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Tokyo Olympic 2021: Discussion and Update

Think what you want. I've said it 3 times already yet you keep tossing it aside like it means nothing without showing a shred of proof. In the meantime, I've shown you that statistically, the country that leads in total amount of medals would also be scoring very high in gold as well. The scenario that someone brought up of 50 silvers and no gold is absurd and you and he knows it. The US and even China are the best examples of that but obviously more so the US with a very evenly distributed count of all the medals but also with the highest gold count only by 1, mind you, and to its biggest rival in the great nation of China which makes it even sweeter. Some like you folks would claim this is the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat but that couldn't be further from the truth.

China should be SUPER PROUD of its achievements as it has performed record performances in certain events that will stay as records for decades to come. That is no easy task. That's also one of MANY accomplishments you Chinese folks can take with you from this terrific Olympics instead of crying unfair and bias and claiming only gold is the winner! You people have won so much more than just gold it's right in front of your eyes that Xi Jinping should be VERY PROUD of every single Chinese competitor in this event.

Did you bother to find out what the reasons were? Maybe you should look into that first, Beijing instead of just assuming foul play, my friend. It's about introducing new events while keeping the number of athletes at the same so they don't get overwhelmed, not because they have a vendetta against China!! That's ridiculous since China would not be the only one affected by that but rather all the weightlifters, even if they don't win as much as China.

Have you ever tried to swim the butterfly stroke? Well I have and actually won it in my high school sporting event as a junior and I can tell you, it is one of the (if not the) most difficult swimming strokes to perform, and so the degree of difficulty makes it enticing enough to include it as a medaling event. You might disagree and you have that right I respect but I disagree completely.

I'm proud of the Chinese athletes for their performance but Twitter is basically going crazy with the amount of gloating from conservative muricans. Anything Chinese say is a justified counterattack against insidious slander.

BTW, I understand that butterfly stroke is hard, but they refuse to add so many different weightlifting exercises to the Olympics that are just as different from clean/jerk and snatch as the butterfly stroke is from the freestyle. For example, they don't have deadlift, squat or bench. How come butterfly stroke is worthy of a separate event but deadlift isn't? In fact, they dropped the clean and press. That's one example of silent bias.
 
I'm proud of the Chinese athletes for their performance but Twitter is basically going crazy with the amount of gloating from conservative muricans. Anything Chinese say is a justified counterattack against insidious slander.

BTW, I understand that butterfly stroke is hard, but they refuse to add so many different weightlifting exercises to the Olympics that are just as different from clean/jerk and snatch as the butterfly stroke is from the freestyle. For example, they don't have deadlift, squat or bench. How come butterfly stroke is worthy of a separate event but deadlift isn't? In fact, they dropped the clean and press. That's one example of silent bias.

I hear ya and I perfectly understand the frustration. I always try to put myself in the other's shoe and then see how I would feel and react and I did that in this case and felt the same way you and other Chinese members felt, basically almost like being singled out to have less of a chance to succeed.

I that case, I hope the Chinese Olympic Institution (or whatever entity is the embodiment that represents China in these games) puts together a legitimate complaint and issues it to the Olympic board and forces them to make the changes. Go about it through the appropriate channels and who knows, maybe there will be something done or a different type of setting that helps China compete more and have a more equal chance if it feels slighted.

At any rate, I fully admire what China has done in this Olympics holding on to the Gold lead for 99% of the games!!! That is a feat unheard of and congratulation to it for winning 2nd best in overall and more importantly for those athletes that were demoralized for winning silver instead of Gold, I hope someday they look back and realize they were waaaaaaay to hard on themselves and didn't need to feel one ounce of shame and quite the contrary, they should wear that silver medal with full honor to their nation and what a great nation it is. No one needs to tell then that, least of all me. Cheers.
 
IMO this is one of the worst Olympics I ever witnessed.

Many of the Judges were biased, unprofessional and not up to their marks e.g. boxing, gymnastic, etc

In the future, they should used AI to judges instead of human.
 
Tokyo Olympics: Projected medal table, Team GB medallists and international stars to watch
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Tokyo Olympics: Projected medal table, Team GB medallists and international stars to watch
Last updated on20 July 202120 July 2021.From the sectionhttps://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics
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I think they were slioghtly off.

Just saw this thought it was pretty funny I think we could all use a good laugh at this point. :-)

 
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Too late. The challenge was immediately forwarded to the Fate Gods and they have happily accepted it.
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Talk about jinxing it..best to learn to shutup!





Yeah, well I think the Chinese should have been concentrating on nicknames for themselves...like "chokers" or better yet "best total losers" since China didn't beat the US in ANY of the Gold, Silver, or Bronze categories. :coffee:



I hope you all feel stupid now for counting chickens before they are hatched.

Oh and let's make sure to post pics of the Yahoo medal count page that the Chinese members kept referring to over and over and over.


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We came out on top in both. Funny how that turned out!




