Top US officials fly around pitting countries against China. Where is our foreign office????????????

[FairAndUnbiased]

I've mostly only dated non-Asian women, including many White women.

And no, I'm not pro-White. I'm actually very critical of racist attitudes against Asians in America.

I'm stating facts about the reality of China's ineptitude in image management. But if you don't want to see it, like most of the other Chinese members here, go ahead but don't be surprised by the results.

I don't see this as inept.

Ew, the only women I find attractive r mainland Chinese and some Japanese. To me, white women seem even uglier than South Koreans...

attractive women come in every color.

I can read and write Chinese. Not at an advanced level (like a newspaper level) but good enough for business and conversation.

I used to be a lot more pro-China when I was younger but after meeting so many Mainland Chinese business people and realizing that they have very different standards of ethics and fair play, it's impossible to deny the truth. I've also been to about 15 different provinces in China on about 8-9 different trips.



Chinese people are indeed hard working and in general, low crime. However when it comes to business ethics, Mainlanders in general are pretty shitty. Taiwanese, Southeast Asian Chinese and Singaporeans, far better. Hong Kongers, pretty shitty in general as well.

Can you tell me if Boeing is a mainland Chinese or Hong Kong based company? Thanks.

“Max 737 designed by clowns who in turn are supervised by monkeys.”

 

[riscol]

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson cancels trip to the White House after angry phone call
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...mp-us-visit-huawei-5g-g7-brexit-a9335986.html

 

[AViet]

China has a horrendous PR and HR department. It's foreign affairs just repeat the old and tired "win win" argument repeatedly and think that a big wallet can buy friendship.

The reality is that China's international image is horrible and few countries trust it. China is seen as a selfish country with zero ethics and zero moral compass. A large part of this is because of the shitty behavior of it's own citizens in other countries, another part of this is the complete ineptitude of Chinese media in projecting a favorable image of the country or making friends.
.

Overall, I see that China has gained a lot of influence worldwide in recent years, compared to 20 years ago, despite of the relative weakness of its propaganda machine (e.g. CGTN is weak even compared to Russia-based RT, let alone Al-Jazeara or BBC).

In Vietnam, one can easily see that Vietnamese has increasingly viewed China in more favorable ways, compared to just some years ago (e.g. 2014, when China invaded Vietnam's East Sea), which can be seen in vnexpress.net (the most viewed online media) articles and comments

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

China did not gain its value by using western dirty techniques, Pakistani are messed up cuz we cant coup up with western democrazy and they are holding us back with their education or lets say systematically they dont want to follow what we sud be doing.
China is doing great diplomatically its also called a sleeping gaint so keep sleeping till someone really wants a hard punch. No need to rush on things that are not in your favor.

 

[Yankee-stani]

I can read and write Chinese. Not at an advanced level (like a newspaper level) but good enough for business and conversation.

I used to be a lot more pro-China when I was younger but after meeting so many Mainland Chinese business people and realizing that they have very different standards of ethics and fair play, it's impossible to deny the truth. I've also been to about 15 different provinces in China on about 8-9 different trips.



Chinese people are indeed hard working and in general, low crime. However when it comes to business ethics, Mainlanders in general are pretty shitty. Taiwanese, Southeast Asian Chinese and Singaporeans, far better. Hong Kongers, pretty shitty in general as well.

About the US creating fake news to demonize China, absolutely agreed 100%. Although some of the criticism is valid and justified, obviously there is an agenda behind it and China is not treated fairly. But we are talking about China's ineptitude here in challenging this, aren't we? China is inept in responding to this. If you want to believe otherwise, go ahead and provide proof.



Even for someone with an ethnic Chinese background like myself who can speak conversationally fluent Mandarin, it is challenging to do business with many Mainland Chinese because of significant cultural barriers and different standards of honesty, ethics and accountability. There are some who are great, don't get me wrong. Some are very honest and great people, but I have met a disproportionate percentage who are the opposite.

For someone who can't even speak Chinese, it's a non starter. However if you are White you have an advantage as many of these Mainland Chinese obsess about White people and may start a relationship with you just because of your race.



I'll keep that in mind but it's pretty hard to ignore the significant shift in general attitude towards China among Muslims I encounter on a regular basis. Whereas in the past, it was pretty positive or at least neutral, now it gets awkward and pretty negative.

