Time to warn Taiwan secessionists and their fomenters: war is real: Global Times editorial

[FairAndUnbiased]

Taiwan has been a part of China since the 1600s, before there was even a US. This is about national reunification not conquering new lands.

Exactly. If US could get away with straight up conquest then retaking Taiwan is not a worry for south Korea.

 

[tower9]

That's some stories that circulated apparently back in 2012 on the worst period of the crisis and it's not abandoning or selling. The foreign media somehow used to portray crisis Greece as a central African country or Venezuela,but I can assure you that is far from the truth.

As for my friend,is this so hard to believe? You know the difference in the exchange rate of the Yuan and the Euro.

The exchange rate means nothing and you know it. What matters is the cost of goods on the ground. The Yen is 110 Yen to a dollar, does that make Japan dirt poor? How about South Korea's 800 to a USD? I can't believe you are even arguing on these grounds.

Your subjective story from your friend is humorous at best. The reason why he was being stared at is because he is lugging around huge amounts of cash in a CASHLESS society. If someone in the US had a brick of $100 bills, he'd be stared at too.

 

[Apollon]

That's a funny story. People were staring because China is now a cashless society. No one carries around cash, and certainly not that much.

Do you have any idea how rich China's urban centers are? Definitely more wealth and luxury than most European cities.


China certainly doesn't see Europe as its enemy and stays out of Europe's business. It's Europeans who are constantly sticking their nose in Chinese matters like this thread and other threads.

Try to see it from my point of view. Greece is a democracy that values freedom and the individual. For me it would be absolute horror if i had to live in a unfree society or dictatorship. I understand why people in Taiwan dont want this to happen.

In my opinion it should stay like it is. Its best option for all sides involved.

And as you can see, i issue my opinion politly and dont insult.

 

[Foinikas]

The exchange rate means nothing and you know it. What matters is the cost of goods on the ground. The Yen is 110 Yen to a dollar, does that make Japan dirt poor? How about South Korea's 800 to a USD? I can't believe you are even arguing on these grounds.

Your subjective story from your friend is humorous at best. The reason why he was being stared at is because he is lugging around huge amounts of cash in a CASHLESS society. If someone in the US had a brick of $100 bills, he'd be stared at too.

I'm arguing because you guys bragged about how bad EU economy is and how China stronk and trillions of billions of assets etc

Also I've said it above,it was really 2010 to I think mid-2010s . I don't think you were this super-evolved cashless society back then.

 

[tower9]

Try to see it from my point of view. Greece is a democracy that values freedom and the individual. For me it would be absolute horror if i had to live in a unfree society or dictatorship. I understand why people in Taiwan dont want this to happen.

In my opinion it should stay like it is. Its best option for all sides involved.

And as you can see, i issue my opinion politly and dont insult.

I personally can understand why Taiwan wants independence and I do not fault them for it. My grandfather was actually KMT and worked for the ROC govt, so my family was on the losing side of the civil war. They just fled somewhere else, and not Taiwan.

However, at the same time, he supported eventual reunification of Taiwan and China because we are still Chinese after all. So I can understand why Mainland China will never allow an independent Taiwan.

That's why the current situation is best. Just stick to the red lines and rules and let future generations figure it out.

 

[aziqbal]

Taiwan has been a part of China since the 1600s, before there was even a US. This is about national reunification not conquering new lands.

then Native Americans should get America back right ?

what kind of communist logic is this we owned it 100s of years ago so we get it now

Taiwan is officially known by the World as the Republic of Taiwan

its goods are marked as Made in Taiwan it means quality

no matter how loud China shouts Taiwan will not be part of China

any sign of force and US and its allies will come in including UK

 

[tower9]

I'm arguing because you guys bragged about how bad EU economy is and how China stronk and trillions of billions of assets etc

Also I've said it above,it was really 2010 to I think mid-2010s . I don't think you were this super-evolved cashless society back then.

You confuse me with someone else. I never said anything about the EU economy.

But again, your anecdote about your friend is funny.