Up next...the previously happy and ecstatic Chinese members suddenly do a 180 and post stories about how they were robbed throughout the Olympics by corrupt Anglo-Saxon judges and how this has been a horrible Olympics for Chinese viewers to watch since Day 1 due to obvious anti-China hate...and numerous other excuses. :rolleyes1:

Grand opening grand closing

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According to the Chinese here, the Chinese Olympic team should now be referred to as second place losers.

This is the Chinese logic
 
According to the Chinese here, the Chinese Olympic team should now be referred to as second place losers.

This is the Chinese logic



Liu Shiwen (r), along with her teammate Xu Xin (l), lost to the Japanese team in the table tennis mixed doubles' competition at the Tokyo Olympics

Liu Shiwen (r), along with her teammate Xu Xin (l), lost to the Japanese team in the table tennis mixed doubles' competition at the Tokyo Olympics

"I am sorry to you all," said Liu Shiwen, a Chinese table tennis player who, along with her teammate, lost to the Japanese team in the sport's mixed doubles' competition at the Tokyo Olympics.
She issued this tearful apology after losing the game, adding: "I feel like I have failed the team."

Liu is not the only Chinese athlete who apologized after losing a match. A similar apology was also issued by Wang Luyao, who failed to qualify for the 10-meter air-rifle shooting.

She posted a selfie on Weibo, a popular microblogging platform in China, and wrote that she felt sorry for letting everyone down. She deleted the post after receiving numerous angry comments. "How dare you post a selfie after losing a match?" a netizen wrote.

Another example is that of Li Junhui, who won a silver medal with his partner Liu Yuchen in the badminton men's doubles final last Saturday. "I'm sorry. We tried our best but let everyone down," he wrote on Weibo.

Li made the statement after the Taiwanese badminton duo Lee Yang and Wang Chilin prevailed over him and his partner. It was the first gold medal in badminton for "Chinese Taipei," the official name of Taiwan at the Olympics.

After the match, Li and Liu faced severe backlash. The reaction on China's social media was extremely aggressive.

Many Chinese nationalists accused the players of not performing well enough. "Do not insult the name of 'China,' shame on you" a netizen vented his fury online.

'It's like a war, they must win'

Athletes apologizing for not meeting public expectations is very common in China. However, rising geopolitical tensions between China and other countries seem to have contributed to an increase in the number and intensity of angry nationalistic comments even further.

Xu Guoqi is a professor and an expert in the history of globalization at the University of Hong Kong who has published a book about China and sports. He pointed out that the Chinese government provides funds to train athletes. Therefore, they are expected to perform well, and it becomes their responsibility. "It's like a war, they must win," he told DW.

Xu stressed that China's view of international sports events is different from that of Western countries. "It is all about nationalism," he said, adding that China wanted to show the world that it is rich and strong by performing well in sports events.

Xu noted that China's nationalism reached its peak during the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

Anxious to show China is great and strong

Tobias Zuser, a lecturer at the Global Studies Program at the Chinese University of Hong Kong, also said that there is a common view that Chinese athletes' top responsibility is to serve the nation.

Zuser found that compared to the times of previous Olympic Games, Chinese nationalism may have had more momentum this year given the current geopolitical climate. "The rise in anti-China rhetoric in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic has certainly contributed to this nationalism," he told DW.

"China may want to prioritize the domestic political agenda, showcasing the dominance of their own citizens and underlining the superpower narrative," Zuser added.

Chuang Jia-Ying, an associate professor at National Taiwan Normal University, also shares a similar view.

She said China's global image had taken a hit because of the country's offensive diplomatic strategy in recent years. Therefore, nationalistic Chinese are anxious and trying to show the world that the country is great and strong.

In China, the extremely nationalistic people are called "little pinks." Chuang explained that these people are internet-savvy young netizens who are good at using tools to bypass Chinese internet censorship to express their nationalistic thoughts online.

"The number of them is growing, and it is a new way to mobilize nationalism," she added.

Trolling foreign athletes and Taiwan celebrities

Chinese athletes, however, are not the only ones in the firing line of China's trolls.

Japanese gymnast Daiki Hashimoto, who won the men's all-around gymnastics gold medal, was called a "national humiliation" by Chinese netizens.

The Chinese nationalists accused the judges of being unfair by inflating Hashimoto's score on the vault.

The criticism led the International Gymnastics Federation (FIG) to issue a rare statement confirming that the judging was "fair and accurate."

Another Japanese athlete, Mima Ito, was also targeted by Chinese netizens on social media after she and her partner Jun Mizutani defeated the Chinese duo to claim gold in the table tennis mixed doubles' competition.

Ito and Mizutani claimed that they had received verbal abuse and death threats online.

Zuser explained that the Chinese targeting the Japanese is not a new trend since both China and Japan are historic foes.
Nevertheless, public expectations in China are relatively high this year, and there seems to be more at stake when it comes to national pride.

