Tibet torture video: Rediff

[Communist]

Living Buddha: Dalai Lama's so-called "middle way" unacceptable

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Shingtsa Tenzinchodrak (R), a living Buddha of Tibetan Buddhism and head of the delegation of the Tibetan deputies to China's National People's Congress, answers questions by reporters in Toronto March 20, 2009. The delegation arrived in Toronto on Friday after their six-day visit to the United States. (Xinhua/Yuan Man)

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Shingtsa Tenzinchodrak (C), a living Buddha of Tibetan Buddhism and head of the delegation of the Tibetan deputies to China's National People's Congress, answers questions by reporters in Toronto March 20, 2009. The delegation arrived in Toronto on Friday after their six-day visit to the United States. (Xinhua/Yuan Man)

TORONTO, March 20 (Xinhua) -- The Dalai Lama's so-called "middle way", which has the idea of "Greater Tibet" as one of its key contents, is not acceptable to the Chinese government, a living Buddha said here Friday.

"The so-called 'middle way' rhetoric of the Dalai Lama sounds very attractive, but in fact it is problematic," Shingtsa Tenzinchodrak, a living Buddha told a press conference.

The Dalai Lama has, in recent years, been telling the world he has stopped seeking "Tibet independence" and turned towards a "middle way". But the Chinese officials and scholars said the so-called "middle way" in fact still aims at "Tibet independence."

Shingtsa Tenzinchodrak said one of the key contents of the "middle way" was to establish a so-called "Greater Tibet", which would cover not only the Tibet Autonomous Region but also all other Tibetan-inhabited areas in China.

"In total, it would cover one fourth of China' entire territory," said Shingtsa Tenzinchodrak, head of a five-member delegation of Tibetan deputies of China's National People's Congress, which is in Canada for a visit.

The idea of "Greater Tibet" has long been advocated by the Dalai Lama and his followers. In his March 10 speech, the Dalai Lama again talked about bringing all Tibetans under "a single autonomous administration."

Shingtsa Tenzinchodrak, who has spent years studying Tibetan history, said the so-called "Greater Tibet" was not a historical fact and does not fit reality.

The 59-year-old living Buddha said Tibetan-inhabited areas outside Tibet have never been under the administration of Tibet's local government in history.

Before Tibet was peacefully liberated in 1951, the jurisdiction of the local Tibet government did not exceed the current area of the Tibet Autonomous Region, he said.

"If one knew some Tibetan history, he or she would know how ridiculous the idea (of Greater Tibet) is," Shingtsa Tenzinchodrak said.

In addition, Shingtsa Tenzinchodrak said the Dalai Lama has also asked the central government to withdraw troops and exclude other ethnic groups from the area of the "Greater Tibet."

The Dalai Lama demanded, in his "five-point peace plan" in 1987and the "seven-point new suggestions" in 1988, the Chinese troops and military facilities be withdrawn from Tibet. He also demanded to stop the Han ethnic group from settling in Tibet, and that those who have already settled in move out.

"If such conditions were met, will there still be sovereignty (for China)?" Shingtsa Tenzinchodrak said.

The Qinghai-Tibet Plateau has been an area of ethnic convergence for centuries.

Under the existing ethnic autonomous system in China, besides the provincial Tibet Autonomous Region, Tibetans have autonomous regions of city, county and township levels in neighboring provinces. They co-exist with autonomous regions of other ethnic groups and non-autonomous divisions.


Living Buddha: Dalai Lama's so-called "middle way" unacceptable _English_Xinhua

 

[Communist]

Dalai Lama's "Greater Tibet" neither historical fact nor fits in reality: experts


BEIJING, March 14 (Xinhua) -- As the 14th Dalai Lama again talked about bringing all Tibetans under "a single autonomous administration" in his March 10 speech, Tibetologists here questioned the legitimacy and feasibility of his plan.

"Greater Tibet", long advocated by the Dalai Lama and his followers, was not a historical fact nor fitted in the reality, said Prof. An Caidan with the China Tibetology Research Center.

The "single" administration, as the Dalai Lama proposed, would cover today's Tibet Autonomous Region, the whole Qinghai Province,parts of Sichuan, Yunnan and Gansu provinces.

As Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi said at a press conference on March 7, the Dalai Lama wants to establish "Greater Tibet" in one fourth of China's territory.

No regime in Lhasa has ruled this whole area since the Yuan Dynasty (1271-1368), An said.

In the 13th century as the Mogul united several kingdoms in China, Tibetans joined in the empire whose capital was Dadu, Today's Beijing.

The central government then divided the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau into three administrative regions. All of them were ruled directly from Dadu, instead of Lhasa, An said. "The central government registered residents, collected tax, deployed armies and implemented national laws in the three regions."

"I think, the three administrative regions were set up based on different tribes and subcultures among Tibetans. This is the real origin of the three Tibetan dialect areas, U-Tsang, Kham and Ando."

The Han emperors of Ming Dynasty, who replaced the Mogul emperors to rule China between the 14th and 17th century, followed the Yuan's old way to administrate the plateau.

After the Manchu Emperors of Qing Dynasty, who originated in northeast China, took over the Chinese empire in the 17th century, the plateau's administrative divisions developed much like today's, An said.

"The boundaries of Tibet, Sichuan, Qinghai and Yunnan were drawn in 1726 and 1731. They were very close to today's."

Under the Qing Dynasty, the area of today's Tibet Autonomous Region was divided into even smaller regions: the Dalai Lama's administrative region, the Panchen Lama's administrative region, the region of the central government's representative official and several small manors granted by the Emperor to local lords.

"It was after 1912 when republicans overthrew the empire, that the Dalai Lama's army seized most of what is today's Tibet Autonomous Region but Lhasa's rule was still much smaller than the14th Dalai Lama wants now," An said.

"The country of Tibet" made up of U-Tsang, Kham and Ando, as the secessionists' claimed, never existed, he said.

The Qinghai-Tibet Plateau has been an area of ethnic convergence for centuries. The birth place of the 14th Dalai Lama in eastern Qinghai was home to several ethnic groups including Tibetans in the first century. When he was born, Tibetan, Hui and Han families lived side by side in the village, he said.

"If the 14th Dalai Lama was a real wise man, he would understand the close and interlaced connections among different ethnic groups that formed in the plateau's long history," An said." He should not call other ethnic groups 'invaders' and undermine the ethnic harmony for the sake of politics."

Under the existing ethnic autonomous system in China, besides the provincial Tibet Autonomous Region, Tibetans had autonomous regions of city, county and township levels in neighboring provinces. They co-exist with autonomous regions of other ethnic groups and non-autonomous divisions, a flexible solution to the multi-ethnic regions.

"It is not practical to bring all Tibetans into a single administrative region," said Sun Hongnian, a researcher with Center of China's Borderland History and Geography Research under the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences. "What about people of Han and other ethnic groups that lived on the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau for generations? What about Tibetans who live in the habitats of Han and other ethnic groups?"

According to his research, Sun said the idea of "Greater Tibet" emerged after 1912. The regional government of Tibet argued with the central government for more land, backed by Britain who then governed India and wanted Tibet to be split from China.

At a meeting at Simla (Now Shimla) in then British India between 1913 and 1914, British officials reached a deal with Tibet's regional government representatives: the British side would force China's central government to agree Tibet's "independence" and give about 1 million square kilometers of land in neighboring provinces to Tibet. In return, Tibet would give 90,000 square kilometers of border land to British India, according to Sun.

The deal failed because the central government representative refused to sign the agreement at the meeting, he added.

The 14th Dalai Lama, labelled by some as "one of our few true moral authorities", has stuck to the same scheme for decades.

"I think, the Dalai Lama and 'Tibetan government-in-exile' inherited the same concept," Sun said. "This concept also helped them unite and ease conflicts among different interest groups of Tibetans in exile as they came from different parts of the plateau."

At the March 7 press conference, Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi said the difference between China and the Dalai Lama has nothing to do with religion, human rights, ethnic relations and culture.

"It is an issue of whether to defend China's unity against attempts to separate Tibet from China," he said.


