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Doesn't account for the Bio-metric data that was captured along with the devices.

All that "arsenal" requires spare parts and maintenance depots and technicians to keep them running.

The Mujahideen Government of Afghanistan requires help from Pakistan, China and Iran to set-up a supply chain for this arsenal to remain relevant.

I can foresee the Afghan Mujahideen making use of the guns, the Mi-17s, NVGs, radios and so on. But the C-130s, humvees and other hardware would be hard to keep going.
 
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I doubt it. Countries reverse engineer strategic items. A vehicle with protective chassis isn't that big of a deal. Neither the Russians or Iranians seem to have an issue requiring such vehicles.
Right. Though there's probably some rich playboys in China interested in the maxpros for their car collection. I don't think Taliban will have a hard time selling them.
 
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Yup, lots of scrap metal.

Most of these are end of life, read the countless reports on the internet. These will be used for a bit and without the parts and technical support will fall into disrepair.
 
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Ex ANA servicemen will fly these aerial platforms along side with the talibans infact in an year time, talibans will be trained by ANA as well. Humvees, Pick ups, Maxx Pro are already been used by the talibans for the last few years in many districts.
 
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Today AlJazeera gave coverage to conditions of fixed and rotary wings. All helicopters and planes were damaged beyond repair. American removed the equipment and physically damaged it.
 
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Dont worry, will see a lot of smuggled equipement in the Karkhano Market, Peshawar in upcoming days
 
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Right. Though there's probably some rich playboys in China interested in the maxpros for their car collection. I don't think Taliban will have a hard time selling them.

In China, arms trafficking is a felony. The PLA doesn't use Hummers either. They use this:
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No, the Taliban did not seize $83 billion of U.S. weapons
Glenn Kessler 15 hrs ago
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“ALL EQUIPMENT should be demanded to be immediately returned to the United States, and that includes every penny of the $85 billion dollars in cost.”
a group of people sitting at a vehicle: Afghan National Army commando forces stand guard along a road amid fighting between Taliban and Afghan security forces in Herat province on Aug. 1.
© Hoshang Hashimi/AFP/Getty Images Afghan National Army commando forces stand guard along a road amid fighting between Taliban and Afghan security forces in Herat province on Aug. 1.
— Former president Donald Trump, in a statement, Aug 30

We don’t normally pay much attention to claims made by the former president, as he mostly just riffs golden oldies. But this is a new claim. A version of this claim also circulates widely on right-leaning social media — that somehow the Taliban has ended up with $83 billion in U.S. weaponry. (Trump, as usual, rounds the number up.)
The $83 billion number is not invented out of whole cloth. But it reflects all the money spent to train, equip and house the Afghan military and police — so weapons are just a part of that. At this point, no one really knows the value of the equipment that was seized by the Taliban.
The Facts
The $83 billion figure — technically, $82.9 billion — comes from an estimate in the July 30 quarterly report by the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR) for all spending on the Afghanistan Security Forces Fund since the U.S. invasion in 2001.
In recent years, the spending has decreased. For fiscal 2021, about $3 billion was spent on security forces, which was similar to 2020.
Separately, the U.S. government spent about $36 billion on shoring up the Afghan government. The total bill for the Afghan project added up to more than $144 billion.
In any case, the $83 billion spent on the Afghan National Defense and Security Forces (ANDSF) goes back two decades, including almost $19 billion spent between 2002 and 2009.
A 2017 Government Accountability Office report estimated that about 29 percent of the funds spent on the Afghan security forces between 2005 and 2016 went to equipment and transportation. (The transportation costs related to transporting equipment and for contracted pilots and airplanes for transporting officials to meetings. There appears to be no way to segregate transportation spending.)
Using that same percentage, that would mean the equipment provided to Afghan forces amounted to $24 billion over 20 years. The GAO said approximately 70 percent of the equipment went to the Afghan military and the rest went to the national police (part of the Interior Ministry).

