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Top One Percent: Are Hindus the New Jews in America?

no, they give visas based on wealth and education.
Thanks. So basically they are issuing visas to wealthy and educated Chinese, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis as well right? So how are Indian Hindus standing apart and doing well here?
 
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Thanks. So basically they are issuing visas to wealthy and educated Chinese, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis as well right?

no, they're not. 75% of H-1Bs are Indian despite the fact that far less than 75% of Indians meet H-1B requirements.


There are 20% more Indians (300k) on the family immigration wait list than Chinese (250k).


it seems that US has a strong preference for Indians. Indians in the US are highly privileged.
 
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According to Pew, Muslim population is 0.9% and Hindu population is 0.7%. The difference isn't huge.

i doubt it. Check how many mosque in US compared to Hindu religious centers... you will be shocked. But anyway, for some reason Indians/Hindus love to assimilate with white Americans, But still count as " Brown".. Indian favorite business is motels and C stores in US. They are more toward ethnic business.
 
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Actually, Indian wants to leave India to hook or by crook ..... I have seen many fraud cases of how Indians get the nationality,.. fraud cases of battered women, declared themselves Christian and apply for refugee status . marry a sister and show them a wife in paper etc etc.. fake companies, fake sponsorships ..
one more Indian job ...

 
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no, they're not. 75% of H-1Bs are Indian despite the fact that far less than 75% of Indians meet H-1B requirements.
This is H1B criteria and requirements. How are Indians to blame if they are simply more qualified for it?


H-1B Visa, Work Visa to USA

H-1B is an employment based, non-immigrant visa for temporary workers in America.
H-1B is an employer sponsored visa i.e. an employer must offer a job and petition for your H-1B visa with US immigration department.
This approved petition is a work permit allows you to get visa stamp and work in US for that employer.

Who qualifies for H-1B Visa ?

H-1B is issued to a specialty occupation , requires theoretical and practical application of a body of specialized knowledge along with a bachelors degree or its equivalent.

The US employer must be able to justify the exclusive need for this foreign worker/visa holder and prove that the task cannot be accomplished by a local citizen who may either be unavailable or not qualified, either academically or professionally.


There are 20% more Indians (300k) on the family immigration wait list than Chinese (250k).

https://travel.state.gov/content/da...stics/WaitingList/WaitingListItem_2020_vF.pdf
20% is not a huge difference. In that same PDF, I can see Mexican and Philipines above Indians.

it seems that US has a strong preference for Indians. Indians in the US are highly privileged.
Is it because Indians are more skilled in specilaty occupations?
i doubt it. Check how many mosque in US compared to Hindu religious centers... you will be shocked.
I don't have an idea about that. Can you post some article?
But anyway, for some reason Indians/Hindus love to assimilate with white Americans, But still count as " Brown".. Indian favorite business is motels and C stores in US. They are more toward ethnic business.
So you want to go to some other country and consider yourself some king or what? The responsibility of immigrants and minorities is to contribute to the economy. Simple.
 
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Hindu Americans have surpassed Jewish Americans in education and rival them in household incomes. How did immigrants from India, one of the world's poorest countries, join the ranks of the richest people in the United States? How did such a small minority of just 1% become so disproportionately represented in the highest income occupations ranging from top corporate executives and technology entrepreneurs to doctors, lawyers and investment bankers? Indian-American Professor Devesh Kapur, co-author of The Other One Percent: Indians in America, explains it in terms of educational achievement. He says that an Indian-American is at least 9 times more educated than an individual in India. He attributes it to what he calls a process of "triple selection".

Hindu American Household Income:

A 2016 Pew study reported that more than a third of Hindus (36%) and four-in-ten Jews (44%) live in households with incomes of at least $100,000. More recently, the US Census data shows that the median household income of Indian-Americans, vast majority of whom are Hindus, has reached $127,000, the highest among all ethnic groups in America.

Median income of Pakistani-American households is $87.51K, below $97.3K for Asian-Americans but significantly higher than $65.71K for overall population. Median income for Indian-American households $126.7K, the highest in the nation.


Hindu Americans Education:

Indian-Americans, vast majority of whom are Hindu, have the highest educational achievement among the religions in America. More than three-quarters (76%) of them have at least a bachelors's degree.

