Tracking and Counter tracking

[SvenSvensonov]

Yes, I have.

Outside the military, right? If so can you offer a school, I'm interested in gaining a more practical knowledge of such activities and taking a few courses. Can't image the JMSDF teaches man tracking to sailors... unless said sailors are special forces. Tracking is taught in the USN, but only for sub chases or counter sub operations, otherwise this is typically reserved for US special forces or snipers... which the navy has as well, though they are often limited to port duties or anti-shark operations.

 

[Aepsilons]

Outside the military, right? If so can you offer a school, I'm interested in gaining a more practical knowledge of such activities and taking a few courses. Can't image the JMSDF teaches man tracking to sailors... unless said sailors are special forces. Tracking is taught in the USN, but only for sub chases or counter sub operations, otherwise this is typically reserved for US special forces or snipers... which the navy has as well, though they are often limited to port duties or anti-shark operations.

I've taken tracking classes in Japan as well as here in the 'states. The one where I went to was Tom Brown's Tracking School in Asbury, NJ:

Here's the contact info if you're interested:

Phone: (908) 479-4681, trackerschool.com

 

[Selous]

Simple there are no forests left in Punjab,so no kinda hunting tracking,khojees were used by police to track thieves but you know after introduction and ease access to firearms art of theft is dead and tracking is dead also in this field,also my grandfather is very good at this because he did both manhunt and hunting,i tried to learn but as you told it needs patience, but it also needs passion so i was not enough to learn this wonderful art.

Is there any effort being made to reintroduce forests ?

 

[SvenSvensonov]

I've taken tracking classes in Japan as well as here in the 'states. The one where I went to was Tom Brown's Tracking School in Asbury, NJ:

Here's the contact info if you're interested:

Phone: (908) 479-4681, trackerschool.com

Thanks!!!!! I have to be honest though, my interest is more in tracking animals than humans. I have 2.5 acres of land (the benefits of living in Virginia, it's not the most densely populated state... only 400k for the property!), fenced, but have often heard animals come through, my dog (one of these Native American Indian Dogs - Native Sky Kennel) lets me know as well. I've seen deer, and had a garbage can toppled by a raccoon, but I've been told by my neighbors that bears, large cats and foxes stalk my neighborhood too. Man tracking offers many of the same principles that are used to track animals... very interested to learn more!!!

 

[Selous]

Outside the military, right? If so can you offer a school, I'm interested in gaining a more practical knowledge of such activities and taking a few courses. Can't image the JMSDF teaches man tracking to sailors... unless said sailors are special forces. Tracking is taught in the USN, but only for sub chases or counter sub operations, otherwise this is typically reserved for US special forces or snipers... which the navy has as well, though they are often limited to port duties or anti-shark operations.

Well if you want to come to South Africa there are certain organizations that will teach you to track and man hunt (most prominent example being Protrack Protection Services and Training Programme - Protrack Anti-Poaching Unit - Hoedspruit - Limpopo Province - South Africa | HOME ) for free along with bushcraft, survival and intel gathering provided you work for them in their anti poaching activities...I have heard that they see quite a bit of action.

 

[Levina]

I also want to say that there are times where its best to use tactical knives to silence targets. A deep cut into the jugular can easily dispatch even the greatest opponent.

Without question! But tracking and placing said knife into an enemy is far beyond anything I have practical experience with

Tactical knives....reminds me of this video.

Operation phantom fury: Gerber Mark II knife.

Warrior POV: Vicious Hand-to-Hand Combat in Fallujah : American Heroes Channel


And thanks for the links Sven

 

[Aepsilons]

Thanks!!!!! I have to be honest though, my interest is more in tracking animals than humans. I have 2.5 acres of land (the benefits of living in Virginia, it's not the most densely populated state... only 400k for the property!), fenced, but have often heard animals come through, my dog (one of these Native American Indian Dogs - Native Sky Kennel) lets me know as well. I've seen deer, and had a garbage can toppled by a raccoon, but I've been told by my neighbors that bears, large cats and foxes stalk my neighborhood too. Man tracking offers many of the same principles that are used to track animals... very interested to learn more!!!

The tracking program at Tom Brown's School is 6 days long, and it teaches you not only how to track, but proper scouting techniques, laying traps, learning how to survive out in the cold by yourself, and no communication after the trainer leaves the site. You can avail if knowing how to take down through bow, through rifle, and even hand to hand combat. I preferred bow hunting because its quieter, cleaner.

Its $700 for 6 days. Bring protein bars, lol.

 

[Selous]

Without question! But tracking and placing said knife into an enemy is far beyond anything I have practical experience with. Our drones, our missiles, our war-fighters track enemies using electronic signals, and our enemies attempt to track us, I can help with this. But offering advise on stalking an enemy silently, while maintaining radio-dark protocols... forget about it! I can't do anything of the sort.

