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In China-U.S. Trade War, Trump Would Have Weapons

SHANGHAI — As a candidate, Donald J. Trump aimed some of his most blistering words at China, declaring that “we already have a trade war” and suggesting ominously that “we have the power over China, economic power.”

As president of the United States, Mr. Trump can use trade — a cornerstone of his populist rise — as a weapon, with the potential to drastically reshape the world’s two largest economies, as well as the companies, industries and workers who depend on their hundreds of billions of dollars in closely linked goods. But neither side may win.

Cutting off trade will not bring back the bulk of American manufacturing jobs lost to China in previous decades as it became the world’s factory floor. Already, some industries that left the United States years ago, such as garment making and some light manufacturing, are now leaving China for even cheaper places. An aggressive stance with China also risks antagonizing an authoritarian government with its own brand of economic nationalism.

Yet the unsettling reality for Beijing is that Mr. Trump has a variety of ways to get back at China for trade practices that he, his supporters or people in the affected industries view as unfair. China sells a large array of goods to the United States that he can aim at for higher tariffs.

The opportunities for China to retaliate would be more limited. In the most basic terms, China buys less from the United States.

But China could make some strategic strikes at targets like Boeing, American automakers and American farmers. Beijing exerts tight control over China’s airlines, for example, and sometimes steers contracts to Airbus, Boeing’s European rival, when officials feel that Washington is uncooperative.

“Boeing complains, ‘We have been pretty good friends with China. Why are we always a target?’” said He Weiwen, a former Chinese commerce ministry official who is now the co-director of the China-U.S.-E.U. Study Center at the influential China Association of International Trade in Beijing.

Or China could wreak havoc on the vast yet delicate supply chain behind a wide range of products like iPhones and auto parts. Six years ago, Chinese restrictions on exports of obscure yet vital minerals led to a global outcry by manufacturers.

Early indications are that trade could take a more prominent place on the White House’s China agenda, which under President Obama was dominated by Beijing’s territorial claims in East Asia and its influence over North Korea.

In a strong signal, Mr. Trump has turned to Dan DiMicco, a longtime steel executive and trade critic, to oversee trade issues during his administration’s transition. Mr. DiMicco writes a personal blog, liberally sprinkled with exclamation points, that blames America’s industrial decline on cheating by trade partners, particularly China.

“Hillary Clinton has claimed Trump’s trade policies will start a ‘Trade War’ but what she fails to recognize is we are already in one,” he wrote on his blog last summer. “Trump clearly sees it and he will work to put an end to China’s ‘Mercantilist Trade War’! A war it has been waging against us for nearly 2 decades!”

China over the last two days has emphasized that a healthy relationship would benefit both sides. On Thursday, Lu Kang, a spokesman for China’s Foreign Ministry, said, “It is in the common interests of both countries to develop a long-term, stable and prosperous trading relationship, and any American politician would take a policy in the interest of his country and the American people.”

Mr. Trump’s views veer widely from the free-trade positions of the Republican Party in recent years and signal a return to the more hawkish positions of the Reagan administration, which repeatedly went after Japan on trade issues. Since President Ronald Reagan, Republican and Democratic administrations have been reluctant to confront countries that may be subsidizing or dumping exports, either because the evidence is unclear or because of a risk of damaging diplomatic or strategic relations.

“This is the kind of stuff you learn in law school, and in the early days of your law career,” said Alan H. Price, a longtime lawyer for the American steel and aluminum industries at Wiley Rein.

When used, the measures were sometimes deemed ineffective.

In one rare example, President Obama used his powers to impose tariffs of up to 35 percent on imports of Chinese tires soon after he took office. The tariffs prompted China to impose steep tariffs on American chicken meat and automotive products. Both countries complained to the World Trade Organization, which mostly sided with the United States.

The case resulted in the United States producing more tires, but imports from other countries rose even faster. And the Obama administration later became more cautious about challenging China with trade restrictions.

Any trade actions by Mr. Trump would face limits.

This year, he mentioned imposing a tariff of 45 percent on all imports from China. But he later avoided specifics — and he has limited power to do so anyway. The law allows him to impose tariffs of no more than 15 percent, and for as long as 150 days, on all imports, unless a national emergency is declared. Other laws allow him to impose tariffs on targeted goods.

