Tonnes of tomatoes 'wasted' for fun fest in Vadodara, locals fume

[Chronos]

Agreed.

I also like abjktu viewpoint. Malyali nationalism regardless of religion, caste etc One step at a time.

 

[Spring Onion]

While they are under no legal obligation to desist from this.

Morality would dictate that this was wrong, wasting of such foods in a poor country like ours is plain wrong.

Food is not public property. Those people bought it properly, paid the money and can do with it whatever they want.

Whether you like it or not does absolutely not matter.

The protection of property is the core of any working economy.

Or do you want to declare things as public property and introduce communism into India?

In that case we might as well just call our selves a 5th world country and throw all plans of development and progress over board.


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Though the rule "their money their wish, their right" indeed seems to be to be dominating but in my personal opinion uneven/unjustified, unequal distribution of wealth is root-cause of many social and economic issues in many parts of the world including ours

 

[Makaramarma]

You telling me that every drop coming out of that drain is served as prasadam.

If you had ever been to a temple, you would know. The wastage could serve thousands of people every day.

1. It does not come out of a "drain". Every hindu is taught (or suppose to be taught) "Annam na nindyat tad vratam". It means treat you food with great respect. (from the Taittiriya Upanishad). Every drop is supposed to be given out as prasadam.

No temple I have gone to have wastages that can serve thousands. Maybe every church you went to had pedophile priests.

2. Two wrong does not make a right.

oii,you just said earlier that you are here on behalf of India..but your rantings shows other...

You are free to draw whatever conclusion based on your capacity to understand. Your limitations are not my problem.

 

[Viny]

As long as the farmers are getting their due payment for those tomatoes, such festivals are fine. After all, it's the buyer's purview about whether he wishes to eat those tomatoes or let's them rot away or squashes them in a private farm-house.

In case of scarcity where country at large is facing a challenge to meet up basic demand any logical country men should try to avoid unwanted requirements, so that a larger mass can have a share in the product that is in short supply. Having money to buy doesnt allow individual to waste the national resource, if he as direct consumption requirements without wasting the resource, then he is free to buy as much as is his requirements. But during situation like current its utter waste of national resources. People which such idiotic mindset should be penalized. Let them understand money is not everything.

 

[abjktu]

I also like abjktu viewpoint. Malyali nationalism regardless of religion, caste etc One step at a time.

Need of the hour..

 

[cybertron]

1. It does not come out of a "drain". Every hindu is taught (or suppose to be taught) "Annam na nindyat tad vratam". It means treat you food with great respect. (from the Taittiriya Upanishad). Every drop is supposed to be given out as prasadam.

No temple I have gone to have wastages that can serve thousands. Maybe every church you went to had pedophile priests.

2. Two wrong does not make a right.



You are free to draw whatever conclusion based on your capacity to understand. Your limitations are not my problem.

1. "Drain" does not need to be in quotations, because it is a drain!!.

The key word here is "supposed to". World does not work on what it is supposed to be but what it is.
Secondly I am not speaking about a single temple serving thousands, but a collective of all.
Thirdly, I've hardly been to any churches and might not be "on top" of all the experiences you might have had.

2. Exactly, but apply the same priciples while judging something, convenient to you or not.

 

[Makaramarma]

1. "Drain" does not need to be in quotations, because it is a drain!!.

The key word here is "supposed to". World does not work on what it is supposed to be but what it is.
Secondly I am not speaking about a single temple serving thousands, but a collective of all.
Thirdly, I've hardly been to any churches and might not be "on top" of all the experiences you might have had.

2. Exactly, but apply the same priciples while judging something, convenient to you or not.

Only in the strictest sense of the word, a structure to channel excess liquid. Most temples are aware of the scripture and do not waste abhishekam.

I am talking about proper temples that have prana prathista pooja done to consecrate the deity. Not road side shed with a idol in it to collect alms from gullible hindus.

Annam na nindyat tad vratam

Annam na parichaksheeta tad vratam

Annam bahu kurveet tad vratam

These are standard learnings for a hindu. Most people in India learn not to waste food, not to leave food in the plate. Most people in India learn not to insult food. Most people in India learn to multiply food.

They might not know why exactly or the Sanskrit verse of the Upanishads, but they know its essence.

 

[Chronos]

Though the rule "their money their wish, their right" indeed seems to be to be dominating but in my personal opinion uneven/unjustified, unequal distribution of wealth is root-cause of many social and economic issues in many parts of the world including ours

Inequality is part and parcel of the Human experience.

When you look at any economy that has made giant strides in growth and prosperity, capitalism has been involved. What @Koovie said is right.

we can try to convince people to be more philanthropic, but at the end of the day it is upto them to lend a helping hand.

