TOS 1A Buratino for Iraqi Army

[Kompromat]

@1000

What you need is airpower and special ops.

 

[Nike]

And flattened grozny .. and massacred chechans... google war crimes in chechniya..

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second chechen war grozny - Google Search

my self found it is all fair in war and love, there is no such thing of moral obligation in war situations. It is either you kill or to be killed.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

my self found it is all fair in war and love, there is no such thing of moral obligation in war situations. It is either you kill or to be killed.

Tht happens if you are fighting a rival/enemy country .. not your own countrymen... do tht and there wont be a country... the already divided Iraq ... will be no more..

 

[Nike]

Tht happens if you are fighting a rival/enemy country .. not your own countrymen...

The Chechen rebels doesn't consider themselves as part of Russian, so with the ISIS soldiers who doesn't acknowledge they are part of Iraq anymore and they will not hesitate to kill the Iraqis or the Russian soldiers or loyal civilian at first sight. So why the Iraqis and the Russian must hold back themselves when fighting against such kind of enemies?

 

[1000]

@1000

What you need is airpower and special ops.

We need proper training for our recruits & good commanders, since we lack the latter the first doesn't happen.

 

[1000]

Apparently 10 Russian SU-27 are going to be upgraded & overhauled then sold to Iraq making the way for new SU-35 orders in the longer term and the F16's will be delivered within 2 weeks says another news agency.

 

[Informant]

Soon to be in ISIS hands.

 

[Kompromat]

Apparently 10 Russian SU-27 are going to be upgraded & overhauled then sold to Iraq making the way for new SU-35 orders in the longer term and the F16's will be delivered within 2 weeks says another news agency.

Thats a good news. Iraq should also buy some Su-34 Fullbacks for strike roles.

As for training SOF, the SSG is helping the ISOF in whatever capacity it can. Unfortunately it takes very long to raise a fully functional and self sufficient SOF culture with a capacity of producing worthy combat commanders.

SSG kicks *** because its been there since the 50s and now has a powerful and mature C&C structure. From, COIN ,CT,Hostage rescue, Mountain warfare to, Covert ops, Submarine warfare to Arctic warfare and even Nuclear/Chemical/Bio warfare, SSG is trained for all of those roles.

ISOF is very well geared, only if they regularly train with our Special Operations Task Force (SOTF), which specialises in shock heli bourne night raids, it would greatly improve ISOF's abilities to conduct such critical operations.

During Swat op, SSG faced stiff resistence, but now they have drilled terror into the hearts of the toughest terrorists. So much so that instead of fighting, they just simply run or surrender during the Op Zarb-e-azb.

 

[general_yermolov_stalin]

Soon to be in ISIS hands.

Will they able to operate it, IFF codes can be deployed too. Plus uzbek/Tajik military mercenaries can be put to deployment against ISIS. yes,there are and were central asian units still in Russian army for usage of vacuum bombs.Many elite units,cossack,central asian and dagestanis operate under Vnevedomstvenaya Okhrana and are well trained to operate such weapons.

 

[C130]

my opinion has always been Iraq needs a strong Air Force, f the Army....they literally ran and pissed their pants at the thought of having to face harden fanatical terrorists. a strong loyal brave army of 50,000 to 100,000 with a strong Air force would give them the confidence to face IS or any threat.

attack helicopters
su-25
drones
su-27, f-16

would do quick work of them if they stay out in the open.
they wouldn't dare be moving around like this if U.S Air Force was still operating in Iraq.

 

[1000]

Thats a good news. Iraq should also buy some Su-34 Fullbacks for strike roles.

As for training SOF, the SSG is helping the ISOF in whatever capacity it can. Unfortunately it takes very long to raise a fully functional and self sufficient SOF culture with a capacity of producing worthy combat commanders.

SSG kicks *** because its been there since the 50s and now has a powerful and mature C&C structure. From, COIN ,CT,Hostage rescue, Mountain warfare to, Covert ops, Submarine warfare to Arctic warfare and even Nuclear/Chemical/Bio warfare, SSG is trained for all of those roles.

ISOF is very well geared, only if they regularly train with our Special Operations Task Force (SOTF), which specialises in shock heli bourne night raids, it would greatly improve ISOF's abilities to conduct such critical operations.

During Swat op, SSG faced stiff resistence, but now they have drilled terror into the hearts of the toughest terrorists. So much so that instead of fighting, they just simply run or surrender during the Op Zarb-e-azb.

ISOF is only 10k they can't do it on their own, the masses of soldiers ( 200k + ) need proper training otherwise ISIS won't be defeated.

Putting 200k people through 3 months of intensive training is a huge project but required to get soldiers who won't be captured easily and who will actually kill many enemies.

 

[Kompromat]

ISOF is only 10k they can't do it on their own, the masses of soldiers ( 200k + ) need proper training otherwise ISIS won't be defeated.

Putting 200k people through 3 months of intensive training is a huge project but required to get soldiers who won't be captured easily and who will actually kill many enemies.

I disagree. For the sort of war you are facing, what you need the most is not the numbers but tactics, precision weapons, intelligence and planning, all streamlined into a long term strategy.

We trained Sri Lankans and planned their operations. Finally they built their capacity and defeated the LTTE.

If Iraqi govt asks Pakistan of something similar, we would help Iraq, regain its lost territory to these pigs.

 

[Imran Khan]

su-27 will be nice addition i don't think abut f-16 because iraqis will be new on them

 

[Nike]

If Iraqis can pay mercenaries from Tuareg tribes in North Africa (they are notoriously be known as anti-radical Islamist faction in North Africa and been part of Ghadaffy loyal supporters), South American, Central Asia or Russian origins, it will be a nice addition to adding the combat capacity of Iraq Army. Using them in front line will giving you much time space to train your youngster. As i know, several of security agency around the world offering this kind of services and they are quite professional.

 

[1000]

I disagree. For the sort of war you are facing, what you need the most is not the numbers but tactics, precision weapons, intelligence and planning, all streamlined into a long term strategy.

We trained Sri Lankans and planned their operations. Finally they built their capacity and defeated the LTTE.

If Iraqi govt asks Pakistan of something similar, we would help Iraq, regain its lost territory to these pigs.

You see what I mean.

Someone is firing without taking time to aim, someone else is spraying his machine gun whilst walking, someone is firing his M4 with 1 hand ( half in the air ).

This is no CQB so they won't hit anyone, if it was CQB the machine gun spraying would be acceptable, but the m4 in the air not in any case