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Top Manufacturing Nations from Now to 2020

Competitive chart is highly volatile and affected by exchange rate. it actually says india dropped from 4th place to 11th in two years.

Competitive chart only matters tp export driven manufacture model which I doubt India will adopt anytime soon due to lacks of reforms and infrastructures
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This is the next graph from MAPI again.

India's manufacturing sector came in a lot of trouble during 2012-2014.

So, from 2012 to 2014, we lost places in the rankings.

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China Solidifies Its Position as the World’s Largest Manufacturer | MAPI


The reality is that, there is very little difference in from rank 5 onwards. So, a few good years can bring India back to top 5.

Thankfully, growth in manufacturing has been restored in 2015, with a healthy 8+ growth.

Yes we should at least be in top five, I never said India can match China they are on the league of their own & one should applaud their achievement but just look at the arrogance of these people the movement they here India Vietnam etc all of there butt go up in flame

An update

As of 2014, India ranked 6th behind South Korea in terms of manufacturing value added in $s

Manufacturing, value added (current US$) | Data | Table
 
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The ENTIRE Indian mars mission was a fraud. All done by NASA on behalf of India where India took credit. Remove NASA, India won't get anywhere near mars.

Indian mars achievement my arse :lol:

I think India did the most important thing, which was to launch the payload, and deliver it in orbit.

As far as I know, NASA or other agencies provided help in tracking, a norm among many countries.

An update

As of 2014, India ranked 6th behind South Korea in terms of manufacturing value added in $s

Manufacturing, value added (current US$) | Data | Table

Generally I don't prefer comparing data of different years, from different sources. The above two data points, one posted by @rational and the later one posted by me, are both from MAPI. This one is different.

And hence, there are slight variations in data.

For example, MAPI says that China's manufacturing value added in 2013 was $2.74 trillion. The data that you gave gives a slightly different figure of $2.92 trillion in 2013.

But anyways, as I said before, the first 5 have some differences, but then it is fairly close, so rankings can keep moving up and down.

We can therefore consider ourselves in the 5-9 bracket of countries.
 
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Good, India should have been with in top 5 by now. Better latter than never.
 
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Still, India has a long long way to go before it reaches China's 2015 manufacturing output. I say maybe 30 to 35 years, but by then where would China be? This chart only measures the talent, funding, and innovation in manufacturing quality products, but not the output by country. China was ranked first because they practically make everything from pencils to Iphones to high speed trains. India is moving up the ladder due to the growth of the IT sector. The U.S. technological edge was bound to make it surpass China, but that may or may not happen in 5 years. If the U.S. does surpass China in competitiveness, China will still earn more profit as they have a much higher manufacturing output.

Once China gains that technological edge, watch it leap ahead of the U.S.
 
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theres nothing wrong in getting a transfer of technology from another country. make it quality and put banned import of that same item so your own home grown can be bought and investment.

for example your leaders says make your own products made in india or pak but the fat bas trd is driving mercedes made in germany. wear a watch made in Switzerland. has washing machine made in china, has tv made in korea, wife is too imported.

the leaders would never allow this they have this fear education makes masses dangerous or industries will develop something that influence those people away from the them

the Chinese played it clever give it to them but take a cut.
 
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theres nothing wrong in getting a transfer of technology from another country. make it quality and put banned import of that same item so your own home grown can be bought and investment.

protectionism like that screw up an industry
 
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theres nothing wrong in getting a transfer of technology from another country. make it quality and put banned import of that same item so your own home grown can be bought and investment.

for example your leaders says make your own products made in india or pak but the fat bas trd is driving mercedes made in germany. wear a watch made in Switzerland. has washing machine made in china, has tv made in korea, wife is too imported.

the leaders would never allow this they have this fear education makes masses dangerous or industries will develop something that influence those people away from the them

the Chinese played it clever give it to them but take a cut.
Like in the so called make-in-blah blah, Chinese solar panel companies earn even more. They'd like to assemble more phones, great news for East Asia manufacturing chain! With Ji's grand world tour and selfies, intentional companies across the world will suck their blood even more.
 
