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@Joe Shearer

I'll tell you what is really happening India Pakistan besides the fact that loads of old members here are all biled out. Quite some time ago. And it's really tearfully boring to respond to the next obnoxious troll who steps off the assembly line.

What is basically happening is that the proxy war is becoming background now. Except to the forces fighting it.

At a people level both sides have seriously pressing issues at home to attend to. Civil issues.

And I suspect both sides are quite epically disgusted with a section of their own, which pushed them into a proxy sympathy for the like minded other.

Thus you'll find the secular liberals getting along cross border.

You'll also find the Jihadi Sanghi dynamics conspicuous by its unspoken hands off policy, as they vent inward.

Cheers, Doc
 
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@Joe Shearer

I'll tell you what is really happening India Pakistan besides the fact that loads of old members here are all biled out. Quite some time ago. And it's really tearfully boring to respond to the next obnoxious troll who steps off the assembly line.

What is basically happening is that the proxy war is becoming background now. Except to the forces fighting it.

At a people level both sides have seriously pressing issues at home to attend to. Civil issues.

And I suspect both sides are quite epically disgusted with a section of their own, which pushed them into a proxy sympathy for the like minded other.

Thus you'll find the secular liberals getting along cross border.

You'll also find the Jihadi Sanghi dynamics conspicuous by its unspoken hands off policy, as they vent inward.

Cheers, Doc

Brilliant. Cue @jbgt90 in on this one. And tell him that Kaptaan and Last of the Patriots are good chaps; it's just that they don't like the smarmy types who insist that Indians and Pakistanis are 'just the same', when they so obviously differ in several vital respects.
 
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Third, about visiting Pakistan, that's high on my list.

Sir if you are ever in pakistan and in lahore then plz do tell me so that I can have the honor of meeting you. It would be an enlightening experience to spend an afternoon lunch with you.
 
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Sir if you are ever in pakistan and in lahore then plz do tell me so that I can have the honor of meeting you. It would be an enlightening experience to spend an afternoon lunch with you.

Thank you very much. I shall make every effort to be there - some day.
 
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@Jacob Martin my friend this is one more piece that needs to be integerated in our dialouge regarding humanism. Just make a mental note as it will come into play when we would be entering the second phase of our dialouge.

@padamchen I believe your observation regarding mutually benefitial hate-industry is correct. This requires a bit more digging to find solid gold.

My dear Watson, as you can imagine one is coming out of this psychosis of darkness while the other is just in the early stage of pseudologica fantastica.
You should know that what is concerning... it is the numbers, scope and scale... this should give the indication of the life-span of the ensuing psychosis which your nominal secularism kept in straightjacket... credit to your two instituitions. You know which one.

@scorpionx you, my good friend, would recall that we talked about a certain disblief that the two great regional powers have to this day. Such Aryan Invasion or OOI theories validate our discussion I guess.

The key here is not about being conservatie or liberal in socio-political orientation... Rather it is inate Humanism of a compassionate heart that is willing to see the other as human too... so, if the old man @Joe Shearer goes to the Land of Indus and is hanging out with @Kaptaan man's living ancient kin... it is good day for Practial Humanism. We all have to wait for the crafty professor's book to dig...if he spares the reader with his trademark wit and makes his magnum opus accessable to mere mortals.

Great that he is back... along with @hellfire ... at least now we can guage the actual senior indian thinking and views...sure helps to form practical understanding.

Regarding the thread's thesis... well... Civilisations have a tendency to mutate, transmute and transform... IVC has its polinating role... which is there without dispute. It only gets tricky when our Indian friends try to hijack Pak Heritage in the name of Hinduism which is a Pak export essentially.
Pak's being monotheists now... makes it easier. However, this is once agian was related to the dark psychosis in Pak based on religion as instruement. Happens. Pak is coming out of it now....will get there in a decade or so. India is just going in... so wait and see if anyone one of us is alive by then. Doubt it for us oldies...

What is a culture? Is it not but a collective Neurosis... played out in predictable patterns and shared habbits. Humans!
 
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@Jacob Martin my friend this is one more piece that needs to be integerated in our dialouge regarding humanism. Just make a mental note as it will come into play when we would be entering the second phase of our dialouge.

@padamchen I believe your observation regarding mutually benefitial hate-industry is correct. This requires a bit more digging to find solid gold.

My dear Watson, as you can imagine one is coming out of this psychosis of darkness while the other is just in the early stage of pseudologica fantastica.
You should know that what is concerning... it is the numbers, scope and scale... this should give the indication of the life-span of the ensuing psychosis which your nominal secularism kept in straightjacket... credit to your two instituitions. You know which one.

@scorpionx you, my good friend, would recall that we talked about a certain disblief that the two great regional powers have to this day. Such Aryan Invasion or OOI theories validate our discussion I guess.

The key here is not about being conservatie or liberal in socio-political orientation... Rather it is inate Humanism of a compassionate heart that is willing to see the other as human too... so, if the old man @Joe Shearer goes to the Land of Indus and is hanging out with @Kaptaan man's living ancient kin... it is good day for Practial Humanism. We all have to wait for the crafty professor's book to dig...if he spares the reader with his trademark wit and makes his magnum opus accessable to mere mortals.