Should Mr. Trump want to signal an aggressive stance quickly, he could move against imports of steel and aluminum from China. The Obama administration has been preparing to file a World Trade Organization case against China over claims that it subsidized aluminum exports. And the United States, Japan and the European Union already complain that Chinese government subsidies have produced a bloated domestic steel industry that they say dumps millions of tons of excess goods on world markets each year.

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Donald J. Trump at a campaign event last week in Hershey, Pa. He has said, “We have the power over China, economic power.” CreditDamon Winter/The New York Times
China is more vulnerable given the sheer amount of stuff it sells to America. For more than a decade, China has consistently exported about $4 worth of goods to the United States for each $1 of goods that it imports. Exports to the United States represent about 4 percent of the Chinese economy; American exports to China are only about two-thirds of 1 percent of the United States economy.

“We don’t have many things in the toolbox for retaliation, because we export more than we import,” said Mr. He, the former Chinese commerce ministry official.

Still, China could inflict pain on sensitive areas that provide American jobs, like Boeing’s jetliners.

Boeing declined to comment except to say, “We congratulate President-elect Trump and newly elected members of Congress and look forward to working with them to make sure we continue to grow the global economy and protect our people.”

General Motors and Ford Motor consider China a big contributor to sales. They mostly manufacture in China to supply the domestic market. But much of the design and engineering work is still done in the United States. China could hurt the automakers by adopting domestic policies that help their big European rivals, notably Volkswagen and Mercedes-Benz.

Other American companies may be less opposed to trade limits than in the past. Some American companies have been struggling to sell in China. Beijing has steered contracts to Chinese telecommunications companies after Edward Snowden’s revelations about American intelligence gathering in China. And Chinese state-owned enterprises have shifted much of their investment banking business from Wall Street to homegrown rivals.

American farmers have welcomed Chinese purchases, but it is unclear how badly they could be hurt by any trade action. Chicken meat, soybeans, corn and other foodstuffs are commodities traded in world markets, and farmers are often able to sell elsewhere.

Chinese goods have long helped keep prices down for Americans. But Chinese exports play a shrinking role in holding down prices as labor costs rise in China and as rivals like Indonesia, Vietnam and India expand manufacturing.

China’s biggest potential weapon is to disrupt the supply chains of multinationals by halting exports of crucial materials or components. But that could damage China’s reputation as a reliable supplier.

“I don’t think we will go that far at the moment, because there is a lot of room to negotiate,” Mr. He said. “If we are forced too much, nothing can be excluded.”

In China-U.S. Trade War, Trump Would Have Weapons

SHANGHAI — As a candidate, Donald J. Trump aimed some of his most blistering words at China, declaring that “we already have a trade war” and suggesting ominously that “we have the power over China, economic power.”

As president of the United States, Mr. Trump can use trade — a cornerstone of his populist rise — as a weapon, with the potential to drastically reshape the world’s two largest economies, as well as the companies, industries and workers who depend on their hundreds of billions of dollars in closely linked goods. But neither side may win.

Cutting off trade will not bring back the bulk of American manufacturing jobs lost to China in previous decades as it became the world’s factory floor. Already, some industries that left the United States years ago, such as garment making and some light manufacturing, are now leaving China for even cheaper places. An aggressive stance with China also risks antagonizing an authoritarian government with its own brand of economic nationalism.

Yet the unsettling reality for Beijing is that Mr. Trump has a variety of ways to get back at China for trade practices that he, his supporters or people in the affected industries view as unfair. China sells a large array of goods to the United States that he can aim at for higher tariffs.

The opportunities for China to retaliate would be more limited. In the most basic terms, China buys less from the United States.

But China could make some strategic strikes at targets like Boeing, American automakers and American farmers. Beijing exerts tight control over China’s airlines, for example, and sometimes steers contracts to Airbus, Boeing’s European rival, when officials feel that Washington is uncooperative.

“Boeing complains, ‘We have been pretty good friends with China. Why are we always a target?’” said He Weiwen, a former Chinese commerce ministry official who is now the co-director of the China-U.S.-E.U. Study Center at the influential China Association of International Trade in Beijing.