I really dont take the opinions of people online or of the Western Muslim immigrant perspective as they dont have any power to carry out meaningful policies for change those who are in the media or politics here are just fifth columns

 

[jaibi]

It's an election year. Taking a more tactful approach right now as China is as well, would be the wisest move.

 

[Viet]

Familiarity breeds contempt, most countries are not particularly friendly to their immediate neighbors.

That is very BAD!

Vietnam and Japan, Germany and France were archenemy for centuries now they are best friends.

 

[tower9]

I don't see this as inept.



attractive women come in every color.



Can you tell me if Boeing is a mainland Chinese or Hong Kong based company? Thanks.

“Max 737 designed by clowns who in turn are supervised by monkeys.”

China's image control is incredibly inept. South Korea has incredible soft power and it is 1/30th the size of China. China is the world's second superpower yet has little to no soft power and it's image is easily manipulated by the hostile Western media fueled by CIA disinformation campaigns. You think this should be considered effective image control?

There is no doubt there are many veins of corruption in corporate America. However people that are well acquainted with both societies know that unethical behavior is just more widespread in Chinese business culture. A lot of this has to do with education and development. Perhaps this might be different 50 years from now. Who knows. The problem is that China has gone through immense social changes and the way that people operate, basically on survival tier mentality, is a product of that. It is just what it is.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

China's image control is incredibly inept. South Korea has incredible soft power and it is 1/30th the size of China. China is the world's second superpower yet has little to no soft power and it's image is easily manipulated by the hostile Western media fueled by CIA disinformation campaigns. You think this should be considered effective image control?

There is no doubt there are many veins of corruption in corporate America. However people that are well acquainted with both societies know that unethical behavior is just more widespread in Chinese business culture. A lot of this has to do with education and development. Perhaps this might be different 50 years from now. Who knows. The problem is that China has gone through immense social changes and the way that people operate, basically on survival tier mentality, is a product of that. It is just what it is.

You just saw how the room clapped when Fu Ying hit back at Pelosi. People aren't stupid. You can't fool educated people all the time.

For all it's supposed soft power does South Korea reap much more tangible benefit? And how much of that is due to South Korea being effective, rather than nobody getting in their way? All kpop added together is just $5 billion. https://m.economictimes.com/magazin...-improve-its-economy/articleshow/65266543.cms

All that, 30 years in the making, and South Korea only makes $5B. Despite that most neighbor
countries had similar views of South Korea and China even in 2015: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/...cs-see-each-other-and-their-national-leaders/

As for the business stuff, I don't know what field you are in, but in my field everyone is ISO 9001 certified, their equipment is tested by 3rd party labs to various ISO and ASTM specifications, and it doesn't matter where something comes from. Maybe in some personal small business setting it's different, but in corporate manufacturing, everything is standardized.

 

[beijingwalker]

South Korea has incredible soft power

South Korea has Incredible soft power? Let's see how foreigners know about China and Korea.

 

[Paul2]

We took 2 losses already:

On February 1th:

And a week later: Chinese village torched


On February 4th:

And a week later: China-led $280 million Kyrgyzstan project abandoned after protests

 

[tower9]

You just saw how the room clapped when Fu Ying hit back at Pelosi. People aren't stupid. You can't fool educated people all the time.

For all it's supposed soft power does South Korea reap much more tangible benefit? And how much of that is due to South Korea being effective, rather than nobody getting in their way? All kpop added together is just $5 billion. https://m.economictimes.com/magazin...-improve-its-economy/articleshow/65266543.cms

All that, 30 years in the making, and South Korea only makes $5B. Despite that most neighbor
countries had similar views of South Korea and China even in 2015: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/...cs-see-each-other-and-their-national-leaders/

As for the business stuff, I don't know what field you are in, but in my field everyone is ISO 9001 certified, their equipment is tested by 3rd party labs to various ISO and ASTM specifications, and it doesn't matter where something comes from. Maybe in some personal small business setting it's different, but in corporate manufacturing, everything is standardized.

First of all, I hate Pelosi and the rest of the Neocons. They are pure evil. Also re the clip you shared, that's what China needs to be doing more but unfortunately it hasn't been.

