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[Indx-techs]

Congratulations. You have earned the most deluded Indian title on this thread. Your response is so laughable that we don't even want to debate anything.

LOL, is tbis the best comeback you could come up with? When I state anything, I don't do it out of hot air.

Economic complexity index - Wikipedia

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IFI Rankings - 2023 | IFI CLAIMS

View the IFI annual ranking of top U.S. patent recipients by recipient and country.

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1. U.S. 155,982 patents
2. Japan 54,422
(Greater China 22,372)
3. South Korea 20,201
4. Germany 17,752
5. Taiwan 12,575
6. China 9,004
7. Canada 7,492
8. U.K. 7,167
9. France 7,026
10. Israel 3,804
11. India 3,415
12. Italy 3,090

Bangladesh 2

Pakistan 16

Sri Lanka 7

WIP:
India: 45658
Pak: 883

Why are you trying so hard to prove it right the other thread running, "indians have the smallest brains in the world"...Hyderabad university survey.

And it also points to the fact that small brains have big egos.

Or people who have thin skin and big chip, as indians are described by one esteemed Dawn writer.

A counter-argument would have been appreciated over an ad-hominem which is usually given just for the sake of response.

In any case, calling out me isn't going to help deluded fanboys spamming "we gave chance to India" all over here. Always end up in memes. I never said that India is some sort of superstate but said Pak is an incompetent state which is irrefutable by most measures.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

We are appeasing a racist fascist lunatic.

Not the right way

It is a good strategy... didn't PM IK said he was ready to talk to the PTM, and all that Pashtun right movement based on sympathy and disenfranchised people fizzled out... 3 of them were in NA.

This has defanged the PTM rhetoric of exploitation of Pashtuns by showing the people that this is not true.

Here too, this will show, and sow the divide between peaceniks and the war mongering hawks and bigots in India.

India is not one united homogeneous nation, there are different voices.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Always end up in memes. I never said that India is some sort of superstate but said Pak is an incompetent state which is irrefutable by most measures.

Pakistan holding its ground against India which is 6.5 times bigger than Pakistan that is Pakistan population is just 15% of India makes it capable and competent enough.

And for 60 plus year of its independence, Pakistan per capita, other indices were far ahead of India, only the WOT has resulted the otherwise.

Don't remember Pakistan bragged about it earlier.

Still ahead in some/many indices. Don't want to go into details.

 

[arjunk]

India is currently pouring thousands to millions of settlers into Kashmir. The number is estimated to be 1/3 of IoK's population. The hopes of a peaceful resolution to the conflict with a referendum are slowly fading away. It is up to India whether they want Kashmir to end peacefully or violently. Pakistan is giving them one last chance to accept peace.

My personal opinion is, that once Amit Shah or Yogi become PM India will become a total warmongering Hindu dictatorship. They are three years before this happens.

Now, after 26/11, everything is changed! Now most of the Indians do not want any talk with Pakistan. If they are ready to bury Kashmir issue and ready to work on other pending issues then might it will be break-through.

Otherwise, stance is very clear at our end. We will not discuss anything about on Kashmir and will never take back 370s A or anything . Now, ball is in Pakistan's court:

1. If Pakistan wants to maintain the same status quote - (Indians are happy)
2. If Pakistan wants a WAR - (No issue -we are ready)
3. If Pakistan wants to burry past and move forward on Kashmir. - (it is a welcome decision, we are more happy and wanted to move forward and resolve the other pending issues)

Now unsure, what Pakistan government is expecting from Indian government? If they think that Indian government is going to remove article 370 from Kashmir then it will be a foolish thought.

I beg to differ. After Abhinandan was captured and MKi was shot down, Indians were begging Pakistanis for his return and went full sem2sem mode. The Indian military was in no condition to respond either. As for terrorist attacks, Pakistan should start doing more airstrikes on Indian terrorist training centres like it did in 2019. That way Hindu nationalists and BLA/TTP militants will be taken care of.

 

[Indx-techs]

Pakistan holding it's ground against India which is 6.5 times bigger than Pakistan that is Pakistan population is just 15% of India makes it capable and competent enough.

India's policies aren't centred around Pak. A large part of India's military are built up of strategic forces which sale in Indian Ocean, Southeast Asia and sometimes Central Asia. Then a large part of territorial forces and limited to China border. Pakistan deals with rest of forces, not entire Indian force at all.

And for 60 plus year of it's independence, Pakistan per capita, other indices were far ahead of India, only the WOT has resulted the otherwise.

Pakistanis were largely involved on production of textiles and secondary fodders which earned them more profit then India's basic crops. Soon as India started to build industries, things turned reverse.

Don't remember Pakistan bragged about it earlier.

Used to actually.

Still ahead in some/many indices. Don't want to go into details.

There are some indeed but list is quite limited and even declining in many cases or is just exceptional case.
For instance, underweightness but because a third of Indians are vegetarians and even rest are highly selective of meal.

Since Indians have more purchasing power and wealth, rest are reversing too.

 

[khansaheeb]

Pakistanis hated the Indians so much that we became as shrewd as them, and the Indians hated Pakistanis so much they became myopic religious nutjobs.

Whaat an apt description of the BJP - 'myopic religious nutjobs"

 

[N.Siddiqui]

There are some indeed but list is quite limited and even declining in many cases or is just exceptional case.