By comparison, sixty percent of Pakistani-Americans have at least a bachelor's degree, the second highest percentage among. The average for Asian-Americans with at least a bachelor's degree is 56%.

American Hindus are the most highly educated with 96% of them having college degrees, according to Pew Research. 75% of Jews and 54% of American Muslims have college degrees versus the US national average of 39% for all Americans. American Christians trail all other groups with just 36% of them having college degrees. 96% of Hindus and 80% of Muslims in the U.S. are either immigrants or the children of immigrants.





Jews are the second-best educated in America with 59% of them having college degrees. Then come Buddhists (47%), Muslims (39%) and Christians (25%).

Triple Selection:

Devesh Kapur, a professor of political science at the University of Pennsylvania and co-author of The Other One Percent: Indians in America (Oxford University Press, 2017), explains the phenomenon of high-achieving Indian-Americans as follows: “What we learned in researching this book is that Indians in America did not resemble any other population anywhere; not the Indian population in India, nor the native population in the United States, nor any other immigrant group from any other nation.”

Devesh talks about what he calls “a triple selection” process that gave Indian-Americans a boost over typically poor and uneducated immigrants who come to the United States from other countries. The first two selections took place in India. As explained in the book: “The social system created a small pool of persons to receive higher education, who were urban, educated, and from high/dominant castes.” India’s examination system then selected individuals for specialized training in technical fields that also happened to be in demand in the United States. Kapur estimated that the India-American population is nine times more educated than individuals in the home country.

Summary:

Hindu Americans rival Jewish Americans in educational achievement and household incomes. Hindus in America have joined the ranks of the richest people in the United States. They account for just 1% of the US population but they are disproportionately represented in the highest income occupations ranging from top corporate executives and technology entrepreneurs to doctors, lawyers and investment bankers. Indian-American Professor Devesh Kapur, co-author of The Other One Percent: Indians in America, explains it in terms of their educational achievement. He says that an Indian-American is at least 9 times more educated than an individual in India. He attributes it to what he calls a process of "triple selection".
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No to put it bluntly. The top one per cent of Jews in America make a good portion of the total Jewish population in the world of 14 million or a tiny 0.02% of global population. Thus are are fairly representative of the Jewish people.

Compare this with possibly 1.4 billion Hindus whose cream has been scooped up and then refined further to make that figure in USA. Thus to compare Indian Americans to Jewish Americans is frankly a insult. The only thing Hindus have got going for them is gross numbers from which a few hand picked cherries have landed in USA.

Hindu Americans are about as reprsentative of general Hindu population as a African albino with IQ score of 160 is of African continent.
 
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there is a marked difference between Chinese and indians in the US. I suspect when counting Chinese they include all (good, bad, mediocre) even those that can't locate China on a map, been in America for generations. whereas most of 1.5 million pajeets are highly trained and selected. how difficult is is it to understand that out of 1.5 billion street-shitters, a million or so can be selected and trained to be pajeets?
Words from a GF
 
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Indians are one of the smartest groups in America. Why do you think the college admissions process is so competitive?

This also has to do with immigration laws as immigrants from India, Pakistan tend to be higher educated, and make more money than the average American. Go to NJ, Long Island, DMV, Texas, and Cali to see that they are virtually the top 1% of the country.
No your racist society does that, Gives privileges to brahmin. US just uses that brahmin for his society.

Most Indian immigrants tend to be upper caste.
 
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They are propping up Indians. This was all by design.

And their perception created by the media in general along with their lobbies also favors them against Pakistanis in US....

I mean a common Pakistani have to fight many battles before even he/she reach the starting line of the survival race in US....
 
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The Rule of Divide: How the IITs have wastefully consumed the higher education landscape in India

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This budget has left many wondering whether the government would be able to walk the talk, but to give Mr Jaitley his dues, the budget brings fresh news for the development of the Indian Institute of Technologies. Development, not with respect to funding(or else that would be nothing short of acceleration of the brain drain), but in terms of opportunities and emphasis on other non-technical aspects of holistic education(detailed in subsequent paragraphs). The IITs were envisaged to be the pillars of science, technology and research, bearing an unique framework for the funding and administration, distinct from other institutes and universities. Pandit Nehru, the chief architect of these institutes, formed them, envisioning these institutions to be sources of valid and vital inputs for the industrial and social roadmap of this country, which unfortunately ended up as competitive caterers to the Multinationals.