Here is a Canadian vlogger based in Chongqing, one of many cities in China. Does this look like a 3rd world country to you? Yeah, most urbanites in China are just as or more wealthy than most parts of Europe. The perceptions that they are 3rd worlders is based on circumstances from 15-20 years or more ago and are no longer relevant. China has advanced very rapidly.

then Native Americans should get America back right ?

what kind of communist logic is this we owned it 100s of years ago so we get it now

Taiwan is officially known by the World as the Republic of Taiwan

its goods are marked as Made in Taiwan it means quality

no matter how loud China shouts Taiwan will not be part of China

any sign of force and US and its allies will come in including UK

You can say whatever you want, but your opinion doesn't matter. Only the opinions of the Chinese people matter in this regard.

 

[Mandalorian_CA]

RISE OF THE DRAGON

 

[tower9]

then Native Americans should get America back right ?

what kind of communist logic is this we owned it 100s of years ago so we get it now

Taiwan is officially known by the World as the Republic of Taiwan

its goods are marked as Made in Taiwan it means quality

no matter how loud China shouts Taiwan will not be part of China

any sign of force and US and its allies will come in including UK

Oh BTW if Native Americans had the military power to reclaim their lands and wanted to, they certainly have the right to. But they don't, so that's not an issue.

 

[Foinikas]

Here is a Canadian vlogger based in Chongqing, one of many cities in China. Does this look like a 3rd world country to you? Yeah, most urbanites in China are just as or more wealthy than most parts of Europe. The perceptions that they are 3rd worlders is based on circumstances from 15-20 years or more ago and are no longer relevant. China has advanced very rapidly

Bro I never said China is a third world country. Don't misinterprete it like that. Someone above snubbed EU economy compared to China and I think EU in general and I was like "are serious,mate?"

By the way,Apollon is way democratic,
I'm more of a royalist myself I prefer the "ancient regime",like the French call it.

 

[tower9]

Bro I never said China is a third world country. Don't misinterprete it like that. Someone above snubbed EU economy compared to China and I think EU in general and I was like "are serious,mate?"

By the way,Apollon is way democratic,
I'm more of a royalist myself I prefer the "ancient regime",like the French call it.

Well I wasn't paying attention to your guys' conversation until you talked about how people were staring at your friend with cash.

Let me tell you, if I was waving a stack of hundred dollar bills in any big American city, not only would they stare, but I'd get my *** kicked and money stolen in two minutes. LMAO

 

[Apollon]

Well I wasn't paying attention to your guys' conversation until you talked about how people were staring at your friend with cash.

Let me tell you, if I was waving a stack of hundred dollar bills in any big American city, not only would they stare, but I'd get my *** kicked and money stolen in two minutes. LMAO

I dont have any cash and mostly use google pay. XD

 

[tower9]

I dont have any cash and mostly use google pay. XD

You have ghetto thugs killing people for sneakers here so that won't even save you in those situations lmao

 

[zectech]

If US is involved in the Strait war, it will not only lose its position in Asia, but lose it in the whole world. Because US is really a paper tiger now. People are afraid of it because it looks like a tiger. When it loses a war with China, people will not be afraid of it anymore. As a result dollar will lose its credit. The whole US empire will collapse.

Matter of fact, aircraft carriers are really vulnerable in modern war.

usa is a economic paper tiger, the whole thing is a facade. Like going to a theme park and seeing some giant castle and being in awe, and then approaching the castle, you realise the castle is only cheap Styrofoam. usa economy is a fake, inflated and weak economy that survives on threats, blackmail, bribes and war. For that usa wants to destroy the competitor China to loot China and be the only supa powa economy. China wins everyday, because China's economy is real and much larger than the us economy. The fake data out of Washington is there to keep the usa peasants from revolting about how sh*tty the usa economy is. Look at the fudged unemployment numbers and faked inflation numbers. Everybody knows these are faked. What is not as well known is the gdp is also faked.

While not so paper tiger militarily. usa goons in Washington stated that Washington is ineffectual at fighting terrorists, yet can do shock and awe to topple governments. The retreat in Afghanistan was trumps plan to pivot to Asia. trump and biden don't give a hoot about Afghanistan and want to see the people suffer more.

