Tosha Khana Record about Maryam Nawaz, PMLN and PDM

[villageidiot]

Does the date 2008 imply he took it in that year? If so, how come did he do that when he wasn't even PM that year?

Nawas zardari bhai bhai.
I heard somewhere before that it was zardari who gifted NS one.

 

[Jango]

Is not a 100 PKR crime, still a crime? Can the accused be defended on pleas that the accusers were bigger crooks?

Where is the crime?

 

[Path-Finder]

When it suits you, you play religious cards and mob lynch people. And when it does not suit you, dOnT bRiNg rELiGiOuS cARd... Hypocrite..

don't call me a hypocrite, I am not the one bringing up someone's adultery stories. which in Islamic law is prohibited to do. what did you see the zina with your own eyes?

anyway why does a noonie care about morality, ethical issues.

 

[villageidiot]

Atleast he didn't sold the item and spend money on road

Yea yes don’t get distracted. He kept the car, or gifted it to his sons or whatever , therefore all good.

@ziaulislam , you may be employing sarcasm but they are legit making that point. Not even making this shit up.
There's a guy of twitter TheSaadKaisar, comes off as educated but still a patwari
He's saying buying from toshakhana is not a crime, selling it is, like IK did. Because it hurts the gifting country's feelings. What a patwaris thing to say. Right up there with, "Khaana Kaaba ki tasweer wali ghari bech di"
As if no one else has sold any of that stuff.

And what about non-gonvernment servants getting this stuff? Maryam Nawaz, Hussain nawaz, who is not only not a Pakistani government servant, but not a Pakistan citizen as well, he is a british citizen, according the themselves.

I think there is no bar to be a serving PM. I believe ex-PM's and ministers can also get things from Toshakhana. But let me double check this too.

Lut paye he.

Like someone said, if nothing else, IK has shown us the rotten face of our system.

 

[AZ1]

@ziaulislam , you may be employing sarcasm but they are legit making that point. Not even making this shit up.
There's a guy of twitter TheSaadKaisar, comes off as educated but still a patwari
He's saying buying from toshakhana is not a crime, selling it is, like IK did. Because it hurts the gifting country's feelings. What a patwaris thing to say. Right up there with, "Khaana Kaaba ki tasweer wali ghari bech di"
As if no one else has sold any of that stuff.

And what about non-gonvernment servants getting this stuff? Maryam Nawaz, Hussain nawaz, who is not only not a Pakistani government servant, but not a Pakistan citizen as well, he is a british citizen, according the themselves.


Lut paye he.

Like someone said, if nothing else, IK has shown us the rotten face of our system.

should ask that guy if pine apple still intact

 

[villageidiot]

I was going through the list and it isn't only politicians.

The PS to PM, staff officers, ADC's, Brig Waseem etc are there too.

Then one country even gave gifts to the security officers, protocol officers, constables, gunmen as well. Wonder who that was? Must appreciate though.

Surprise surprise, the new chairman NAB Lt gen Nazir Butt, who came and immediately started investigating IK for toshakhana, also got a watch himself

should ask that guy if pine apple still intact

He legit said, pineapple kharab hone wali cheez he. Pari to rehni nhi thi. Kharab ho jati. Is liye maryam ne le li. Aur hota bhi 300rs ka he. Ab maryam ne 300 rs to nhi dene the na.

 

[GriffinsRule]

Legally, only office holders can purchase Tosha Khana items; if Maryam Nawaz purchased anything then it was NOT legal and the state should file a case against her. Imran Khan should have done that when he was in power.

Moreover, we have no real scale to measure morally corrupt and reprehensible acts. Selling of MBS's gift, a one in a kind gift at that, is right up there. Amongst legal but extremely immoral things, the only thing that trumps Imran Khan's act of SELLING the watch is maybe Gilani taking the necklace which was gifted to the earthquake victims by the Turkish first lady.