The trolling launched by nationalistic Chinese people also extended to the entertainment industry. Taiwanese TV host Dee Hsu and Taiwanese pop star Jolin Tsai have both become the latest targets of the trolling.

Hsu celebrated Taiwanese athletes' achievements in an Instagram post and called them "national players." It was interpreted as supporting Taiwan's independence by Chinese netizens.

Meanwhile, Tsai congratulated Taiwanese athletes' victory by sharing their photos on her Facebook page. She was blamed by Chinese netizens for not showing support for China's Olympians.
China views Taiwan as part of its territory, and tensions between the two sides have been running high over the past few years.

Athletes concerned about trolling

It still remains unclear whether the trolling during the Olympics reflects the growth of nationalism in China.

But athletes from other countries now appear to be more concerned about being targeted by Chinese netizens.

German table tennis player Dimitrij Ovtcharov, for instance, posted a photo on his social media account stating that it was very tough to win against Taiwan and that he would face Japan the following day on August 3.

Some of China's netizens left comments under the post saying that Taiwan should be called "Chinese Taipei." Two hours later, Ovtcharov edited the post and deleted the words "Taiwan" and "Japan" without further explanation.
 
The swimmimg isn't as lopsided as he makes it out. Yes, the US won 11 golds...but the Aussies won 9. That isn't medal dominance compared to some of the other events.

I would say that is quite competitive with a difference of only 2 medals.

Like I told him, it's must be an indoctrinating way of dealing with these young Chinese athletes to perform their best by making them think that nothing matters but the gold medal which I think is absolutely terrible. If they feel ashamed and like they let down the great country of China because they got a silver or bronze medal is just down right shameful. There's a huge reason why there is 1st, 2nd and 3rd prize winners and they each have their merits and there's nothing wrong with getting a silver or a bronze medal in the most difficult competitions in the world! lol. Amazing.

You should see the greetings the Egyptian athletes got at the airport. The ones that got silver and bronze were celebrated just as much as the one(s) that got gold. It was an honor to have medaled at the greatest world wide games, not a dishonor!?!? That's just nuts.

Hey that chick from Cambridge that won silver in the marathon is probably gonna get her own parade and ride the fire truck with a huge police escort LOL!
 
UK athletes caught doping. :mad:


Tokyo 2020: is China going to boost its Olympic medal tally with 4x100m bronze?
  • Chinese quartet could be in line for medal as Team GB, who finished with silver, sees runner provisionally banned
  • Relay team would make history as first from China to win an Olympic 4x100m relay medal
China’s 4x100m relay team react after they find out that they finished fourth in the Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games final. They could be boosted to bronze. Photo: Xinhua

China’s 4x100m relay team react after they find out that they finished fourth in the Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games final. They could be boosted to bronze. Photo: Xinhua

China could be in line for a late addition to its Tokyo 2020 medal haul after the Athletics Integrity Unit announced a provisional ban on British sprinter Chijindu Ujah over suspected doping.

The body announced that there were adverse findings in the tests of 27-year-old Ujah, who ran the opening leg for Team GB’s 4x100-metre sprint quartet as it was narrowly beaten by Italy and claimed Olympic silver ahead of Canada last week.

China’s team of Su Bingtian, Asia’s fastest man; Tang Xingqiang; Wu Zhiqiang and Xie Zhenye beat Jamaica to claim fourth place behind Italy, Great Britain and Canada.

Depending on the outcome of testing on Ujah’s B-sample, Britain could be stripped of its silver medal in what would be the biggest doping scandal in British Olympic history if the suspension is upheld. Canada could then be in line to be promoted to silver, with China awarded the bronze medal.

Ujah would be given the opportunity to explain how the banned substances got into this system, but could also face a four-year ban.

“The result was reported by the Wada-accredited laboratory of Tokyo on 8 August 2021,” said the International Testing Agency, which collected Ujah’s sample in Tokyo. “The athlete has the right to request the analysis of the B-sample.

“If requested by the athlete and if the B-sample analysis confirms the adverse analytical finding … the case will be referred to the anti-doping division of the court of arbitration for sport for adjudication.

“It will consider the matter of the finding of an anti-doping rule violation and the disqualification of the men’s 4x100 relay results of the British team,” it added.

An amendment to the result would mean the Chinese foursome would make history as the first 4x100m relay team from the country to claim an Olympic medal.
China’s Wu Zhiqiang crosses the line in fourth in the final of the 4x100m relay. Photo: Xinhua

China’s Wu Zhiqiang crosses the line in fourth in the final of the 4x100m relay. Photo: Xinhua

The potential new result would not affect the final medal table, as the internationally recognised methodology of medal counting only initially considers gold medals.

It would, however, take China’s 2020 Games medal tally to 38 golds, 32 silvers and 19 bronze medals, solidifying the performance as China’s best overseas Olympics campaign.
 

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