That’s certainly a lot of money. Between 2005 and 2016, U.S. taxpayers paid for 76,000 vehicles (such as 43,000 Ford Ranger pickup trucks, 22,000 Humvees and 900 mine-resistant ambush-protected vehicles known as MRAPs), 600,000 weapons and more than 200 aircraft, according to GAO.
Of course, some of this equipment may be obsolete or destroyed — or soon may not be usable.
The SIGAR report shows that 167 aircraft out of an inventory of 211 were usable — but the Afghan Air Force (AAF) still lacked enough qualified pilots. One issue was that the Taliban targeted pilots for assassination.
Even more problematic, there were not enough maintenance crews to maintain the aircraft. “Without continued contractor support, none of the AAF’s airframes can be sustained as combat effective for more than a few months, depending on the stock of equipment parts in-country, the maintenance capability on each airframe, and the timing of contractor support withdrawal,” the report said.
With great fanfare, the Taliban has seized a number of Black Hawk helicopters, including ones that the United States had just shipped this year at the request of former Afghan president Ashraf Ghani. But only the first crew of Black Hawk mechanics had been trained, so the military “can field no more than one UH-60 per night for helicopter missions,” SIGAR said.
Meanwhile, as the U.S. military wound down its mission, it turned over facilities and equipment to the Afghan security forces — which may have added to the total seized by the Taliban. But Gen. Kenneth F. McKenzie Jr., head of U.S. Central Command, said that before leaving Kabul airport on Aug. 30, the military “demilitarized” 70 MRAPs, 27 Humvees and 73 aircraft. “Those aircraft will never fly again,” he said. “They’ll never be able to be operated by anyone.” (Demilitarized is a term that means damaging in place, sometimes with explosives.)
“No one has any accounting of exactly what survived the last weeks of the collapse and fell into Taliban hands, and even before the collapse, SIGAR had publicly reported no accounting was possible in many districts,” said Anthony H. Cordesman of the Center for Strategic and International Studies. “In rough terms, however, if the ANDSF could not sustain it without foreign contractors, the Taliban will have very serious problems in operating it. That covers most aircraft and many electronics and heavier weapons.”
“One also has to be careful here,” Cordesman added. “The fact that Taliban fighters or cells of fighters get U.S. equipment does not mean it is pooled or shared. Factionalism and hoarding are the rule in Afghanistan, not the exception.”

The Pinocchio Test
U.S. military equipment was given to Afghan security forces over two decades. Tanks, vehicles, helicopters and other gear fell into the hands of the Taliban when the U.S.-trained force quickly collapsed. The value of these assets is unclear, but if the Taliban is unable to obtain spare parts, it may not be able to maintain them.
But the value of the equipment is not more than $80 billion. That’s the figure for all of the money spent on training and sustaining the Afghan military over 20 years. The equipment portion of that total is about $24 billion — certainly not small change — but the actual value of the equipment in the Taliban’s hands is probably much less than even that amount.

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Very sensible post. Just like the Turkey, the Chinese won't start a manufacturing line just to support Taliban's 170 Maxpros. I can assure you of that. So many of these weapon systems will work until they start breaking down and then will be sold as scrap metal. The US in no way will work with Taliban to further arm or strengthen them (unless some weird deal to fight ISIS takes place) there have been articles since yesterday that Taliban uncomfortably have become the first line of defense now against ISIS due to the total collapse of the Afghan army. So who knows. Trump administration tried to speak to Taliban so in love and war, all is allowed. May be Biden administration will find common ground with the Talibans against terrorists from ISIS, that's a true and present danger to the world.
In fact, you can find thousands of factories in China willing to take orders for all parts except individual parts such as helicopter engine. Small orders are OK as long as the Chinese government approves them.
Don't underestimate the number and capacity of factories in China.
The question is how much trust the Chinese government has in the Taliban. After all, the two countries have just begun. China cannot confirm the use of those equipment. If it is used by drug traffickers and terrorists, it will be troublesome. I think the Taliban had better sell the Black Hawk and Hummer to Pakistan.
 
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In fact, you can find thousands of factories in China willing to take orders for all parts except individual parts such as helicopter engine. Small orders are OK as long as the Chinese government approves them.
Don't underestimate the number and capacity of factories in China. For example, in the last 054A bidding, 120+ shipyards competed, and they all have the ability to produce warships of this level.
The question is how much trust the Chinese government has in the Taliban. After all, the two countries have just begun. China cannot confirm the use of those equipment. If it is used by drug traffickers and terrorists, it will be troublesome. I think the Taliban had better sell the Black Hawk and Hummer to Pakistan.

Common man, who are you fooling? If the Chinese factories were so advanced, Pakistan and many other nations wouldn't have to be waiting with their 50 year old Cobras to be upgraded by the US!

Similarly, if you were so advanced, your own PLAAF wouldn't be desperate to field fighters right now with Russian engines, you'd have built and deployed your own. So let's stop the propaganda. Realize before posting such none sense stuff that people on here might know a thing or two!
 
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Common man, who are you fooling? If the Chinese factories were so advanced, Pakistan and many other nations wouldn't have to be waiting with their 50 year old Cobras to be upgraded by the US!

Similarly, if you were so advanced, your own PLAAF wouldn't be desperate to field fighters right now with Russian engines, you'd have built and deployed your own. So let's stop the propaganda. Realize before posting such none sense stuff that people on here might know a thing or two!

The Chinese have in the last 20 years started dumping billions into R&D in various sectors of technology. Give it another 10-15 years and they’ll be positioned much better even though right now their are pretty ahead of the game. Remember the Russians had from 1940s to present to building their arms industry and tech related to engines etc. the Chinese opened up in the 70s.
 
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