliate Muslims by converting their mosques into a bar. Alcohol is haram in Islam, I am sure the communist party workers know that!
They said they'd done a great research along with satellite images when they claimed that Iraq possessed WMD. They are professional liars.
 
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World most racist and anti-muslim people showing fake sympathy for weeghurs:rofl:

  1. Muslims are not a race
  2. Supporting dubious elements in other countries is something they are known for. Just google the list of people awarded Nobel Prize from Asian countries and their backgrounds. You'll always find most of them with shadowy backgrounds
  3. Your Turkish "brothers" also openly support the Uyighur cause; not exactly a 'Western conspiracy' alone.
Fake news created by the west and spreaded by the Indians as always

Dafuq? :woot:

Did you even check the link?

It is Reuters.

Here is a secret: Reuters, CNN, BBC, Al Jazeera etc are not Indian.

Al Jazeera has a problem with anyone who crushes terrorism including us, Russians and the Israelis as well.

They were recently whining on how we were taking out jihadis one after another here.

Don't blame the OP for being a messenger here. He's quoting an third party source.

Whitewashing things away from Pakistanis on this forum and blaming us doesn't really help in a discussion.

And honestly, we actually admire your willingness to get people in line to comply with national law. If anything, you have our support against terrorism.

You should tell Turks, Americans and the usual gang rather than put this on us.
 
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  1. Muslims are not a race
  2. Supporting dubious elements in other countries is something they are known for. Just google the list of people awarded Nobel Prize from Asian countries and their backgrounds. You'll always find most of them with shadowy backgrounds
  3. Your Turkish "brothers" also openly support the Uyighur cause; not exactly a 'Western conspiracy' alone.

Dafuq? :woot:

Did you even check the link?

It is Reuters.

Here is a secret: Reuters, CNN, BBC, Al Jazeera etc are not Indian.

Al Jazeera has a problem with anyone who crushes terrorism including us, Russians and the Israelis as well.

They were recently whining on how we were taking out jihadis one after another here.

Don't blame the OP for being a messenger here. He's quoting an third party source.

Whitewashing things away from Pakistanis on this forum and blaming us doesn't really help in a discussion.

And honestly, we actually admire your willingness to get people in line to comply with national law. If anything, you have our support against terrorism.

You should tell Turks, Americans and the usual gang rather than put this on us.
I said the fake news that created by the west and being spreaded by Indian posters here on this forum. It's not the first time they created fake news against China. barely a week ago they posted on the internet a video showing some people attacking someone on the street, they clamied that is a Chinese family murdering a Pakistani studnet on honor killing, we Chinese never heard of the word honor killing, it's just not thing in our culture, very likely that word is from India. The video turned out to be a family trouble in southern China, no one was really got hurt. but the rumor was spreading like wild fire all over the net.

A couple of month ago, some western media created another very catching video showing a Uyghur bride crying in her wedding marrying a Han Chinese, and they claim that the Chinese government force Uyghur women to marry Han Chinese, so absurd and stupid lie, the only proof they can provide is that the girl cried. Brides cry in almost every Chinese wedding and I personally saw many. The lies have no boundary for them to bash China.
 
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Freakin bullshit.

Using muslim name to create trouble between muslim countries and china.

Uyghurs are chinese citizens let them decide what they want. Or let complaint in united nations.

First of all these american and western F ucks who seem to be very symlathetic to chinese muslims these days should help Kashmiriz who have even went to united nations. I am a kashmiri i know. Help me get back occupied land back from india first im a muslim . hear my voice . im not the only one crying many kashmiriz cry everyday same slogan on both sides of kashmir we want freedom from indian occupation !

So please uyghur and xinjiang muslims arent even calling western countries or muslim countries.

Kashmiriz have been calling all muslim world and western world and china for past 75 years or more.

Kashmiriz were and still are not heard what makes u think fake uyghur crisis will get any help?

Uyghur muslims are chinese and are enjoying highest level of health care facilities and oppertunities not only in xinjiang but all over china and pakistan.

I have 3 friends in my city of muzaffarabad engineers from xinjiang they work here on dams . they say what? Really western people say that? They know xinjiang and muslim state of turkistan is a political issue there but its just politics and nationalism.

No muslim problem there. Its just against seperstism . people bad people want to break china and seperate turkistan . a national entity . nothing to do with islam just turk dna and ethnicity.

Same people want to break pakistan and iran and make a new country called balochistan. A national ethnic entity blood borders of sorts nothing related to islam or opression.

Same people would like to see indian state of asam and eastern india into a new country.

Same people would like iraq and syria further divided into smaller parts . they would also want turkey to break away turkistan.

The list goes on.

Instead of seperstism human beings learned and wise ones say of conmectivity and erasing borders like what happend in usa all states have no border. Like soviet union had no borders . like europrean union.

There should be a central asian union a south asian union and even asian union .

But imstead some bad powerful mischief creators want seperstism instead of connectivity and unions so that they can keep us all divided and weak while they remain united and strong even though they dont share blood or language or ethnicity they still stick together even don't care about nationalities.


I say to all those who want to seperate xinjiang and take uyghur and muslim name to divide china.