Or China could wreak havoc on the vast yet delicate supply chain behind a wide range of products like iPhones and auto parts. Six years ago, Chinese restrictions on exports of obscure yet vital minerals led to a global outcry by manufacturers.

Early indications are that trade could take a more prominent place on the White House’s China agenda, which under President Obama was dominated by Beijing’s territorial claims in East Asia and its influence over North Korea.

In a strong signal, Mr. Trump has turned to Dan DiMicco, a longtime steel executive and trade critic, to oversee trade issues during his administration’s transition. Mr. DiMicco writes a personal blog, liberally sprinkled with exclamation points, that blames America’s industrial decline on cheating by trade partners, particularly China.

“Hillary Clinton has claimed Trump’s trade policies will start a ‘Trade War’ but what she fails to recognize is we are already in one,” he wrote on his blog last summer. “Trump clearly sees it and he will work to put an end to China’s ‘Mercantilist Trade War’! A war it has been waging against us for nearly 2 decades!”

China over the last two days has emphasized that a healthy relationship would benefit both sides. On Thursday, Lu Kang, a spokesman for China’s Foreign Ministry, said, “It is in the common interests of both countries to develop a long-term, stable and prosperous trading relationship, and any American politician would take a policy in the interest of his country and the American people.”

Mr. Trump’s views veer widely from the free-trade positions of the Republican Party in recent years and signal a return to the more hawkish positions of the Reagan administration, which repeatedly went after Japan on trade issues. Since President Ronald Reagan, Republican and Democratic administrations have been reluctant to confront countries that may be subsidizing or dumping exports, either because the evidence is unclear or because of a risk of damaging diplomatic or strategic relations.

“This is the kind of stuff you learn in law school, and in the early days of your law career,” said Alan H. Price, a longtime lawyer for the American steel and aluminum industries at Wiley Rein.

When used, the measures were sometimes deemed ineffective.

In one rare example, President Obama used his powers to impose tariffs of up to 35 percent on imports of Chinese tires soon after he took office. The tariffs prompted China to impose steep tariffs on American chicken meat and automotive products. Both countries complained to the World Trade Organization, which mostly sided with the United States.

The case resulted in the United States producing more tires, but imports from other countries rose even faster. And the Obama administration later became more cautious about challenging China with trade restrictions.

Any trade actions by Mr. Trump would face limits.

This year, he mentioned imposing a tariff of 45 percent on all imports from China. But he later avoided specifics — and he has limited power to do so anyway. The law allows him to impose tariffs of no more than 15 percent, and for as long as 150 days, on all imports, unless a national emergency is declared. Other laws allow him to impose tariffs on targeted goods.

Should Mr. Trump want to signal an aggressive stance quickly, he could move against imports of steel and aluminum from China. The Obama administration has been preparing to file a World Trade Organization case against China over claims that it subsidized aluminum exports. And the United States, Japan and the European Union already complain that Chinese government subsidies have produced a bloated domestic steel industry that they say dumps millions of tons of excess goods on world markets each year.

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Donald J. Trump at a campaign event last week in Hershey, Pa. He has said, “We have the power over China, economic power.” CreditDamon Winter/The New York Times
China is more vulnerable given the sheer amount of stuff it sells to America. For more than a decade, China has consistently exported about $4 worth of goods to the United States for each $1 of goods that it imports. Exports to the United States represent about 4 percent of the Chinese economy; American exports to China are only about two-thirds of 1 percent of the United States economy.

“We don’t have many things in the toolbox for retaliation, because we export more than we import,” said Mr. He, the former Chinese commerce ministry official.

Still, China could inflict pain on sensitive areas that provide American jobs, like Boeing’s jetliners.

Boeing declined to comment except to say, “We congratulate President-elect Trump and newly elected members of Congress and look forward to working with them to make sure we continue to grow the global economy and protect our people.”

General Motors and Ford Motor consider China a big contributor to sales. They mostly manufacture in China to supply the domestic market. But much of the design and engineering work is still done in the United States. China could hurt the automakers by adopting domestic policies that help their big European rivals, notably Volkswagen and Mercedes-Benz.

