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[Windjammer]

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So where is that "black smoke" from engine? .... I didn't see here.

Are these new engines now? ...the flame colour was looking good

 

[Goenitz]

So where is that "black smoke" from engine? .... I didn't see here.

Are these new engines now? ...the flame colour was looking good

hmhm... no smoke but still flame is not blue....

 

[Windjammer]

So where is that "black smoke" from engine? .... I didn't see here.

Are these new engines now? ...the flame colour was looking good

The black smoke usualy appears when the afterburner is not engaged and even then during some atmospheric conditions.....here as you see even in idle thrust, there's no smoke.

 

[Khafee]

The black smoke usualy appears when the afterburner is not engaged and even then during some atmospheric conditions.....here as you see even in idle thrust, there's no smoke.

Screw the smoke, as long as it's doing it's job, and it's good at it, to hell with the smoke.

 

[Windjammer]

Screw the smoke, as long as it's doing it's job, and it's good at it, to hell with the smoke.

People don't realise that even some of the latest fighter jets are not immune to this issue, here Russia's latest aircraft the Pak FA T-50 is having a bad day.

 

[Khafee]

People don't realise that even some of the latest fighter jets are not immune to this issue, here Russia's latest aircraft the Pak FA T-50 is having a bad day.

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Because we have keyboard warriors here, not real life warriors like Sir @Indus Falcon who sat in a fox hole for three days wounded, but didn't give up. Then threw his comrades body on his shoulder, and on one leg limped 9~10kms to a village in the sialkot sector. People need to re-channel their energies into positive developments, instead of useless jibber jabber.

 

[MastanKhan]

Screw the smoke, as long as it's doing it's job, and it's good at it, to hell with the smoke.

Hi,

I don't undertsnad what friggin these pakistai kids have with smoke----.

They are clueless about the indifference of smoke or no smoke.

Because we have keyboard warriors here, not real life warriors like Sir @Indus Falcon who sat in a fox hole for three days wounded, but didn't give up. Then threw his comrades body on his shoulder, and on one leg limped 9~10kms to a village in the sialkot sector. People need to re-channel their energies into positive developments, instead of useless jibber jabber.

Hi,

Whats up with with the U S flag----are you in the U S?

 

[!eon]

Because we have keyboard warriors here, not real life warriors like Sir @Indus Falcon who sat in a fox hole for three days wounded, but didn't give up. Then threw his comrades body on his shoulder, and on one leg limped 9~10kms to a village in the sialkot sector. People need to re-channel their energies into positive developments, instead of useless jibber jabber.

haven't seen @Indus Falcon since long. Everything ok ?

 

[Soldier-Boy]

Because we have keyboard warriors here, not real life warriors like Sir @Indus Falcon who sat in a fox hole for three days wounded, but didn't give up. Then threw his comrades body on his shoulder, and on one leg limped 9~10kms to a village in the sialkot sector. People need to re-channel their energies into positive developments, instead of useless jibber jabber.

During which war Sir?
1965 or 71?
Because as per my best knowledge there is no on going conflict or Taliban activity in this area.

Hi,

I don't undertsnad what friggin these pakistai kids have with smoke----.

They are clueless about the indifference of smoke or no smoke.

They are thinking fighter jets must be as cool as Honda 125 with smokeless engine and perfect gugud like sound.

 

[Khafee]

Hi,

I don't undertsnad what friggin these pakistai kids have with smoke----.

They are clueless about the indifference of smoke or no smoke.



Hi,

Whats up with with the U S flag----are you in the U S?

I was, on a training course, hence one of the reasons I was off the forum as well.

During which war Sir?
1965 or 71?
Because as per my best knowledge there is no on going conflict or Taliban activity in this area.


They are thinking fighter jets must be as cool as Honda 125 with smokeless engine and perfect gugud like sound.

Early ~ Mid nineties. Border skirmish.

 

[Soldier-Boy]

Early ~ Mid nineties. Border skirmish.

No offence meant but as per my best knowledge Sialkot border is working boundary means Indian accepts its status while Pakistan don't and after 1971 there are some exchange for fire even we exchange artillery but neither Pakistan nor the India cross other even today Indian hit border village of Sialkot with mortars because they can't face us on LOC area so they decided to hit our populated villages.
The incident you narrates about Indus shows that there are some action from cross border and Indus has to hide himself in fox hole and when he got chance he have to travel 10~12 kms to reach help but my Dear Sir main market (main city center) or Iqbal chowk barely 16 kms from border now tell me how can it is possible that he have to travel that far for help even our people and villages plus army installation barely 500 yrds to 1 Kms far from border and that is why Indian put pressure on us by firing those nearby densely populated villages.

Our 8th core H.Q present barely 10 KMS from border.
Sorry just a question if you like to answer.

During 1990 and 1995 there was no skirmish at that place.

 

[Khafee]

No offence meant but as per my best knowledge Sialkot border is working boundary means Indian accepts its status while Pakistan don't and after 1971 there are some exchange for fire even we exchange artillery but neither Pakistan nor the India cross other even today Indian hit border village of Sialkot with mortars because they can't face us on LOC area so they decided to hit our populated villages.
The incident you narrates about Indus shows that there are some action from cross border and Indus has to hide himself in fox hole and when he got chance he have to travel 10~12 kms to reach help but my Dear Sir main market (main city center) or Iqbal chowk barely 16 kms from border now tell me how can it is possible that he have to travel that far for help even our people and villages plus army installation barely 500 yrds to 1 Kms far from border and that is why Indian put pressure on us by firing those nearby densely populated villages.

Our 8th core H.Q present barely 10 KMS from border.
Sorry just a question if you like to answer.

During 1990 and 1995 there was no skirmish at that place.

Border skirmish = Gun fire exchange, Not an incursion. Two different things.

The exact details, are some where on the forum as well, you can search for it. This is from my memory. If you want further details, you can always come to Abu Dhabi and interview the gentleman, as well as other officers and jawans from his unit that are here, and ask them how did "X" number die & were wounded in that skirmish.


Note" "X" since I don't remember the exact number that were martyred, and wounded.

 

[Raider 21]

Hi,

I don't undertsnad what friggin these pakistai kids have with smoke----.

They are clueless about the indifference of smoke or no smoke.

In WVR combat and during BFM hops, I can spot the bandit in a much easier fashion by just following the trail of smoke....

 

[messiach]

Interesting, leaving smoke aside, you can guestimate turbine thrust by length of flame. I no more have the time.

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