Dalai Lama's "Greater Tibet" neither historical fact nor fits in reality: experts_English_Xinhua

 

[Communist]

Tibet's average GDP per capita sharply higher due to Democratic Reform


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Click on the link to see Graphics which shows the figure of the Tibetan people's living standards, quoting a white paper titled "Fifty Years of Democratic Reform in Tibet" issued by the Information Office of the State Council, or China's cabinet on March 2, 2009. (Xinhua/Zhou Yongmin)


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Click on the link to see a Tibetan farmer Nyima who works in the field in Dagze county near Lhasa, southwest China's Tibet Autonomous Region, March 11, 2009. As the weather gets warm, farmers in Tibet begin to prepare for the spring ploughing. (Xinhua/Gong Bing)


BEIJING, March 21 -- Since Tibet implemented Democratic Reform 50 years ago, its economic development has made considerable progress and average GDP per capita has continuously reached new highs.

When Democratic Reform was initiated in Tibet in 1959, the GDP of the whole area of Tibet was just 174 million yuan and average GDP per capita was only 142 yuan. Democratic Reform has liberated Tibet's productivity to a tremendous extent. In particular, with the Central Government's kind-hearted care and the selfless assistance of the whole nation since reform and opening-up, Tibet's economy has had considerable development with average GDP per capita continuously reaching higher levels.

In 1989, Tibet's average GDP per capita reached 1,000 yuan for the first time. The figure grew to 5,000 yuan in 2001 and broke the 10,000 yuan threshold in 2006.

In 2007, Tibet's average GDP per capita amounted to 12,109 yuan, up 12.6 percent year-on-year. In 2008, the figure reached 13,861 yuan, up 9 percent year-on-year. This was an increase of 13,719 yuan compared with 1959.

Over the past 50 years, Tibet has placed importance on increasing the income of farmers and herdsmen, continuously improving policy measures to support and benefit agriculture, making unique agricultural and animal husbandry economies become important sources to increase the income of farmers and herdsmen. In recent years, as the Qinghai-Tibet Railway opened to traffic, the number of Tibetan farmers and herdsmen who earn a living from tourism has constantly increased. The structure of farmer's earnings has begun changing, and the sources of earnings have become increasingly diversified.

Before Democratic Reform, Tibetan farmers and herdsmen basically had no income. In 1978, per capita income of Tibetan farmers and herdsmen was 175 yuan, in 1985, the figure jumped to 500yuan for the first time. In 1997, it broke the 1,000 yuan mark, and in 2005, it passed the 2,000 yuan mark. In 2007, per capita income of Tibetan farmers and herdsmen reached 2,788 yuan, an increase of 2,613 yuan compared with 1978, marking an annual average growth rate of 10 percent. In 2008, per capita net income of Tibetan farmers and herdsmen reached 3,176 yuan, up 13.9 percent year-on-year and maintaining double-digit growth for six years in a row.

Tibet's average GDP per capita sharply higher due to Democratic Reform _English_Xinhua

 

[Communist]

Tibet a far better place thanks to CPC reforms

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Click on the link to see nice Girls of the Tibetan ethnic group attending a festival in Nyingchi, southwest China's Tibet Autonomous Region, July 17, 2008.(Xinhua/Purbu Zhaxi)

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Click on the link to see Followers of the Tibetan Buddhism arriving in Lhasa, capital of southwest China's Tibet Autonomous Region, in November 2007, after a long worship road by practising kowtow to express their most honest heart to the Buddha.(Xinhua/Soinam Norbu)

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Click on the link to see how Ngamai Cering (L), a 117-year-old woman of the Tibetan ethnic group, is with her great granddaughter Cering Medog in southwest China's Tibet Autonomous Region in March 2008.(Xinhua/Chogo)

BEIJING, March 20 -- The democratic reforms adopted in Tibet have been a half century-long campaign aimed at clearing away religious-political rule and liberating millions of suppressed serfs across that sacred land.

The sweeping democratic reforms, led by the Communist Party of China (CPC), allowed the majority serfs of old Tibet to become their own masters and created favorable conditions for Tibetan prosperity and ethnic autonomy.

Previously, serfs were bonded to overlords and enjoyed no personal freedom. The three major estate-holders - local administrative officials, aristocrats and upper-class monastery lamas - made up five percent of Tibet's population.

However, they controlled all of the region's land and livestock, while serfs and slaves, who accounted for 90 percent of the population, held no means of production.

This theocratic rule plunged Tibetan people deep into wretched poverty.