My real concern is, MBS is an Arab, they are proud and they are extremely egoistic. MBS, being the defacto King, is more egoistic than many of his predecessors and selling a gift which he personally gifted to Imran Khan may have repercussions for all Pakistanis as it defines a trait against which we will all be judged by the Saudi.

one of a gift my ***. this is the best argument you have?

 

[villageidiot]

That killed me. Lol

My chicken Shawarma almost came out.



All this shows is how low-class blood these scoundrels are. No dignity and self-respect for themselves; it's something no amount of money can buy, whether you are born with it or not through good breeding.

Money can't buy class.

FOR REAL, one thing that stuck with me during this whole thing is, ye shehbaz sharif ke shauq bhi bhikariyon wale hn. I looked at his gifts and I had to stifle my laughs for several minutes straight at 2AM last night.

 

[PakFactor]

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Saleem Bukhari anchor got 2 watch

Geo directot also got 1 watch

and express amir ilayas

LOL! The comment: Mein na samja tum sirf Bahir sa Kala ho Magar tum tu ander sa bi kala nikla !

https://twitter.com/x/status/1634981076052627456

 

[Imran Khan]

لٹ تے گئے آں پر چس بڑی آئی اے

جو بھی ہوا مزہ بڑا آیا ۔ اسی طرح ہر چیز پبلک ہوتی جائے تو چند سال میں ہی ملک با شعور بن جائے گا

آئی ایس آئی فائلز ملٹری فائلز ملٹری بجٹ ملٹری آڈٹ ملٹری توشہ خانہ سب اوپن کرو ،

 

[Imran Khan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1635121124311961600

 

[Jango]

Lut paye he.

Like someone said, if nothing else, IK has shown us the rotten face of our system.

Ok so I just went over the rules and there is no mention of current or former, only elected representatives.

Moreover, the rules (although this was the 2018 version, maybe the rules were different in 2008) state that the 'recepient' can buy an item. So Nawaz Sharif could not have been a recepient during 2008. So how is his name in the list in 2008? Either the list is fishy, or NS broke an actual rule.

 

[PakFactor]

Ok so I just went over the rules and there is no mention of current or former, only elected representatives.

Moreover, the rules (although this was the 2018 version, maybe the rules were different in 2008) state that the 'recepient' can buy an item. So Nawaz Sharif could not have been a recepient during 2008. So how is his name in the list in 2008? Either the list is fishy, or NS broke an actual rule.

Yar, when has anyone followed the rules when gifting relatives and friends Rolexes in Pakistan?

The way they dished out Rolexes makes me appreciate the two I have even less.

 

[Tomcats]

Many exposed as Toshakhana details surface​

• Zardari, Nawaz retained bulletproof vehicles; Imran took multiple watches
• Most of the gifts acquired free of cost; millions of rupees spent on gifts given to foreign delegates

ISLAMABAD: The government on Sunday made public the details of foreign gifts retained by public office holders — presidents, prime ministers, federal cabinet members, politicians, bureaucrats, retired generals, judges and journalists from 2002 to 2022.

The details of Toshakhana were updated on the website of the Cabinet Division.

Prominent personalities who benefited from the Toshakhana gifts included President Dr Arif Alvi, Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, former prime minister Imran Khan, ex-prime minister Nawaz Sharif, ex-president Asif Ali Zardari, late military dictator Pervez Musharraf, former premier Shaukat Aziz, ex-PM Yousuf Raza Gilani, ex-PM Shahid Khaqan Abbasi, ex-PM Raja Pervaiz Ashraf, ex-PM Zafarullah Khan Jamali, Senate Chairman Sadiq Sanjrani, Finance Minister Ishaq Dar, Foreign Minister Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari, Sheikh Rashid Ahmed, Khursheed Kasuri, Abdul Hafeez Shaikh, Jehangir Tarin, Shah Mehmood Qureshi, and Dr Attaur Rehman among others.