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Generally I don't prefer comparing data of different years, from different sources. The above two data points, one posted by @rational and the later one posted by me, are both from MAPI. This one is different.

And hence, there are slight variations in data.

For example, MAPI says that China's manufacturing value added in 2013 was $2.74 trillion. The data that you gave gives a slightly different figure of $2.92 trillion in 2013.

But anyways, as I said before, the first 5 have some differences, but then it is fairly close, so rankings can keep moving up and down.

We can therefore consider ourselves in the 5-9 bracket of countries.

Yes there are slight discrepancies between MAPI and say World Bank, though the big picture is about the same. China leads by far as the largest manufacturing nation, at a level of ~$3 trillion p.a., followed by US, Japan, Germany, SK. Then from 6th to 10th, countries are about in the same bracket.

China possess not just largest but also a full spectrum of industries. As major value adder, hi-tech is fast gaining weight, by now China leads by far in hi-tech exports ($560 billionin 2013), followed by US, Japan (note: it has vast overseas industrial assets in ASEAN, N America), Germany, SK.

World's Top 7 High-tech Exporting Nations | World Bank

As per WIPO, the top 5 industrial nations (China, US, Japan, SK, Germany, ) constitutes 82% of patent applications in 2013, and that 50~55% of industrial designs in force are in China. I expect China to maintain huge lead in overall scale, and gradually close gap on productivity/density with world top three leaders SK, Japan & Germany.
 
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Yes there are slight discrepancies between MAPI and say World Bank, though the big picture is about the same. China leads by far as the largest manufacturing nation, at a level of ~$3 trillion p.a., followed by US, Japan, Germany, SK. Then from 6th to 10th, countries are about in the same bracket.

China possess not just largest but also a full spectrum of industries. As major value adder, hi-tech is fast gaining weight, by now China leads by far in hi-tech exports ($560 billionin 2013), followed by US, Japan (note: it has vast overseas industrial assets in ASEAN, N America), Germany, SK.

World's Top 7 High-tech Exporting Nations | World Bank

As per WIPO, the top 5 industrial nations (China, US, Japan, SK, Germany, ) constitutes 82% of patent applications in 2013, and that 50~55% of industrial designs in force are in China. I expect China to maintain huge lead in overall scale, and gradually close gap on productivity/density with world top three leaders SK, Japan & Germany.

To be very frank, I don't consider this data on high tech exports reliable, because of the definition of "high tech."

They have a definition of high tech that I don't concur with.

China is very much in the lower - middle section of the manufacturing ladder.

Rather, a lot of manufacturing happening in the top and middle sector is by foreign companies.

For example, let's consider Ship Building Industry.

China has just begun to make the larger LPG ships, but still most of China's ship production are bulk medium sized carriers. Even then, many of the core components are foreign. Almost all ships use propulsion systems from either MAN, Warstila, or Rolls Royce. Same with other components.
 
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To be very frank, I don't consider this data on high tech exports reliable, because of the definition of "high tech."

They have a definition of high tech that I don't concur with.

China is very much in the lower - middle section of the manufacturing ladder.

Rather, a lot of manufacturing happening in the top and middle sector is by foreign companies.

For example, let's consider Ship Building Industry.

China has just begun to make the larger LPG ships, but still most of China's ship production are bulk medium sized carriers. Even then, many of the core components are foreign. Almost all ships use propulsion systems from either MAN, Warstila, or Rolls Royce. Same with other components.

Obviously in manufacturing, supply chain matters, that's basic knowledge. The higher the tech, the deeper is the chain, going global if it deem required (and permitted). Say Rheinmetall backing Abrams tank, and Mitsubishi in Patriot missiles. Some hi-tech were even monopolized by a single company, say T800/T1000 from Toray. Other than components, you also got capital goods in the chain like CNC, precision tooling and all sorts of foundry. And yes, on ship building you mentioned, China is go up against SK which dominated advanced LNG carriers.