In 1951, the central government and the local Tibet authority signed the 17-Article Agreement on Tibet's peaceful liberation.

The agreement allowed the local government of Tibet to launch self-initiated reforms without any central government intervention.

The CPC and the central government strictly abided by the agreement from May 1951 to March 1959 and helped local authorities push forward democratic reforms.

But they encountered strong opposition from Tibetan serf owners, who flew the banner of ethnicity and religion in order to cling to their privileged rule.

On March 10, 1959, the upper-class reactionary groups in Tibet, under the instigation and support of some imperialist forces, openly announced the abolition of the 17-Article Agreement and launched an all-out armed uprising aimed at splitting the motherland and permanently preserving feudal serfdom in the Himalayan region.

With the unreserved support of local people, the People's Liberation Army quickly put down the revolt and successfully safeguarded national unity.

On March 23, then Premier Zhou Enlai signed a State Council decree, dismantling Tibet's local government the same day and setting up an organizing committee to prepare for the establishment of an autonomous region.

In accordance with local conditions, the central government launched a series of democratic reforms, ranging from reducing or abolishing heavy tax burdens on serfs and slaves, to allocating them long-deprived land plots and other means of production.

All these and other measures played an important role in promoting Tibet's social progress and economic development.

The two years of democratic reforms, concluded at the end of 1961, helped bring Tibet to the stage of steady development. The establishment of the individual ownership system in the wake of serfdom has brought tangible economic benefits to newly liberated serfs. In September 1965, the Tibet Autonomous Region was formally set up, paving the way for an all-out regional ethnic autonomy in the Himalayan region.

Ironclad facts indicate that, under the leadership of the CPC, Tibet's democratic reforms and adoption of socialist and ethnic autonomy brought unity and common prosperity.

Since the adoption of these reforms and autonomy, Party leaders Mao Zedong, Jiang Zemin, Deng Xiaoping and Hu Jintao have consistently paid great attention to Tibet and extended great care to Tibetan people.

A series of preferential polices and flexible measures adopted by them have created favorable conditions for Tibet's stability and development and inspired the initiative and creativity of Tibetan people in building their homeland.

Remarkable economic achievements have been made in Tibet since 1959.

It has set up a comparatively developed modern industrial system and a convenient communication network of roads, railways, pipelines and aviation.

The region's education system, medical care, science and technology have also benefited from increasing cooperation with the Han people and other ethnic groups.

In particular, the cultural heritage of Tibet has been well preserved in the region and local people's religious freedoms are fully respected and protected.

The great achievements made by the Tibet Autonomous Region can in part be attributed to the relentless support of the central government and selfless assistance of people throughout the country.

The crackdown on the March 14 riot in Lhasa last year contributed a lot to the current stability, development and unity enjoyed by Tibetan people.

The history of Tibet's development over the past 50 years proves that the CPC and its effective policies are infinitely more preferable than the exploitation and oppression of the previous overlords.

Tibet has been part of China since ancient times and anyone committed to splitting it from China's territory is doomed to fail.

The author is vice-chairman of the 11th National Committee of Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference.

Tibet a far better place thanks to CPC reforms _English_Xinhua

 

[rubyjackass]

Dude communist!!!
You have exceptional abilities to spam...
We get it...
Spare us.

 

[Communist]

Dude communist!!!
You have exceptional abilities to spam...
We get it...
Spare us.

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Click on the link to see Higher standard of life: Tibetan villagers dance during a celebration before moving into new houses in Lhasa, recently. Some 3,12,000 farmers and herders from 57,800 families had moved from shanty homes to solid brick houses in Tibet under a government-subsidised housing project aimed at improving living conditions.

The Hindu : International : Tibet on road of rapid uplift: N. Ram

 

[indiatech]

Watch your mouth and feed your fellow starving citizens first, Indians like you should be ashamed by damaging our planet.

uhh, you now want to shut my mouth like a billion chinese mouth are already shut by the communists in china.

What do you want? some kind of honour/prize for killing the tibetans ?

 

[indiatech]

don't derail the thread...stick to the topic.....If you sympathize with Iraq issue..start new thread...


tx
PS:On the second thought China was member of UNSC...what did it do to stop this...

the big brother china offers 2.6 million for the sunami victims, their huge navy seemed not even interested to lend a help, while indian warships were as far as indonesia, maldives etc providing drinking water and help.