I am a pakistani and kashmiri Muslim. Ethnically an Arab from hijaz neither a shia nor a sunni a muslim following religion of islam. And i say To these seperstist and seperatist propaganda people F U C K you All.

China has stood up on its feet , all those injusticies and inequalities and bullying is going to be avenged .

F U C K you Seperatism!! 中国起来了 ! 谁敢 过来啊!

No one can stand against a power that stood against opression . chinese don't like bullies u dare poke the dragon ! Well now the dragon is awake those who dare come forth.
 
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They said they'd done a great research along with satellite images when they claimed that Iraq possessed WMD. They are professional liars.

Have you or have you not gone through the Reuters link? If you are unable to access the article in China(I wouldn't be surprised), then say so.

If you are able to read the article, then rebut the findings one by one. I can't just believe a random communist party member on the internet now can I? If there was free press in China, and if there wasn't restriction of internet usage in Xinjiang we wouldn't be having this discussion. Until then, the proof presented by Reuters seems pretty credible.
 
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Have you or have you not gone through the Reuters link? If you are unable to access the article in China(I wouldn't be surprised), then say so.
I posted so many youtube videos and google news, and you doubt if I can open Reuters links? Where is common sense?

If you are able to read the article, then rebut the findings one by one. I can't just believe a random communist party member on the internet now can I? If there was free press in China, and if there wasn't restriction of internet usage in Xinjiang we wouldn't be having this discussion. Until then, the proof presented by Reuters seems pretty credible.

They made so many lies and it's not my job to debunk them one by one, there are millions of them online, use your common sense please, and in court of law, if you were caught lying in one thing, the whole case will be thrown out of court cause it automatically discredits all your testimony.
 
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Alcohol is haram in Islam, I am sure the communist party workers know that!

That looks like a nice traditional building that's been converted to a hookah bar. The Chinese are smart, why waste a nice building.
 
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  1. Muslims are not a race
  2. Supporting dubious elements in other countries is something they are known for. Just google the list of people awarded Nobel Prize from Asian countries and their backgrounds. You'll always find most of them with shadowy backgrounds
  3. Your Turkish "brothers" also openly support the Uyighur cause; not exactly a 'Western conspiracy' alone.

Dafuq? :woot:

Did you even check the link?

It is Reuters.

Here is a secret: Reuters, CNN, BBC, Al Jazeera etc are not Indian.

Al Jazeera has a problem with anyone who crushes terrorism including us, Russians and the Israelis as well.

They were recently whining on how we were taking out jihadis one after another here.

Don't blame the OP for being a messenger here. He's quoting an third party source.

Whitewashing things away from Pakistanis on this forum and blaming us doesn't really help in a discussion.

And honestly, we actually admire your willingness to get people in line to comply with national law. If anything, you have our support against terrorism.

You should tell Turks, Americans and the usual gang rather than put this on us.
When did I say they were a race?
What the hell are you talking about? Dubious elements? Care to elaborate?
They have their reasons to support them.You see I am against hypocrisy not "who supports who"

You tell me. As far as I am concerned, I couldn't care less about Muslims, and I hope every Islamic separatist movement around the world is crushed the same way the Chinese crushed the Uyghurs.
Why post such article if you don't care?

You should have read the article. The "re-education" program is open for all Muslims, and one can find other Muslim communities as well.

Muslims from other ethnic groups, including Kazakhs, have also been detained.

I remember Chinese guy @haidian was trying to convince me that these re-education camps are nothing but schools, and it is very common to have barbed wire fencing and walls in Chinese schools.

Is this how a school in China is supposed to look like? I wonder what sorta schools need electric fence and watch towers :rofl:

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Have you been here? Do you believe every article on the internet?
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Why aren't these guys in such schools?
 
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  1. Muslims are not a race
  2. Supporting dubious elements in other countries is something they are known for. Just google the list of people awarded Nobel Prize from Asian countries and their backgrounds. You'll always find most of them with shadowy backgrounds
  3. Your Turkish "brothers" also openly support the Uyighur cause; not exactly a 'Western conspiracy' alone.

Dafuq? :woot:

Did you even check the link?

It is Reuters.

Here is a secret: Reuters, CNN, BBC, Al Jazeera etc are not Indian.

Al Jazeera has a problem with anyone who crushes terrorism including us, Russians and the Israelis as well.

They were recently whining on how we were taking out jihadis one after another here.

Don't blame the OP for being a messenger here. He's quoting an third party source.

Whitewashing things away from Pakistanis on this forum and blaming us doesn't really help in a discussion.

And honestly, we actually admire your willingness to get people in line to comply with national law. If anything, you have our support against terrorism.

You should tell Turks, Americans and the usual gang rather than put this on us.

Why are the Chinese so scared of admitting to this? After all the whole world wants to do it too.
 
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The person is actually praising china by suggesting other countries to follow the same procedure..
Can't you see the Poll ?
Why don't you have a conversation about Indian pariahs?
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When did I say they were a race?

When you say someone is 'racist' with respect to Muslims, you imply that Muslims are a race.

Hence racist..?

What the hell are you talking about? Dubious elements? Care to elaborate?

I was referring to the usual NATO gang who have a tendency to reward traitors in other countries to use them as 'soft influence' and create political trouble inside other countries.
 
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