Other American companies may be less opposed to trade limits than in the past. Some American companies have been struggling to sell in China. Beijing has steered contracts to Chinese telecommunications companies after Edward Snowden’s revelations about American intelligence gathering in China. And Chinese state-owned enterprises have shifted much of their investment banking business from Wall Street to homegrown rivals.

American farmers have welcomed Chinese purchases, but it is unclear how badly they could be hurt by any trade action. Chicken meat, soybeans, corn and other foodstuffs are commodities traded in world markets, and farmers are often able to sell elsewhere.

Chinese goods have long helped keep prices down for Americans. But Chinese exports play a shrinking role in holding down prices as labor costs rise in China and as rivals like Indonesia, Vietnam and India expand manufacturing.

China’s biggest potential weapon is to disrupt the supply chains of multinationals by halting exports of crucial materials or components. But that could damage China’s reputation as a reliable supplier.

“I don’t think we will go that far at the moment, because there is a lot of room to negotiate,” Mr. He said. “If we are forced too much, nothing can be excluded.”

We have no doubts that the US could enact any trade measures it want- and those measures would affect anyone it is targetted at drastically.

The only thing is western articles often neglect one crucial factor:

Retaliation
 
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Indian logic.

Then China would levy a 15% tax on General Motors and make them move to China.

But there's a difference. US growth is picking up, Chinese growth is slowing down.

So good luck reducing taxes.
 
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Retaliation

China would likely take countermeasures against Trump’s hard-line trade policy
By Hu Weijia Source: Global Times
Published: 2016/11/11 0:08:39


China should stand ready to fight back if Donald Trump rolls out measures against China after he is sworn in as US president.

Strategic suspicions have long been viewed as the biggest hurdle between the two global powers, but in the wake of the US election Sino-US relations will probably shift. Trump is likely to take a more hard-line stance in pressuring China to make concessions in areas such as foreign trade and investment, causing economic relations - which have been described as the stabilizer for bilateral ties - to become a major point of disagreement between the two countries.

Trump regularly railed against China during the campaign, blaming the country for US job losses and proposing a 45 percent tariffs on Chinese imports. Although campaign rhetoric is not necessarily consistent with policy after a candidate assumes office, China should be ready for any possible scenario when it comes to its bilateral ties with the US, including a trade war.

Trump's stance on anti-globalization is perhaps the clearest indicator of what his economic policies will be. He is likely to set up trade barriers for Chinese imports, which will make companies, like those in the steel sector, victims of trade investigations and tariff increases.

China can use the WTO's rules to protect its interests. However, if Washington takes the lead in breaking prevailing rules and even provokes a trade war, China will not hesitate to take countermeasures and establish trade barriers for American imports. China is now a vital overseas market for American firms like Apple Inc, and in 2015 China's imports of goods from the US reaching $149 billion, based on Chinese customs data. There is no doubt that the American economy would suffer a severe blow if China were in turn to impose a 45 percent tariff on US-made goods.

"Isolating or penalizing China will not serve America's interests," James Zimmerman, chairman of The American Chamber of Commerce in China, said in a statement on Wednesday. Additionally, Chinese firms doing business in the US currently add 80,000 jobs to the American workforce. This should also be taken into consideration if Trump plans to persuade American enterprises in China to return to the US which would take jobs away from China.

Without a doubt, China has plenty of chips with which to bargain with the US. What Beijing needs to learn is how to deal with a political newcomer if the president-elect deviates from the usual path of trade relations. China should also develop contingency plans to prepare for the worst, if the US does provoke a trade war. In the meantime, Beijing is likely to seek a dialogue with Trump to ensure a smooth transition in Sino-US ties.
 
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China would likely take countermeasures against Trump’s hard-line trade policy
By Hu Weijia Source: Global Times
Published: 2016/11/11 0:08:39


China should stand ready to fight back if Donald Trump rolls out measures against China after he is sworn in as US president.

Strategic suspicions have long been viewed as the biggest hurdle between the two global powers, but in the wake of the US election Sino-US relations will probably shift. Trump is likely to take a more hard-line stance in pressuring China to make concessions in areas such as foreign trade and investment, causing economic relations - which have been described as the stabilizer for bilateral ties - to become a major point of disagreement between the two countries.