As per the documents, most of the gifts were retained by the office holders free of cost except for a few ones.

Mr Zardari and Nawaz Sharif received one bulletproof vehicle each during their visits and retained these vehicles after paying some money to the Toshakhana.

Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan and his wife received five precious wristwatches, ornaments and other items.

Pervez Musharraf and Shaukat Aziz retained hundreds of foreign gifts without paying a penny.

In return for the gifts received from foreign dignitaries, these public office holders, especially the rulers, gave away gifts worth millions of rupees to the foreign delegates.

Asif Ali Zardari

The details revealed that Mr Zardari retained one BMW 760 Li white (security version) on Jan 26, 2009. The value of the car was fixed at Rs27.3 million while the former president retained it after paying a little more than Rs4m.

In March 2011, he retained a wristwatch worth Rs1m after paying Rs158,250 for the watch and some other items.

In June 2011, he retained a wristwatch worth Rs1.25m after paying a sum of Rs189,219 for the watch and some other items.

In Oct 2011, the PPP leader retained a Cartier wristwatch worth Rs1m after making a payment of Rs321,000 for the watch and a gun.

Nawaz Sharif

The PML-N supreme leader was gifted a Mercedes Benz car on April 20, 2008 which was worth Rs4.25m.

The former PM retained it after paying Rs0.636m, as per the document. The document did not mention in what capacity Mr Sharif received the vehicle.

Imran Khan

Mr Khan received five precious wristwatches, including a Graff watch, worth Rs3.8 million. He retained these gifts in Oct 2018 after paying a sum of Rs0.754m.

In September 2018, he retained a Graff wristwatch worth Rs85m, a pair of cufflinks worth Rs5.6m, a pen worth Rs1.5m, and a ring worth Rs8.75m after paying Rs20m for these items.

Another Rolex watch worth Rs1.5m soon followed and the former prime minister retained it after paying Rs294,000 for the precious item.

In November 2018, Imran Khan retained another Rolex wristwatch worth Rs900,000 after paying a sum of Rs338,600 for the watch and some other items.

In October 2019, he retained a boxed watch, assessed at Rs1.9m, after paying a sum of Rs935,000. In September 2020, Imran Khan retained another Rolex watch, assessed at Rs4.4m, after paying Rs2.4m for the watch and a number of other gifts.

In the same month, his wife Bushra Bibi kept a necklace worth Rs10m, a bracelet worth Rs2.4m, a ring worth Rs2.8m, and a pair of earrings worth Rs1.85m after paying a sum of Rs9m for these gifts.

Arif Alvi

President Dr Arif Alvi’s wife, Samina Alvi, retained a necklace worth Rs1.19m in October 2019 after paying Rs865,000 for it and other items in the jewellery box.

The president himself retained a Rolex wristwatch worth Rs2.5m in February 2022 after paying Rs1.2m.

Sheikh Rashid retained dozens of gifts, including two gold coins, on Feb 3, 2003, after paying a mere Rs3,420.

Khurshid M Qasuri received several gifts in 2005 and retained these items free of cost.

Raja Pervaiz Ashraf retained a Graff wristwatch assessed at Rs890,000 in November 2012 after paying a sum of Rs218,000 for it and other items.

Published in Dawn, March 13th, 2023

Many exposed as Toshakhana details surface

Zardari, Nawaz retained bulletproof vehicles; Imran took multiple watches; Most of the gifts acquired free of charge.

www.dawn.com

 

[Valar.]

don't call me a hypocrite, I am not the one bringing up someone's adultery stories. which in Islamic law is prohibited to do. what did you see the zina with your own eyes?

anyway why does a noonie care about morality, ethical issues.

You are Hypocrite.

You are one of the biggest hypocrite of this forum.

You judge liberals/Lgbtq/Athiests/Agnostics etc all the time and say that their way of life is punishable only to support your favourite leader who indulges in the same things.

Either law applies on everyone or no one.