Total Tally of Taliban's New Arsenal!

[Titanium100]

Most of these equipment will rust if they are not sold out.

What are you talking about you should sometimes get out of your house and visit Social media they are all operational even the Transport plane IEA has put them in operational mode and you can see them flying around in them in places like Herat airport, Kandahar airport and even Kunduz airport. Including the planes

 

[DJ_Viper]

In 1984, China bought 24 Black Hawk.
In 1989, the USA banned the sale of Black Hawk parts to China.
Now there are still 20 Black Hawk in service in China.

Because China can make parts.

China is producing a copy of the Black Hawks like many other stolen weapon designs. I get that. My question was on Pakistan and if the US would allow Pakistan to buy it.

 

[MH.Yang]

China is producing a copy of the Black Hawks like many other stolen weapon designs. I get that. My question was on Pakistan and if the US would allow Pakistan to buy it.

China does not make copies of Black Hawk. China just has the ability to repair it.

 

[sunny40]

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Doesn't account for the Bio-metric data that was captured along with the devices.

pakistan is like , you guys are my brother , now give me some

 

[Titanium100]

This was from Yesterday

https://twitter.com/x/status/1431655821985910786

https://twitter.com/x/status/1431693063764602883

 

[Blacklight]

It would be difficult to get post purchase support and maintenance from USA for us.

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Sikorsky Transfers S-70i™ Helicopter to Aselsan for Turkish Utility Helicopter Program Development
First locally-assembled multi-role utility helicopter rolled out of hangar

 

[Moon]

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Doesn't account for the Bio-metric data that was captured along with the devices.

Doesn't account for the fact that most of the planes (fixed wing) are in Uzbekistan and Tajikistan. Nor the weaponry that's been sold into black market by corrupt personnel, nor the vehicles destroyed.
Yes the IEA inherited a lot, but still less than what's stated.

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Sikorsky Transfers S-70i™ Helicopter to Aselsan for Turkish Utility Helicopter Program Development
First locally-assembled multi-role utility helicopter rolled out of hangar

US can still block it.
However, Chinese do make a variant of the UH-60, maybe their parts can be fit into the US variant?

 

[Blacklight]

22k Humvees and 8k trucks seems like an exaggerated number along with 358K assault rifles (there were a total of 300K Afghan military personal including well over 100K of Police, Paramilitary's, etc. and this 100+K doesn't use assault rifles.

Good point! This means that this h/w will be used for some unsanctioned (by congress), conflicts, and a convenient scapegoat will take the blame.

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

Even if we get 2000 Humvees that would be enough for Baluchistan and Fata Hot zones.

True but Maxpros are vetter against IEDs and all that.

 

[Blacklight]

US can still block it.
However, Chinese do make a variant of the UH-60, maybe their parts can be fit into the US variant?

Ofcourse they can! As I see it these are their options as of now, do add what you deem fit.

1) Let Taliban use them, if support is not provided they might turn to China for support, or worse well it to them for scrap.

2) Hand them over to Pakistan, and provide support via Turkey (which wont happen), or directly via Sikorsky.

3) Destroy them while they are still on the ground, via air strikes.

4) Buy them from the Taliban.

 

[Battlion25]

22k Humvees and 8k trucks seems like an exaggerated number along with 358K assault rifles (there were a total of 300K Afghan military personal including well over 100K of Police, Paramilitary's, etc. and this 100+K don't use assault rifles). Similarly. 169 artillery and 169 APC seems like a lower number.

As someone whos versed in this the numbers are not exaggeration but rather an understatement meaning it is technically under-reported because the US were really arming ANA and ANP to the teeth and because they were losing alot of equipment because it was an active war for the past 20 years hence the US had alot of reserve stockpiles and imo half of the Humvees are brand new and never used humvees that IEA took from the stockpiles after the conquest..

The Assualts rifles are also under-reported there is still another 100k under-reported and the picks up are also under-reported slightly and could reach 50k pick ups give or take..

IEA hit big on the reserve stockpile due to this being a continous war having a large reserve stockpile made sense for the US logistically..

Majority of the assault rifles were taken from the reserve stockpile including the humvees and in fact majority of the haul around 60% comes from the reserve stockpiles..

Now looking back at the war it must have been finanicially nightmare for the US constantly resupplying the ANA and ANP with arms over the years and putting alot of money into the ANA

 

[Moon]

All are viable except:

2) Hand them over to Pakistan, and provide support via Turkey (which wont happen), or directly via Sikorsky

Why would we want a helicopter, that costs more to operate and maintain than a Mi-17 and carry less payload than one?

3) Destroy them while they are still on the ground, via air strikes.

Launching airstrikes now, would be against the ceasefire. If US does break it, Taliban is likely to retaliate and not cooperate in the future.

Even if we get 2000 Humvees that would be enough for Baluchistan and Fata Hot zones.

Humvees are some of the worst vehicles when it comes to IEDs. They're literally flat from the bottom and "thin skinned", even the up-armoured ones.
Furthermore, unreliable compared to pickups and maintenance demanding. They won't run more than 3 months after support stops, Talibs will have to cannibalise their fleet. Or source Chinese or Iranian parts.
Humvees on the Eastern front is a different game altogether.

 

[Battlion25]

Overall great haul for IEA they just need to strengthen few other places because all the fundamental areas are covered now.. IEA has strong conventional armed forces overnight

 

[Blacklight]

Even if we get 2000 Humvees that would be enough for Baluchistan and Fata Hot zones.

Humvees are obsolete. They are also no longer in production.
Unless they have been uparmored, they are incapable of taking IED hits. Which does not seem to be the case with ex-ANA

Regular Vs Up-Armored

Army Says Humvees No Longer to Be Used in Combat Roles
4/12/2012

M1114 HMMWV Up-Armored Humvee armament carrier

 

[Big Tank]

Humvees do not handle IEDs AT ALL. They'd be nothing different than an armored hilux which is useless against an IED as well.

Buying these goodies from Taliban means needing to maintain them which we can't.

Reason:

1: A lot of cost for maintenance.
2: US won't sell spares and such vehicles require extensive maintenance.
3: Turkey won't help us maintain them. They don't wanna get sanctioned for such a petty thing.

So guys, stop dreaming. It will be useless for Taliban too if US doesn't supply them with parts and service support. China is their option but yet again, it depends if China can produce parts for MaxxPro or Humvees.