Trump regularly railed against China during the campaign, blaming the country for US job losses and proposing a 45 percent tariffs on Chinese imports. Although campaign rhetoric is not necessarily consistent with policy after a candidate assumes office, China should be ready for any possible scenario when it comes to its bilateral ties with the US, including a trade war.

Trump's stance on anti-globalization is perhaps the clearest indicator of what his economic policies will be. He is likely to set up trade barriers for Chinese imports, which will make companies, like those in the steel sector, victims of trade investigations and tariff increases.

China can use the WTO's rules to protect its interests. However, if Washington takes the lead in breaking prevailing rules and even provokes a trade war, China will not hesitate to take countermeasures and establish trade barriers for American imports. China is now a vital overseas market for American firms like Apple Inc, and in 2015 China's imports of goods from the US reaching $149 billion, based on Chinese customs data. There is no doubt that the American economy would suffer a severe blow if China were in turn to impose a 45 percent tariff on US-made goods.

"Isolating or penalizing China will not serve America's interests," James Zimmerman, chairman of The American Chamber of Commerce in China, said in a statement on Wednesday. Additionally, Chinese firms doing business in the US currently add 80,000 jobs to the American workforce. This should also be taken into consideration if Trump plans to persuade American enterprises in China to return to the US which would take jobs away from China.

Without a doubt, China has plenty of chips with which to bargain with the US. What Beijing needs to learn is how to deal with a political newcomer if the president-elect deviates from the usual path of trade relations. China should also develop contingency plans to prepare for the worst, if the US does provoke a trade war. In the meantime, Beijing is likely to seek a dialogue with Trump to ensure a smooth transition in Sino-US ties.

Retaliation won't work. Can't you see the problem?
 
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Vietnam To Turn Its Back On Massive Pacific Rim Trade Pact After Trump Victory

Ralph Jennings , CONTRIBUTOR
I cover under-reported stories from Taiwan and Asia.

Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own.


The Trans Pacific Partnership, a U.S.-led trade pact encompassing 40% of the world economy, isn’t “confirmed dead,” to borrow language from an equity research firm in Hanoi. But unless it passes the U.S. Congress before Donald Trump takes office in January, the tariff-cutting agreement is just taking up space in some ICU before undertakers arrive. Vietnam knows the trade deal is unlikely to take shape despite signatures by 12 member nations in February. Trump doesn’t like it and his Republican Party controls Congress.

So Vietnamese leaders have started looking instead toward a series of two-way free-trade deals to sustain their fast-growing $193.6 billion economy that depends heavily on exports.

“The sad news for Vietnam is that trade liberalization is unlikely to be high on the agenda, whatever the new [U.S.] president’s cabinet and policy implementation will be,” French investment bank Natixis said in a statement Thursday. “And thus, Vietnam will have to mourn the death of the highly-anticipated Trans Pacific Partnership.”

The deal known usually as TPP would have raised the Vietnamese GDP by 11%, estimates Louie Nguyen, editor and founder of the news website VietnamAdvisors. Multinationals would move more factories into Vietnam if the pact took effect, he adds. And increasingly wealthy and adventurous consumers in Vietnam may also hold onto more of their money as 89% of the public supports TPP and its “collapse of TPP could take the wind out of the sail of Vietnamese consumers,” Nguyen says. A lot of the spending power comes from creation of jobs that follow expansion of factories, which export stuff from coffee to smartphones.

Yet officials in Hanoi probably won’t hang out too long at the funeral.

Even when polls tipped Trump to lose the U.S. election, Vietnam was hedging bets about the TPP in case the U.S. Congress missed its February 2018 deadline to ratify the deal under whatever president. The TPP effectively requires U.S. ratification to reach 85% of the trade bloc’s combined GDP, a rule for final implementation. A steering committee headed by the Vietnamese deputy prime minister decided in August instead of pushing for ratification in late 2016 to keep monitoring what other countries do with the deal. Vietnam’s next chance to ratify it would be early next year.

The Southeast Asian country has meanwhile signed and implemented a raft of two-way free trade agreements that could offset losses to exports from lack of a TPP. Among the confirmed trading partners are Australia, Chile, China, India, Japan, New Zealand, South Korea and the European Union. Vietnam’s trade negotiators are likely to keep channeling their efforts into bilateral deals rather than the Pacific Rim bloc. And those ties “are enough for an economy with nominal GDP of roughly $200 billion to capture growth opportunities in the years to come,” Hanoi-based equity market research firm SSI Research said in a note Thursday.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphje...-massive-pacific-rim-trade-pact/#5ac8dc03640e
 
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If Vietnam is the biggest winner of the birth of TPP, then who will be the largest loser to the death of TPP?