When you mention foreign companies, top FDI in Mainland are from Hong Kong which accounts for an overwhelming 71.7% of all FDI (almost half of commercial real estate in Beijing, greater Shanghai and Pearl River Delta invested by HK), followed by Singapore 4.96% (e.g. Suzhou development), Taiwan 4.33% (electronics). What's foreign?


The data, interpretation, are from World Bank (like all Bretton Wood org, China is under-represented), according to which China is very much at the top rank, lead by far in overall scale of hi-tech (even far bigger than US-Japan-Germany combined). So are the patent filings data, industrial design in-force data, from World Intellectual Property Org (WIPO), China leads far ahead in overall scale.

I can understand you don't like these numbers, so what's your version on interpretation of "hi-tech", and associated data? Please share your data & analysis.
 
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Dude,you were criticizing Indians for talking about their future manufacturing prowess and now you're posting about your 'future' heavy lift launcher ?

BTW As a fellow Asian,I am delighted to see you guys developing a heavy lift launcher. :)

The ENTIRE Indian mars mission was a fraud. All done by NASA on behalf of India where India took credit. Remove NASA, India won't get anywhere near mars.

Indian mars achievement my arse :lol:

I can't even believe that two people thanked this post.Jeez....pdf is filled with imbeciles nowadays
 
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To be very frank, I don't consider this data on high tech exports reliable, because of the definition of "high tech."

They have a definition of high tech that I don't concur with.

China is very much in the lower - middle section of the manufacturing ladder.

Rather, a lot of manufacturing happening in the top and middle sector is by foreign companies.

For example, let's consider Ship Building Industry.

China has just begun to make the larger LPG ships, but still most of China's ship production are bulk medium sized carriers. Even then, many of the core components are foreign. Almost all ships use propulsion systems from either MAN, Warstila, or Rolls Royce. Same with other components.

I was about the call out this unreliable interpretation on High tech exports

Glad to see someone already did.

As you mentioned High Tech exports by definition lumps everything from manufacturing of Switchboard relays & fuses to aerospace parts.

I.e a simple product like computers is considered in the same league as aircraft engine blades. :lol:

Now common sense would dictate the fact manufacturing of aircraft engine blades is far more complicated than manufacturing a Switchboard relay, considering the former even involves 12 sigma in quality control, unlike other industries.

But for obvious reasons $ value add of Switchboard relays & fuses will be greater than engine blades, because with the ubiquity of Switchboard relays and no export restrictions at all.

Unless high tech exports is divided by sector and sophistication, it will never provide proper picture.

Another analogy here would be to assume India is better at manufacturing or sophistication than nations like Italy, UK and Russia because India's $value added from manufacturing is greater than these nations. Which is obviously very foolish to do so.
 
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I was about the call out this unreliable interpretation on High tech exports

Glad to see someone already did.

As you mentioned High Tech exports by definition lumps everything from manufacturing of electrical machinery to aerospace parts.

I.e a simple product like computers is considered in the same league as aircraft engine blades. :lol:

Now common sense would dictate the fact manufacturing of aircraft engine blades is far more complicated than manufacturing a computer, considering the former even involves 12 sigma in quality control, unlike other industries.

But for obvious reasons $ value add of earphones exports will be greater than engine blades, because with the ubiquity of computers even a lower middle class chap in some remote part of the world can afford and purchase one.

Unless high tech exports is divided by sector and sophistication, it will never provide proper picture.

Another analogy here would be to assume India is better at manufacturing or sophistication than nations like Italy, UK and Russia because India's $value added from manufacturing is greater than these nations. Which is obviously very foolish to do so.
Sir you are wasting your time you are gonna get abuse soon
 
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