Pakistan defence industrial base better than ours: Army vice chief

Lt. Gen. Sarath Chand, Vice Chief of Army Staff (VCOAS), said the ordnance factories have not been able to keep pace with changing technology while "there is no competition whatsoever" and it is "an unsuccessful method of supporting our defence requirements".

indianexpress.com

For Pakistan first thing first was the survival against a much bigger enemy, has to focus on defence, at any cost.

In combating multi dimensional hunger, Pakistan is doing better.

India ranks 94 in Hunger Index, below Pakistan, Nepal and Bangladesh

India ranked 94 among 107 nations in the Global Hunger Index 2020 and was in the 'serious' hunger category with experts blaming poor implementation processes, lack of effective monitoring, siloed approach in tackling malnutrition and poor performance by large states behind the low ranking.

www.tribuneindia.com

The study revealed that 14% of world adults constituted the middle class in 2015 and held 32% of world wealth. The share of middle-class adults in Pakistan’s total adult population of 111 million was 5.7% in 2015 as opposed to India’s 3% and Australia’s 66% in 2015.

Pakistan has 18th largest ‘middle class’ in the world: report | The Express Tribune

Pakistani adult must have wealth of between Rs1.5 million and Rs15 million to qualify for middle class

tribune.com.pk

That makes Pakistan doing twice as better in middle class income indices than India.

The thing is indians are a bit delusional about Pakistan as the only news taken as truth is coming from controlled Indian media, or Godi media.

A bad image portrayed of Pakistan makes India look better, also helps in getting the rave reviews and political point scoring. Makes Indian government looks good even with failures.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Pakistan defence industrial base better than ours: Army vice chief

Lt. Gen. Sarath Chand, Vice Chief of Army Staff (VCOAS), said the ordnance factories have not been able to keep pace with changing technology while "there is no competition whatsoever" and it is "an unsuccessful method of supporting our defence requirements".

indianexpress.com

For Pakistan first thing first was the survival against a much bigger enemy, has to focus on defence, at any cost.

In combating multi dimensional hunger, Pakistan is doing better.

India ranks 94 in Hunger Index, below Pakistan, Nepal and Bangladesh

India ranked 94 among 107 nations in the Global Hunger Index 2020 and was in the 'serious' hunger category with experts blaming poor implementation processes, lack of effective monitoring, siloed approach in tackling malnutrition and poor performance by large states behind the low ranking.

www.tribuneindia.com

Sorry don't derail the thread by posting Off-topic. Also, do you realize that Pakistan rank is 88 and Rank of India is 94........ .But population difference is 1.366 billion (India) and 216.6 million (Pakistan).

Now I don't want to convert in Ratio. Request you to convert and find the realities. Thank you.

Please stay on topic.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Sorry don't derail the thread by posting Off-topic. Also, do you realize that Pakistan rank is 88 and Rank of India is 94........ .But population difference is 1.366 billion (India) and 216.6 million (Pakistan).

Now I don't want to convert in Ratio. Request you to convert and find the realities. Thank you.

Please stay on topic.

This is the percentile taken, population doesn't makes it any different. If the number of hungry people is counted on population basis, India would be at the top.

Replying to that Indian guy...who talked about indices.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

@Raj-Hindustani

It is clearly not written in the above mentioned linked and attached report. Where it is written in above link or anywhere else.

Must be some Indian source...give the link.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

@Raj-Hindustani

It is clearly not written in the above mentioned linked and attached report. Where it is written in above link or anywhere else.

Must be some Indian source...give the link.

Please find the link.

Pakistan has serious level of hunger, ranks 88th in 107 countries

LAHORE: Pakistan lags far behind almost all countries in the region in the Global Hunger Index – a tool that gauges undernourishment, stunting and weight of children to assign...

www.thenews.com.pk

I hope, we will stay on topic.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Please find the link.

Pakistan has serious level of hunger, ranks 88th in 107 countries

LAHORE: Pakistan lags far behind almost all countries in the region in the Global Hunger Index – a tool that gauges undernourishment, stunting and weight of children to assign...

www.thenews.com.pk

I hope, we will stay on topic.

Read the report, nowhere it is mentioned what you have written earlier...

What you have attached said Pakistan rank is 88 out of 107 countries.

India rank is 94 out of 107 countries...

You are giving fake figures ...

It's OK, by the way.

 

[Vapnope]

Anyone thinking Pakistan doesn't pose any threat to India needs a psyche evaluation. Despite the general disparity in number and quality weapon in Indian favor, Pakistan still can cause painful damage to her adversaries in conventional domain. There is a reason that Brasstacks was called off in 1987, there was still a concern when Op parakram was called off in 2001, or Aerial attack in 2008 were canceled then came 2019 when despite everything India decided not to escalate things.

The threat from Pakistan is so "non existent" that Indian state have been reaching out to Russia, France, Sweden, US, Germany and other countries not to sell any weapon to Pakistan. Moreover the attempt to economically Isolate Pakistan has been a constant theme in BJP's government.

Indian junta and some military experts think that they have sorted out Pakistan and it is walk in the park for their military expedition however after now and then a nasty punch from Pakistan reminds them that they haven't.

That being said, the statement from COAS and state of Pakistan is bound to be taken as a weakness by hawks in Delhi and we all know that. Only time will tell if this was a statement from position of weakness or the last attempt before final showdown.

 

[Jobless Jack]

Diplomatic statement.

Peace is not possible. War is inevitable.

Indians said goodbye to peace when they elected Modi XI

Sad!

 

[ejaz007]

Repeated statements of peace from military gives a wrong impression. Why is our military desperate for peace?