Why Trump has critized TPP and he will dismishes it ?

Japan: Lower house approves TPP
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The Yomiuri Shimbun

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, right, claps after the Trans-Pacific Partnership-related legislation was approved on Thursday.

9:41 pm, November 10, 2016

Jiji PressTOKYO (Jiji Press) — The House of Representatives on Thursday passed a proposal to ratify the Trans-Pacific Partnership free trade agreement and approved related legislation.

The TPP bills cleared the lower house with support mainly from the ruling Liberal Democratic Party and its coalition partner, Komeito, as well as the opposition Nippon Ishin no Kai. The bills were sent to the House of Councillors, the upper chamber, for further discussions.

The passage came after the lower house voted down a no-confidence motion against Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries Minister Yuji Yamamoto, who was accused of gaffes regarding the handling of the TPP legislation.

The motion was jointly submitted by the Democratic Party and three other opposition parties and dismissed by a majority vote chiefly from the ruling camp.



Aiming to have the TPP bills enacted during the current Diet session, the government of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and his ruling bloc are considering extending the session, which is currently slated to end on Nov. 30, sources familiar with the situation said.

Options under consideration include extending the Diet session until around Dec. 10. Based on a constitutional provision, the TPP ratification proposal will be automatically enacted on Dec. 9 even if the upper house fails to vote on it.

Japan, the United States and 10 other countries signed the TPP in February. It will take effect once at least six of the 12 countries that account for 85 percent or more of their combined gross domestic product complete their domestic ratification procedures.

The Abe government regards the TPP as a pillar of its growth strategy. But the outlook for the trade deal going into effect is dimming as U.S. President-elect Donald Trump opposes the pact.

At a press conference, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga said the administration of U.S. President Barack Obama is working hard to win congressional approval of the TPP by the end of this year.

All 12 countries will proceed with their respective domestic ratification procedures, Suga said.

In the no-confidence motion, the opposition parties criticized Yamamoto for repeatedly making gaffes, including a comment last month that referred to the possibility of the ruling camp railroading the TPP legislation through the Diet.

At an LDP lawmaker’s party held earlier this month, Yamamoto also said he was nearly fired after telling a joke about the possibility of railroading the TPP ratification proposal. The LDP and the DP once agreed to put the TPP legislation to a vote last Friday, but the agreement was derailed by the comment.

The no-confidence motion said Yamamoto should be held responsible for his repeated abusive remarks and should not continue to work as agriculture minister.

Diet affairs chiefs of the four opposition parties agreed Thursday morning to oppose putting the TPP legislation to a vote following Trump’s win in the U.S. presidential election.

At a press conference, Kazunori Yamanoi, the DP’s Diet affairs chief, said Trump’s victory makes the TPP’s effectuation even more difficult. “It will be hard to win public support for railroading the TPP legislation under such circumstances.”
 
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Why Trump has critize TPP ?
I'm not Trump, so I can not give you a precise answer. What I could do is only guess.

Maybe he thinks TPP is far from enough to maximize the interests of Vietnam, so he wants to design a new program to convert Vietnam to a developed country in just one year time?
 
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This TPP monster was clearly aimed at China. China must be glad to see that Obama's TPP legacy is burning to the ground.

This round? I believe we Chinese have always got the last laugh against Japan, US, Vietnam and PH. You guys have been defeated over and over again. Abe under Obama's order to buy Diaoyu have gained some chips like a bit more militarization and removal of article 9 but Abe was also forced to crawl on his knees begging China for economic restoration and had to acknowledge the fact that the island was disputed. Obama-Clinton wanted to contain China with TPP and forcing Japan, PH holding military drills together and using the fake international court totally backfired. US chickened after seeing China's display of muscle, Abe hammering China should respect the verdict was ignored by all the countries, PH's new president told Obama to f*ck off. TPP now officially dead, so much for you Viet clowns cheering for Obama's economic plan containing China :rofl:. And with China's land reclamation in SCS and militarization it is we who has the total victory over US,JP,PH,VN. Now PH and Malaysia wants nothing more than closer economic cooperation with China. Abe trying to convince Duterte to mend ties with US and play the China pivot game didn't go well. Now that Trump is president he will dump Obama-Clinton's China pivot, burn that piece of crap called TPP document, make a new foreign policy with Putin and Xi. Even South Korea's Park is in deep trouble, we can expect its new leader handling the THAAD sensitive issue more appropriately so that China and Russia will be more happy if Trump wishes to restore ties with both Putin and Xi.