Great that he is back... along with @hellfire ... at least now we can guage the actual senior indian thinking and views...sure helps to form practical understanding.

Regarding the thread's thesis... well... Civilisations have a tendency to mutate, transmute and transform... IVC has its polinating role... which is there without dispute. It only gets tricky when our Indian friends try to hijack Pak Heritage in the name of Hinduism which is a Pak export essentially.
Pak's being monotheists now... makes it easier. However, this is once agian was related to the dark psychosis in Pak based on religion as instruement. Happens. Pak is coming out of it now....will get there in a decade or so. India is just going in... so wait and see if anyone one of us is alive by then. Doubt it for us oldies...

What is a culture? Is it not but a collective Neurosis... played out in predictable patterns and shared habbits. Humans!

Nice post bro.

It's straitjacket.

For the doomsday prophesy implied, we'll just have to grit our teeth and wait it out.

Jo jeeta woh Sikandar.

(Who wins is Alexander)

Cheers, Doc
 
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India was the home of free folk until these Aryans came and converted all the people with force to Hinduism now they rule over them in disguise of being religious scholars (Brahmans).


Just Brilliant! A truly inspiring piece! The scintillation, nay the brilliance of this post can be gauged from the facts that:

1. Aryans were Hindus as deduced.
2. And they forced people to convert to this religion.

Am confused, Professor.
Was Hitler a Hindu, if we follow the deduction as above?

@hellfire ... at least now we can guage the actual senior indian thinking and views...sure helps to form practical understanding!

@Joe Shearer Yikes, I am not in your league!!!

@Mangus Ortus Novem Thanks for the tag .... I just could not resist a dig though.

It has been far too long that there has been a conversation worth reading here.
 
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You'll also find the Jihadi Sanghi dynamics conspicuous by its unspoken hands off policy, as they vent inward.

You actually got applauded for this statement.
Shows how the secular cabal works all over the world.

Little wonder why you lot trusted even less than the "real Jihadis" all over the world. At least the Jihadis tell you on your face why they are killing.
The seculars on the other hand pretend to be 'secular' but actually they are more Jihadi than the Jihadis & will massacre you the first chance they get. Worse, the seculars will blame you for getting massacred.

Welcome to secularistan, where the seculars will exterminate you to preserve 'secularism'.
 
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You actually got applauded for this statement.
Shows how the secular cabal works all over the world.

Little wonder why you lot trusted even less than the "real Jihadis" all over the world. At least the Jihadis tell you on your face why they are killing.
The seculars on the other hand pretend to be 'secular' but actually they are more Jihadi than the Jihadis & will massacre you the first chance they get. Worse, the seculars will blame you for getting massacred.

Welcome to secularistan, where the seculars will exterminate you to preserve 'secularism'.

Your problem, and the reason why many old members do not take you seriously, no offense, is that you are too shrill.

Dekho dekho! Suno suno! Mujhe dekho. Meri suno.

But what you post is straight out of the script of the Sangh's PR manual. Carefully researched, twisted, scripted, and word-smithed.

Are we fools here? 15 year olds?

You will be taken a lot more seriously if you just post from the heart. Your own thoughts.

You and @Soumitra come across very strongly as BJP/Sangh shills.

Look up what shill means ...

Cheers, Doc
 
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Your problem, and the reason why many old members do not take you seriously, no offense, is that you are too shrill.

Dekho dekho! Suno suno! Mujhe dekho. Meri suno.

But what you post is straight out of the script of the Sangh's PR manual. Carefully researched, twisted, scripted, and word-smithed.

Are we fools here? 15 year olds?

You will be taken a lot more seriously if you just post from the heart. Your own thoughts.

You and @Soumitra come across very strongly as BJP/Sangh shills.

Look up what shill means ...

Cheers, Doc

It's alright Jihadi Secular.
I understand your pain of being exposed thoroughly. The small Jihadi Secular Cabal you have going on here has not fooled anyone.

There is no point in pretending or hiding the obvious. We both KNOW the real truth, the real hatred & for whom the real hatred it.
Your use of the word Sanghi has not fooled anyone since you have been exposed too many times of your racist hatred towards Hindus from different parts of India.

It's fine. You are a Jhadi Secular - accept and be proud of it.
 
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It's alright Jihadi Secular.
I understand your pain of being exposed thoroughly. The small Jihadi Secular Cabal you have going on here has not fooled anyone.

There is no point in pretending or hiding the obvious. We both KNOW the real truth, the real hatred & for whom the real hatred it.
Your use of the word Sanghi has not fooled anyone since you have been exposed too many times of your racist hatred towards Hindus from different parts of India.

It's fine. You are a Jhadi Secular - accept and be proud of it.

Notice the change in tone and content when you are NOT reading from a script.

@Joe Shearer was being kind to you. Coz he's 2 decades older. Pity.

Cheers, Doc
 
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