Secondly, re your chart, South Korea's favorability among Asian nations is far higher than China. So IDK what you are talking about. South Korea's Kpop may make only $5 billion and I guess that is the consolation of many Chinese nationalists, but throughout the world it has changed and altered people's perception of Asian men into a more positive image. Even tons of non-Asian teenage girls nowadays pine for Asian boyfriends which was unthinkable even a decade ago. What has China done in comparison? South Korea's image is many times far superior than China's. South Korea has so much of a superior image that when you see video clips on say, Tik Tok (which is a Chinese owned app), of good looking Chinese people, the comments automatically think they are Korean. While when you have videos of Southeast Asians eating bats and rats, the comments automatically say they are Chinese. That's the power of media, even though dog eating is much more a Korean tradition than Chinese, and Northern Chinese basically have the same features as Koreans but everyone considers the glamorous Kpop look to be solely a Korean thing.

Re your third point, not sure how that relates to what I was saying about the levels of ethics among many Chinese business people.

South Korea has Incredible soft power? Let's see how foreigners know about China and Korea.

This was 6 years ago. Do this interview now and with teenage girls. South Korea is a superpower while China is a country of dog and bat eaters who are killing Muslims in concentration camps.

The only positive thing is that many people can't tell Asians apart so they may associate Kpop with China.

 

[Paul2]

Good news, at least Europeans shown them a middle finger. I bet Trump will keep pressuring them, and try again.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

First of all, I hate Pelosi and the rest of the Neocons. They are pure evil. Also re the clip you shared, that's what China needs to be doing more but unfortunately it hasn't been.

Secondly, re your chart, South Korea's favorability among Asian nations is far higher than China. So IDK what you are talking about. South Korea's Kpop may make only $5 billion and I guess that is the consolation of many Chinese nationalists, but throughout the world it has changed and altered people's perception of Asian men into a more positive image. Even tons of non-Asian teenage girls nowadays pine for Asian boyfriends which was unthinkable even a decade ago. What has China done in comparison? South Korea's image is many times far superior than China's. South Korea has so much of a superior image that when you see video clips on say, Tik Tok (which is a Chinese owned app), of good looking Chinese people, the comments automatically think they are Korean. While when you have videos of Southeast Asians eating bats and rats, the comments automatically say they are Chinese. That's the power of media, even though dog eating is much more a Korean tradition than Chinese, and Northern Chinese basically have the same features as Koreans but everyone considers the glamorous Kpop look to be solely a Korean thing.

Re your third point, not sure how that relates to what I was saying about the levels of ethics among many Chinese business people.



This was 6 years ago. Do this interview now and with teenage girls. South Korea is a superpower while China is a country of dog and bat eaters who are killing Muslims in concentration camps.

The only positive thing is that many people can't tell Asians apart so they may associate Kpop with China.

You hate Pelosi but what we think doesn't matter. Only what the elite politicians and billionaires think really matters. Everyone at that conference was an elite politician, general or billionaire. For them to applaud Fu Ying is worth more than random girls liking Kpop.

I don't think we are looking at the same chart. China is 51% favorable, South Korea is 47%. China is also more unfavorable than South Korea. That just means more people are undecided on South Korea.

I have benefitted from the Kpop craze but that doesn't mean I think Kpop is everything or that Kpop matters to the survival of the Korean nation. BTW, many Kpop bands have Chinese members i.e. Lay (Zhang Yixin), Kris Wu, Henry Lau. I don't hate Kpop or think it is useless, it is just not useful for the purposes of political or economic power.

For all it's soft power, did you know Japan sanctioned South Korea in 2019? Which country lifted a finger to help South Korea other than China? All of South Korean allies abandoned it. Is South Korea able to convert soft power to geopolitical or economic gains? I don't see it.

PS: what industry audits mean is that nobody is trusted by default. It does not matter where you come from. Any supplier who meets audit and test requirements is trusted, otherwise they aren't, there's no room for subjectivity.

 

[beijingwalker]

This was 6 years ago. Do this interview now and with teenage girls. South Korea is a superpower while China is a country of dog and bat eaters who are killing Muslims in concentration camps.

The only positive thing is that many people can't tell Asians apart so they may associate Kpop with China.

Korean dramas and shows peaked 5-10 years ago , and now they are much less appealing, softpower doesn't mean appeal for teen girls only and Calling China a country of dog and bat eaters who are killing Muslims in concentration camps shows you lost it due to blind anger towards China, please stay sane.