Get used to it, Vietnam shall always remain in our shadow as the loser. Luckily VCP is in power and it will always becareful not to make the big boss angry. It sure sucks being humiliated by the big boss and the so called leader of ASEAN who frequently destroy your fishermen's boats :rofl:

Right on the money. China's victory all the way.
 
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I'm not Trump, so I can not give you a precise answer. What I could do is only guess.

Maybe he thinks TPP is far from enough to maximize the interests of Vietnam, so he wants to design a new program to convert Vietnam to a developed country in just one year time?

Your guess is not precise too.
 
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China would likely take countermeasures against Trump’s hard-line trade policy
By Hu Weijia Source: Global Times
Published: 2016/11/11 0:08:39


China should stand ready to fight back if Donald Trump rolls out measures against China after he is sworn in as US president.

Strategic suspicions have long been viewed as the biggest hurdle between the two global powers, but in the wake of the US election Sino-US relations will probably shift. Trump is likely to take a more hard-line stance in pressuring China to make concessions in areas such as foreign trade and investment, causing economic relations - which have been described as the stabilizer for bilateral ties - to become a major point of disagreement between the two countries.

Trump regularly railed against China during the campaign, blaming the country for US job losses and proposing a 45 percent tariffs on Chinese imports. Although campaign rhetoric is not necessarily consistent with policy after a candidate assumes office, China should be ready for any possible scenario when it comes to its bilateral ties with the US, including a trade war.

Trump's stance on anti-globalization is perhaps the clearest indicator of what his economic policies will be. He is likely to set up trade barriers for Chinese imports, which will make companies, like those in the steel sector, victims of trade investigations and tariff increases.

China can use the WTO's rules to protect its interests. However, if Washington takes the lead in breaking prevailing rules and even provokes a trade war, China will not hesitate to take countermeasures and establish trade barriers for American imports. China is now a vital overseas market for American firms like Apple Inc, and in 2015 China's imports of goods from the US reaching $149 billion, based on Chinese customs data. There is no doubt that the American economy would suffer a severe blow if China were in turn to impose a 45 percent tariff on US-made goods.

"Isolating or penalizing China will not serve America's interests," James Zimmerman, chairman of The American Chamber of Commerce in China, said in a statement on Wednesday. Additionally, Chinese firms doing business in the US currently add 80,000 jobs to the American workforce. This should also be taken into consideration if Trump plans to persuade American enterprises in China to return to the US which would take jobs away from China.

Without a doubt, China has plenty of chips with which to bargain with the US. What Beijing needs to learn is how to deal with a political newcomer if the president-elect deviates from the usual path of trade relations. China should also develop contingency plans to prepare for the worst, if the US does provoke a trade war. In the meantime, Beijing is likely to seek a dialogue with Trump to ensure a smooth transition in Sino-US ties.
Today's news in Japan 2 types
1, panic mode
2, self-soothing mode
 
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TPP was born still. So, no surprise if it is going belly up in still waters of global geo-economics.

Any transnational framework where China is not a part and stakeholder is never going to work.

Not because of Sinophilia but because of the simple, undeniable fact that the entire global growth is dependent on China now and for the foreseeable future.

What is critical for the regional states is to realise where their bread is buttered. This ganging up against China or joining the fanciful China containment party is self defeating.

China has its offer on the table for all Pacific rim countries, including the US. Under OBOR framework we can build a stable and sustainable world together.

I am heartend to see the EU is finally looking East...so I expect certain Sino-EU win-win frameworks to be signed in the near future.

Peaceful times ahead. Time for zerosum games or imperial dominance is gone now. For good!
 
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