The focus of the article is to deconstruct the myth of the IITs and where they went awry, as opposed to the goals with which they were created. Massive budgetary outlays, immense corporate thrust, and the competition with regards to seats and eventually job packages, are important factors facilitating this degradation of the “premier” institutions across the country.

At his first convocation address at IIT Kharagpur, Nehru put forth his idea of the IITians expanding Indian Industry specifically from

“We take all the trouble to put up this expensive Institute and train people here” which would be “fantastically stupid” if they were to be of no service to the nation and it’s technical growth. The IITs, primarily being specialized training institutes, have always been at the feeding hand of academic-industry relations, much preferred by regulatory bodies. However these relations, took an unimaginable when students were made to consider employment as their primary goals, which multinationals and foreign technical companies began offering post liberalization of the economy. Moreover massive publicity given to students securing the highest packages, further reinforced the importance of job packages being an IITians’ foremost priorities. Moreover multinationals, consultancy services and financial bigwigs offered more lucrative salaries, luring students to move away from fields of their specialized learning at IIT. Nearly 41% of IIT Bombay graduates, who passed out before 2000,settled in the United States, some studies displaying figures of four on five IITians living in the United States. Recent trends show more migration towards Europe and South East Asian Countries, as well as an increasing number of graduates staying back. This curtailed migration can be attributed to the entry of companies like Godrej, Bajaj Auto and Videocon, hiring technical professionals on the basis of their field of study. The lure towards an MBA and a career in banking still exists rampantly amongst many IIT engineers, as again enviable money is still on offer there.


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Migration of IIT-B graduates abroad

Pandit Nehru, anticipated a narrowing focus and hence laid emphasis on turning good engineers and good men and women. The Humanities and Social Sciences Departments were crafted with the human aspect in mind. Unfortunately only 7 of the IITs, the older ones have a HSS department. Most of these departments have been established only in the last decade and a half, and have been excessively commercialized. Economics turned into mathematical modelling, philosophy into logic, and psychology into HR. Moreover as the Indian economy grew in orientation towards a service sector economy, agriculture and manufacturing took a backseat, drawing most IITians towards finance and IT jobs.

The IITs have a significant role to play in the Indian Brain Drain, with massive budgetary allocations accorded to them, increasing every year. Most of these coveted institutes, receive a lion’s share of the education budget, perpetuating the divide between these institutes and other higher education universities run by the government. These figures, only go on to increase every year validated by the creation of new IITs, which do not live upto the standards set by the older ones. Few of the newer IITs have been constructed on disputed land, in dilapidated buildings. Until the budget for FY 17-18, the share of higher education funds diverted towards the 23 IITs and 31 NITs, grew every year for five years, leading to a trim down of accordance towards other premier institutions such as Delhi University, National Institute of Science, Education and Research (NISER), and IISc.



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IITs consuming the Lion’s share of the higher education budget

Apart from the IITs, in budget 2017-18, only the Indian Institute of Management(IIM) saw an increase in it’s outlay, others being slashed massively.

The pre-election budget drawn up by Mr Jaitley and his team has some good news, with 18 new planning and architecture schools being set up, out of which 16 would be constituted in the IITs. Moreover, The allocations towards IITs have been reduced, commensurately, figures not being clear yet. Also, some students would be selected by the government to take classes for graduating batches, thus helping build a spiral generating effect. This, although falls sweet upon the ears, there’s a lot more to left to do to overcome the industry that IITs have become and cater to. Suicide Spates, Coaching Centre menaces, Increasing pressure of GPA and low funding towards research, deviated from what the Institute was supposed to create; skill development.

The IITs have their fair share of controversies around them, but still remain the most advanced technical institutes in the country. Understandably, these in institutes remain the top priority in the education sector, but to develop them at the cost of the general higher education standards in the country, would be a shame.
 
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the perception of Indians in the US is that they are all rich and highly educated.
alot of Pakistanis are like this too, but Bengalis and a good chunk of Pakistanis are middle, lower middle class.
 
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