Unequal distribution of wealth will always exist. The only thing we can do is try to make the starting point more equal. Equality n opportunity rather than outcomes.

Once you start using the law, or the government to re-distribute wealth, the plan doesn't pan out.

protection of private property, protection of private use is what led to advanced economies where they are.

Idealistic socialism has failed miserably.

 

[SQ8]

Such wastage of food. Especially in a region where tomatoes are relatively expensive and used a lot.

 

[cybertron]

Only in the strictest sense of the word, a structure to channel excess liquid. Most temples are aware of the scripture and do not waste abhishekam.

I am talking about proper temples that have prana prathista pooja done to consecrate the deity. Not road side shed with a idol in it to collect alms from gullible hindus.

Annam na nindyat tad vratam

Annam na parichaksheeta tad vratam

Annam bahu kurveet tad vratam

These are standard learnings for a hindu. Most people in India learn not to waste food, not to leave food in the plate. Most people in India learn not to insult food. Most people in India learn to multiply food.

They might not know why exactly or the Sanskrit verse of the Upanishads, but they know its essence.

Agreed. But If this is the criteria for a proper temple, then there are very less temples (atleast in kerala ) that contain such facilities or setup.

My point being, there are laxities at many places --- not just in some random urban fun festival. And no -- two wrongs dont make a right.

 

[Indischer]

In case of scarcity where country at large is facing a challenge to meet up basic demand any logical country men should try to avoid unwanted requirements, so that a larger mass can have a share in the product that is in short supply. Having money to buy doesnt allow individual to waste the national resource, if he as direct consumption requirements without wasting the resource, then he is free to buy as much as is his requirements. But during situation like current its utter waste of national resources. People which such idiotic mindset should be penalized. Let them understand money is not everything.

You sound like a vengeful socialist. Are you one though? And I don't think you understand the reason for these seasonal and cyclic price fluctuations.

Look around you man. Everybody, you included, is engaged in excesses and largesse of some kind. Why buy a gas-guzzling SUV when many Indians don't have enough to buy a cycle? Why buy a penthouse when many Indians cannot afford the rent to a single-bedroom house? Why buy an expensive designer suit when many Indians don't have enough to buy a khadi shirt?

What all will you go about penalizing? And how do you set the magnitude beyond which something is considered as 'excess'?

 

[Makaramarma]

Agreed. But If this is the criteria for a proper temple, then there are very less temples (atleast in kerala ) that contain such facilities or setup.

My point being, there are laxities at many places --- not just in some random urban fun festival. And no -- two wrongs dont make a right.

Of course this is the criteria for a temple. Where is the dispute ?

Pretty much ALL temples in India have the facility to collect abhishekam and a procedure to distribute prasadam. Pretty much all temples in kerala does the Shodashopachara of the deity and the collects are offered as thirtha, panchamrutham, naivedyam or chandanam.

Any malayalee who goes to a temple comes back with a tilak made of sandlewood paste used to bath the deity. They come back with flowers used to worship the god.

I see no laxity except in make shift temples in north India where even basic Panchopachara or archana does not take place.

 

[Viny]

You sound like a vengeful socialist. Are you one though? And I don't think you understand the reason for these seasonal and cyclic price fluctuations.

Look around you man. Everybody, you included, is engaged in excesses and largesse of some kind. Why buy a gas-guzzling SUV when many Indians don't have enough to buy a cycle? Why buy a penthouse when many Indians cannot afford the rent to a single-bedroom house? Why buy an expensive designer suit when many Indians don't have enough to buy a khadi shirt?

What all will you go about penalizing? And how do you set the magnitude beyond which something is considered as 'excess'?

Are all those things that you quoted are basic essential consumable commodities?
Does every house hold goes out to buy SUV be it at a daily bread earner?

By buying a pent house or SUV you are not taking away anything from mass market, its not an essential consumable commodity.

 

[faisal6309]

Kharidny waly khush

Bechny waly khush

To inko kia masla ha?

 

[Indischer]

Are all those things that you quoted are basic essential consumable commodities?
Does every house hold goes out to buy SUV be it at a daily bread earner?

By buying a pent house or SUV you are not taking away anything from mass market, its not an essential consumable commodity.

Do you have any idea how much of India's agricultural produce gets wasted even before it reaches the consumer on average? It's 40% according to UN estimates. When millions of tons of essential commodities are getting wasted and not enough has been done, gunning for someone who brought a few hundred kgs of tomatoes at market prices is an indication of hypocrisy and selective dispensation of justice. Mind you, I'm not condoning their actions, but neither am I supporting any extra-judicial action against them.

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