Thread by request: Issues facing Pakistan and their potential solutions

[VCheng]

It is very typical of Deis lot to manipulate the meaning and then label someone as kaffir, this is what exactly is meant by separating religion from state. Show me one instances where the poster has condemned Islam or he has shown his hate. All that you're doing is misinterpreting it and labelling him as a hater of Islam.

I will request mod to put this guy in order as he is only maligning and twisting the meaning to suit his purpose, if anything he should be banned from this thread as he is not contributing to anything here @Dubious @Slav Defence @waz


this is quite evident why State and religion need to be separated, People here mis interpret as being against Islam. LOL

What good does banning one member do for such a mindset when even senior management are equally dishonest when they say in this thread above "This is a “military and religion are the ills of Pakistan” thread" when in fact the problems are clearly not Islam but making religion a matter of State, and not the Army, but its illegal overreach for grabbing power.

Such dishonesty is a traditional technique for shutting down valid criticism. Labels of being a kafir and a traitor are not far behind.

 

[salarsikander]

What good does banning one member do for such a mindset when even senior management are equally dishonest when they say in this thread above "This is a “military and religion are the ills of Pakistan” thread" when in fact the problems are clearly not Islam but making religion a matter of State, and not the Army, but its illegal overreach for grabbing power.

Such dishonesty is a traditional technique for shutting down valid criticism. Labels of being a kafir and a traitor are not far behind.

Speak the truth even when no listens to it, that doesn't change the reality you can hide it but eventually, you will see the results.

 

[VCheng]

Speak the truth even when no listens to it, that doesn't change the reality you can hide it but eventually, you will see the results.

Well, I have been here for many years now, and my signature line gets more applicable by the day. I have not changed, nor has reality as I describe it.

 

[Dubious]

this is quite evident why State and religion need to be separated, People here mis interpret as being against Islam. LOL

I dont have the same POV but that doesnt mean I will bash this thread...

Carry on

 

[salarsikander]

Labels of being a kafir and a traitor are not far behind.

Kafir we are already if we state that separating religion from the state should occur along with being a traitor to our country for pointing out the reality.

I am confident i am defending his orders.

by claiming that Religious matter is not private and that you have say between me and My Allah?

 

[VCheng]

Kafir we are already if we state that separating religion from the state should occur along with being a traitor to our country for pointing out the reality.

Well, I have been called both, from general members and indeed even certain members of the management, so i guess I must be doing it right.

Reality, however, remains what it is.

 

[salarsikander]

Reality, however, remains what it is.

far from what we wish for

 

[VCheng]

far from what we wish for

If only wishing were enough to change reality ......

 

[Asian.Century]