Tibetan refugees returning to China: In addition, no one is coming

[Kai Liu]

No. Those who eat slumdogs will. That's why you get so ugly.

We don't eat slumdogs... We just kill them... Already killed 5,000+... Stinking as hell...No one dare to eat them...

 

[Joe Shearer]

We don't eat slumdogs... We just kill them... Already killed 5,000+... Stinking as hell...No one dare to eat them...

Impossible. You must be eating them. Nothing else could explain the looks and the stink.

@Jackdaws

I'm beginning to understand. Like taking candy from a baby.

 

[Kai Liu]

No. Those who eat slumdogs will. That's why you get so ugly.

Those who eat slumdogs will get ugly and stinking.... Slumdogs are really the most ugly and stinking creatures... We must kill them all to clean the planet...

 

[Joe Shearer]

Those who eat slumdogs will get ugly and stinking.... Slumdogs are really the most ugly and stinking creatures... We must kill them all to clean the planet...

At the end of it, you will look and smell like them. And then half of you will eat the other half.

@Jackdaws

It's the monotonic (not monotonous) predictability. Like skeet shooting.

 

[Dungeness]

I am revising the figures, to include the support echelons, as someone will accuse me of cooking the books; the originals are crossed out, so that readers can see precisely what I'm doing.

1 Infantry Battalion = 1000 instead of 500 (rather than the four companies plus HQ staff, counting 15 per section, 45 per platoon, 135, even 180 per company, 6 companies, say, 1,080 per battalion)
3 battalions + support - communications, medical, logistics - or
1 Brigade = 3,500, and
1 Division = 3 Brigades + 4,500 support = 15,000



I regret to inform you that the limitation is yours. Here are the figures; see for yourself, and please hereafter refrain from copying the circle of baying dogs that bark out these figures by rote. I have, personally, a higher opinion of you than that, and hope that the figures will shock you into a realisation of how stupidly irresponsible and wholly concocted numbers have been taken up and misused.

Command: Northern Command (Udhampur)

Corps: XIV - Leh - Defence of Siachen,
Defence of Line of Actual Control (China),
Defence of LOC (Kargil)
Division: 3rd Infantry Division - Leh = 10000 (3,000):
Division: 8th Mountain Division - Dras = 30000(6,000):
1 Independent Infantry Brigade = 5000 (Siachen)

45000

Corps: XV - Srinagar -
Defence of LOC, Jammu and Kashmir
Counter-insurgency
Division: 19th Infantry Division - Baramula = 15000(4,500):
28th Infantry Division - Gurez = 15000(4,500):
Rashtriya Rifles (for COIN operations only)
Victor Force (13 x 600 =) 7800
Kilo Force (13 x 600 =) 7800

45600
(including all the cooks, clerks, drivers and mechanics, medical staff, telecommunications staff, military police, you name it)

Corps: XVI – Nagrota
Defence of LOC,
Defence of International Border
Counter-insurgency
Division: 10th Infantry Division – Akhnoor 15000 (4,500): 3 Infantry Brigades + 25th Infantry Division – Rajouri 15000 (4,500): 3 Infantry Brigades + 39th Infantry Division – Yol 15000 (4,500): 3 Infantry Brigades ++ Rashtriya Rifles (for COIN operations only)
Romeo Force (13 x 600 =) 7800
Delta Force (13 x 600 = ) 7800

60600
Notes:

1. Some information has been restricted; independent artillery brigades have been shown, but other independent brigades attached to the Corps reserve have not been shown.
2. The + and ++ signs are approximate increases in numbers of independent brigades that have not been shown.
3. The Corps wise numbers are:
   1. XIV Corps - 45000 +
   2. XV Corps - 45600 +
   3. XVI Corps - 60600 +
4. Rashtriya Rifles are drawn from all combat arms of the Army. Additional formations of RR battalions have been raised in each regiment, and it is these that are assigned Counter-insurgency duties. They are all regimental troops.
5. There are 65 battalions of 600 men each. They are divided into Victor, Kilo, Romeo and Delta, and an additional Uniform Force.
6. The total, including specialist Counter-Insurgency troops, is slightly over 70,000 men. I am informed by Kaptaan that the Pakistanis, not the Indians, invented '0'; that might explain the discrepancy, of 70,000 vs. 700,000.

This discrepancy is why I feel irritated by senior people who don't pause to do their homework but just pick up whatever silly figure is floating around and throw it into a discussion.

PS: I was asked by a reviewer to include Central Armed Police and J&K Armed Police (not regular police); that would add 100,000 rifles.



I really feel sorry for you, dealing with that r*tard. Congratulations on keeping your sense of humour throughout the encounter.

Joe, Nice work you have done here, but I am sorry to tell you that you miss the whole point.

"700,000" is quoted by your friends and foes, and it merely indicates the disproportional armed force dispatched in Kashmir, which in turn indicates the disproportional violence and bloodshed there. I am not interested in counting the exact number of rifles there, nor do most people care.

My point is very clear, China's Tibet is a much safer place than India's Kashmir. So keep this in mind when you feel the urge to mock on Tibet next time.

 

[Kai Liu]

At the end of it, you will look and smell like them. And then half of you will eat the other half.

Don't worry too much, slumdogs, there are 1.3 billion of you... Still a long way to go to kill you all and get the planet cleaned..

 

[Joe Shearer]

Joe, Nice work you have done here, but I am sorry to tell you that you miss the whole point.

My point was simply to remind you that you owe it to yourself not to parrot propaganda.