You don't want to trigger the usa into a conflict without vastly overwhelming force that can win the war. The only way for Japan to win WWII, was to invade the mainland of America and destroy the MIC (military industrial complex) (or to invade Russia and let the Germans win Russia and tag team against uk and usa with Germans). usa was in a war with the Soviets for 45 years and did not back down. These are psychopaths who have no concept of losing. As these individuals lose, it becomes more deadly. So long as China is unable to occupy the whole of the usa to stop the usa MIC, China loses. China needs 10X the combined forces of the rest of the globe in a conflict with usa.

Don't mistake the sh*tty usa economy for a sh*tty usa military. The entire economy serves MIC empire. It is a military economy and more money is spent on military than is even on the Washington budget sheets.

The great error of the Chinese is to mistake the muricans for the Japanese. "The Japanese are enemies of the Chinese, therefore the muricans would act the same. China was able to defeat the Japanese, so it would be easy to defeat Washington."

And the Washington plan is to strangle China from resources and trade, to trigger a war like the usa did to Japan with oil embargo. Japan miscalculated. Japan needed much more military equipment such as naval units to dominate the usa. If China is only defending her zone, and getting shocked and awed at shipyards and factories and airfields, etc. And China is only focused on defending her Western Pacific, then like during WWII, the entire usa warmachine is gonna churn out naval and air units to destroy China.

Which is why to get involved in a war with usa, China needs total dominance.

China's military is for defending from aggressors. To survive and defend. If China strikes due to baiting, usa war exhaustion is gonna be less than a usa first strike. This is why usa false flags and lies their way into nearly every war, to get the war Washington wants and to play the victim so there is less chance of revolts and protests at home because "Murica wuz attcked"

Dollar would be replaced by bitcoin, Washington own 30 years of Chinese full GDP in bitcoin. Qanon trumptards and wall street banksters own another 50 years of Chinese full GDP (100 trillion yuan) in bitcoin = to 5000 trillion yuan. usa is begging the globe to replace dollars with bitcoin.

Ways for China to win by defending the Western Pacific and not invading mainland usa:
(1) Occupy South Korea
(2) Invade and occupy India and hold India
(3) Defeat the Japanese SDF and take out us bases in central and western pacific
(4) Defeat the Australian Navy

And those are highly risky. China's military is for defense. Not large enough for those operations. And even with a force 10X larger than the rest of the globe combined, those would be hard fought conflicts. Simply taking Taiwan is not enough to sue for peace with usa when war starts. usa does not give 2 sh*ts about Taiwan or Afghanistan. The prize is China and a Versailles Treaty imposed on China to loot China of hundreds of trillions of yuan, perhaps 1000s of trillions of yuan. So that is what is risked with war with usa. China currently is a trading empire, none can rival her. China is currently a economic empire than none can rival her. And for these reasons usa is jealous and can't handle there not being a war with China. Peace makes Washington trolls lose their minds.

China possessing overwhelming forces would cause usa to back down from a war, yet would try to bully China economically.

So China risks her economic prowess with a war with Taiwan.

The next 5 year plan has to taken into account that trump released a bioweapon to start a race war with China; and build up vastly past the numbers of the usa.

And like for Iran, it would be unwise to get into a war when usa has hypersonic and newer stand off missiles and no defenses against these. This is the window that Washington is waiting for to have a war with China. So quickly develop something like an S-500 and S-600 and S-700 class ADS to protect key targets like shipyards and naval bases.

 

[Beast]

Spain is a democracy, china is a dictatorship. Its that simple. Taiwan is a democracy and obviously has no intention to fall under a one party dictatorship

LoL.. a democracy that don't give other a choice. It's a name only. Western are good in hypocrisy only.

The 3 gorges dam of course is not nuclear proof. Infact it can easily be destroyed by normal thermobaric weapons. Once its breached, the river rips the entire structure down.

You obviously have no idea how physics work.

And yes, we have a say in asia, after all Europe is one of the most powerful economies on the planet.

China wont touch Taiwan.

Yes, EU is so powerful that they recognised one China policy and refuse Taiwan independent. Bravo!