Our enemies know we can track their comms... how couldn't they its been in the news with the NSA leaks, but fortunately for us, there is more then one way to gather electronic intelligence. Your phone doesn't even need to be on for us to track it. Scary isn't it?

Do you have experience with man tracking?

Also, for those in the US that are interested, there are tracking schools.
Courses and Certifications - National Association For Search And Rescue

And for additional, and in-depth information on tracking I would recommend these link:
COMBAT TRACKING (MANTRACKING)

Sign Cutting and Tracking Methods Employed by the US Border Patrol : ITS Tactical

@Selous @levina you guys might like these.

The Selous Scouts page is quite good but many books written by ex scouts and Rhodesian infantrymen are more comprehensive...I have had the good fortune of meeting an ex 32 battalion (SADF) member and those guys were mind blowingly good as well.

 

[Aepsilons]

Tactical knives....reminds me of this video.

Operation phantom fury: Gerber Mark II knife.

Warrior POV: Vicious Hand-to-Hand Combat in Fallujah : American Heroes Channel


And thanks for the links Sven

I use a high carbon stainless steel tactical knife:

but I also carry a Japanese tactical knife , as in any combat scenario, its always good to carry a backup , and tertiary backup.

 

[SvenSvensonov]

The tracking program at Tom Brown's School is 6 days long, and it teaches you not only how to track, but proper scouting techniques, laying traps, learning how to survive out in the cold by yourself, and no communication after the trainer leaves the site. You can avail if knowing how to take down through bow, through rifle, and even hand to hand combat. I preferred bow hunting because its quieter, cleaner.

Its $700 for 6 days. Bring protein bars, lol.

Target archery is something I do have experience with, even in competitions, though I refuse anything other then a re-curve bow (I own a 55 pound re-curve), but hunting has always sat wrong with me. I'm very adverse to harming animals. Humans? No problem so long as they deserve it based on my rationality, but animals? Never. I'd rather eat berries and shrubbery then kill and eat an animal.

I can't mention shrubbery without:

 

[Aepsilons]

Target archery is something I do have experience with, even in competitions, though I refuse anything other then a re-curve bow (I own a 55 pound re-curve), but hunting has always sat wrong with me. I'm very adverse to harming animals. Humans? No problem so long as they deserve it based on my rationality, but animals? Never. I'd rather eat berries and shrubbery then kill and eat an animal.

I can't mention shrubbery without:
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ha ha ha ha!!!

 

[Sine Nomine]

Is there any effort being made to reintroduce forests ?

Nothing being done,but i have a SAS book on this topic which throws some light on that also books on bush craft helps to in this art.you should learn it from South Africa(as you mentioned)it's a wonderful art but no one can match tribal man hunters of Pakistan.

 

[Levina]

I use a high carbon stainless steel tactical knife:

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That should be bayonet knife isnt it? coz Gerber has serrations on both the sides and is not on sale for being too ferrocious. I guess only the seals use it.

I also like Eickhorn Advanced Combat Knife, NATO guys use this.
Infact I had created a thread on tactical knives some time back
Deadliest Combat Knives / Daggers

but I also carry a Japanese tactical knife , as in any combat scenario, its always good to carry a backup , and tertiary backup.

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That looks awesome but isnt it a bit too long at 17"?? and its full length is about 23", I'm sure you dont carry it with you unless you're really expecting a storm to brew up.
I searched for the inscription and came to know it means calm "before the storm". Now that kinda sends a chill down my spine.
And the loved the hand sewn leather sheath. <3

@LeveragedBuyout I'm sorry,I always thought you were a professional, must be your mannerisms on the forum that gave me such impression.

 

[SvenSvensonov]

That should be bayonet knife isnt it? coz Gerber has serrations on both the sides and is not on sale for being too ferrocious. I guess only the seals use it.

I also like Eickhorn Advanced Combat Knife, NATO guys use this.
Infact I had created a thread on tactical knives some time back
Deadliest Combat Knives / Daggers

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That looks awesome but isnt it a bit too long at 17"?? and its full length is about 23", I'm sure you dont carry it with you unless you're really expecting a storm to brew up.
I searched for the inscription and came to know it means calm "before the storm". Now that kinda sends a chill down my spine.
And the loved the hand sewn leather sheath. <3.

Gerber makes a nice knife, I don't have one, but they are sleek, balanced and very dangerous. The only combat/survival knife I have is the trusty 184... though mine has a custom handle with a weighted pommel.

I was issues a Strider SMF while in the Navy, which is typically issues to the USMC, but those of us in electronics had one to cut plastic and rubber sheaths, as well as dead wires.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

I was watching the Discovery series Lone Target/Manhunt and was reminded about my own tracking experiences in the veld in South Africa

Some general rules to tracking:

Hmmm... I always thought tracking was like in the movies, you walk into the forest, when coming to a fork in the path and take a right turn. and follow a river if you can.