"700,000" is quoted by your friends and foes, and it merely indicates the disproportional armed force dispatched in Kashmir, which in turn indicates the disproportional violence and bloodshed there. I am not interested in counting the exact number of rifles there, nor do most people care.

Might I point out that a similar exercise would reveal the shocking disparity with your own figures in Tibet?

My point is very clear, China's Tibet is a much safer place than India's Kashmir. So keep this in mind when you feel the urge to mock on Tibet next time.

Honestly, if we used Chinese methods, Kashmir too would be as quiet as the grave. No mockery here, just an acknowledgement that a dictatorship can do that the worst run democracy would flinch from.

Don't worry too much, slumdogs, there are 1.3 billion of you... Still a long way to go to kill you all and get the planet cleaned..

Not worried at all, it is a question of time before you turn on each other.

 

[Kai Liu]

My point was simply to remind you that you owe it to yourself not to parrot propaganda.



Might I point out that a similar exercise would reveal the shocking disparity with your own figures in Tibet?



Honestly, if we used Chinese methods, Kashmir too would be as quiet as the grave. No mockery here, just an acknowledgement that a dictatorship can do that the worst run democracy would flinch from.



Not worried at all, it is a question of time before you turn on each other.

But still 5000+ slumdogs were killed by us...You slumdogs should feel sad...

 

[Dungeness]

Honestly, if we used Chinese methods, Kashmir too would be as quiet as the grave. No mockery here, just an acknowledgement that a dictatorship can do that the worst run democracy would flinch from.

"Democracy" is becoming the last refuge for all lost causes. The tactic has been deployed by so many here time and time again. I guess the notion "open society with a closed mind" applies to India's best as well.

 

[Joe Shearer]

But still 5000+ slumdogs were killed by us...You slumdogs should feel sad...

No, we don't. Now we have 1.38 billion slumdogs joining us. Stink a little more, perhaps, because of the meat diet....

"Democracy" is becoming the last refuge for all lost causes. The tactic has been deployed by so many here time and time again. I guess the notion "open society with a closed mind" applies to India's best as well.

That may be right, that may be wrong, that is not what I wrote to you about, it is a distraction.

Once again, I repeat, don't re-cycle moth-eaten propaganda and denigrate yourself. It is said to you with humility. I am convinced that you have got the point, but do not wish to lower your guard in public. That is also OK.

 

[Dungeness]

No, we don't. Now we have 1.38 billion slumdogs joining us. Stink a little more, perhaps, because of the meat diet....



That may be right, that may be wrong, that is not what I wrote to you about, it is a distraction.

Once again, I repeat, don't re-cycle moth-eaten propaganda and denigrate yourself. It is said to you with humility. I am convinced that you have got the point, but do not wish to lower your guard in public. That is also OK.

Not really, you have not convinced me that Kashmir is a safe place than Tibet that would give you a higher moral ground to mock on Tibet, but I guess you would use "dictatorship vs democracy" to defend all India's problems. The number I quoted was from your own Indian "propaganda", if it is how you view Indian media". So the discussion is not converging. I would leave it as is.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Not really, you have not convinced me that Kashmir is a safe place than Tibet, but I guess you would use "dictatorship vs democracy" to defend all India's problems. The number I quoted was from your own Indian "propaganda", if it is how you view Indian media". So the discussion is not converging. I would leave it as is.

Sure, if you wish. The number is nowhere mentioned in Indian media, except as quotations from the usual Pakistani sources, and some crisis-nurtured elements who make a living out of human misery. It is always trotted out by some Pakistani or the other, in spite of showing them these figures on this forum three times before.

If you read from the beginning, there was never any effort at equating Kashmir and Tibet, there was only an objection to swallowing the Goebbels-speak as is where is. Nor has there been any use of dictatorship vs. democracy to defend all India's problems; you may be confusing my posts and those by that eminent member, Nilgiri.

The discussion was not, from my point of view, to converge; it was to place certain irrefutable facts before you, and to earnestly and sincerely beg you to cease and desist.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

GDP per capita 5500 USD of China Tibet vs India 1670 USD.

I like to live in Tibet myself!
India= no thanks!

 

[Kai Liu]

No, we don't. Now we have 1.38 billion slumdogs joining us. Stink a little more, perhaps, because of the meat diet....



That may be right, that may be wrong, that is not what I wrote to you about, it is a distraction.

Once again, I repeat, don't re-cycle moth-eaten propaganda and denigrate yourself. It is said to you with humility. I am convinced that you have got the point, but do not wish to lower your guard in public. That is also OK.

https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-the-Chinese-have-body-odor
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/why-do-indian-people-often-smell-so-bad-1133935/

 

[Jackdaws]

Despite of your regime change, your government couldn't fix anything but leave hundred millions live under the poverty line, your nation is nothing but a laugh stock of century. Border is also the red line that people know that they shouldn't cross, violate the rule then prepare for the penalty.

LOL - We all know how China has been and continues to be a source of amusement for the civilized, democratic world.
And Indian poverty rates have declined sharply and this is not done by killing the poor through schemes like "Great Leap Forward" and "Cultural Revolution" or as one of your fellow Chinese posters here claimed "Controlled killing" or whatever.
That's now how it works in democratic countries - to reduce poverty, we don't kill people. All this must be eye-opening to you - am sure.
And no - you can shoot people who might be entering your country illegally - no one shoots people leaving their country - well, at least not in the civilized, democratic world.