The big brother is an useless power when it comes to showing humanity or helping the human race. Their first ever attempt to fight pirates in Somalia looks more like stunts than help.

Believe in actions as much as you believe in words. To know how it feels like being in cold water, you will need to atleast take a dip in it.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

now after watching these two videos i would rather live in communist china then so called worlds biggest democracy Bharat.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

The big brother is an useless power when it comes to showing humanity or helping the human race. Their first ever attempt to fight pirates in Somalia looks more like stunts than help.

why do you want to embarrass yourself? now wasn't it the IN who showed of front of the world became the attention bad girl front of the media when they faked an encounter with thai fishing boat and claimed to have destroyed pirates mother ship! they were the one at first place to have created a desperate public stunt.

 

[indiatech]

now after watching these two videos i would rather live in communist china then so called worlds biggest democracy Bharat.
6kProCZageY[/media] - Indian Military Beating Kashmiri Teenagers

if that makes u happy , then please

it will solve decades of problems.

Remember in China an Imam can't go out of a Mosque and speak in public and are being continuously watched by the communists. Every step of theirs and every bit of their life is under the radar of the communists.

Still choose china ?

 

[Beyond]

the truth about tibet:
(video comes from youtube)

The Dalai Lama and Human Rights - YOU be the Judge
(video comes from youtube)

 

[Communist]

if that makes u happy , then please

it will solve decades of problems.

Remember in China an Imam can't go out of a Mosque and speak in public and are being continuously watched by the communists. Every step of theirs and every bit of their life is under the radar of the communists.

Still choose china ?

Who told you that? Why should i believe that whatever you are lecturing is true?

 

[godsavetheworld]

Who told you that? Why should i believe that whatever you are lecturing is true?

It is true. Shocking isnt it?

Human Rights Watch: China's repression against Muslims

And the biggest Irony is that Chinese are doing in the name of "crushing Muslim incline towards extremism" when on the other hand, their die hard ally Pakistan pratices it as a state policy

 

[Gabbar]

COMMUNIST CHINA'S POLICY OF OPPRESSION IN
EAST TURKESTAN

http://www.harunyahya.com/e_turkestan01.php

China entered the twentieth century as the remains of an empire fragmented and crushed under pressure from especially Britain, France, Germany, Japan and Russia. After imperial rule had been overthrown, no powerful central authority was established for decades. When the Communist Party came to power in 1949, China soon turned into a state of fear. That process cost the lives of tens of millions of people because of the repressive and totalitarian methods the communists used to enforce their bloody ideology. The Chinese Communist Party resorted to violence to remain in power, and implemented one of the most savage and ruthless form of communism ever, enforcing one single way of living and thinking for the entire Chinese people. Throughout that period, those who refused to abide by the rules of their communist leaders were ruthlessly exterminated.

It is commonly assumed that the savage implementation of communism has come to an end. People no longer receive food in return for vouchers, no longer are required to wear uniforms, nor suffer torture because they are unable to learn Mao's "Little Red Book" by heart. Yet communism, adapted by the regime to the new world order, is still alive and well in all its ruthlessness.

In the eyes of the Communist Party, people are of value only as long as they can produce, and are allowed to think only within boundaries set by the Communist Party. They can freely express only thoughts in harmony with the party. The labor camps that exist through China, the system that humiliates and exploits millions of people in those camps, the mass executions in full public view, the torture methods widely employed in the prisons and the sale of the internal organs of those condemned to death, all reveal the ugly face of the communist administration. Despite all this, however, for the last 20 years a number of media outlets have been spreading the propaganda that China is rapidly preceding down a liberal and democratic path. One important point is often ignored: The fact that China has moved to capitalist practices in the economic field and has opened its gates to foreign investors in a number of areas, does not mean that there has also been a change in the country's political structure and ideology. On the contrary, the inhuman practices still common demonstrate that nothing has changed in the mentality of the ruling Communist Party. This will be clarified with a great many examples in subsequent chapters of this book.

PLEASE CLICK ON THE LINK, IF WANT TO READ MORE... SPECIALY YOU COMMUNIST.