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HONG KONG: Tens of thousands of people in Hong Kong on Saturday marked the bloody 1989 Tiananmen Square crackdown, as China defies international condemnation with an ongoing roundup of political dissidents.

A sea of people, mostly clad in black as a sign of mourning, held up candles and sang solemn songs -- some with teary eyes -- as they filled an area the size of six football fields at the Victoria Park, the only commemoration on Chinese soil.

Organisers said 150,000 people had converged on park, with many others still struggling to make their way through the crowds to the site.

"I am here with a heavy heart, it is very emotional for me," Gladys Liu, a 48-year-old mother-of-two told AFP.

"I still remember the scenes -- how the army tanks were sent in to break up the student-led protests. I was following the news closely, I never thought it would turn so violent," said Liu, who turned up with her son, 14, and nine-year-old daughter.

"I want my children to know what happened. This is not something that can be learned in school," she added.

Hundreds, perhaps thousands, are believed to have died when the government sent in tanks and soldiers to clear Beijing's Tiananmen Square on the night of June 3-4, 1989, bringing a violent end to six weeks of pro-democracy protests.

An official verdict after the protests called them a "counter-revolutionary rebellion" although the wording has since been softened.

"I want to know the truth of June 4," said 17-year-old student Melissa Tang, who was among many youngsters at the vigil, as she raised candle in the air.

"Maybe we don't have the full picture of what happened but the students at the 1989 protests deserve our respect," said Tang, who was with a group of classmates.

Wang Dan, a key leader of the 1989 protests, and Ding Zilin, spokeswoman of the Tiananmen Mothers, a group representing families of the victims, addressed the crowd in Hong Kong through a pre-recorded video message from Taiwan and China respectively.

Hong Kong, a former British colony, returned to Chinese rule in 1997 but retains a semi-autonomous status with civil liberties -- including the right to protest -- not enjoyed in mainland China.

In Beijing, where the Tiananmen protests remain a taboo topic, thousands of Chinese and foreign tourists flocked to the giant square on Saturday amid a heavy police presence, but many shied away from answering questions on the incident.

China attempts to block any public discussion or remembrance of the events by hiding away key dissidents in the run-up to June 4 each year, taking them into custody or placing them under house arrest, friends and activists say.

Rights groups including New York-based Human Rights Watch have repeated calls for China to be held accountable for its past and present actions, but Beijing reiterated its position that the matter was closed.

"As for the political turbulence that took place in the last century in the late 1980s, the Communist Party and government have already made a conclusion," foreign ministry spokesman Hong Lei said Thursday.

Since mid-February, as protests spread across the Arab world leading to the toppling of leaders in Tunisia and Egypt, Chinese authorities have detained dozens of lawyers, activists and dissidents in an ongoing clampdown.

The vigil comes after Chinese police for the first time raised the possibility of compensation for those killed, according to Tiananmen Mothers.

The group said in an annual open letter this week that police have twice met relatives of one victim beginning in February, in a possible sign that Beijing is changing its view on the June 4 crackdown.

The letter said, however, that police did not discuss a formal apology for the killings or a public account of who ordered the shootings -- two of the group's long-standing demands.

The Hong Kong vigil was preceded by an annual Tiananmen march last Sunday joined by some 1,000 people, and a series of events including a 64-hour hunger strike on the eve of the anniversary to honour those who died.

Pro-democracy supporters also took out a full-page advertisement in the popular Chinese-language Apple Daily Saturday to call for justice for the Tiananmen victims and the immediate release of Chinese political dissidents.HONG KONG: Tens of thousands of people in Hong Kong on Saturday marked the bloody 1989 Tiananmen Square crackdown, as China defies international condemnation with an ongoing roundup of political dissidents.

A sea of people, mostly clad in black as a sign of mourning, held up candles and sang solemn songs -- some with teary eyes -- as they filled an area the size of six football fields at the Victoria Park, the only commemoration on Chinese soil.

Organisers said 150,000 people had converged on park, with many others still struggling to make their way through the crowds to the site.

"I am here with a heavy heart, it is very emotional for me," Gladys Liu, a 48-year-old mother-of-two told AFP.

"I still remember the scenes -- how the army tanks were sent in to break up the student-led protests. I was following the news closely, I never thought it would turn so violent," said Liu, who turned up with her son, 14, and nine-year-old daughter.

"I want my children to know what happened. This is not something that can be learned in school," she added.

Hundreds, perhaps thousands, are believed to have died when the government sent in tanks and soldiers to clear Beijing's Tiananmen Square on the night of June 3-4, 1989, bringing a violent end to six weeks of pro-democracy protests.

An official verdict after the protests called them a "counter-revolutionary rebellion" although the wording has since been softened.

"I want to know the truth of June 4," said 17-year-old student Melissa Tang, who was among many youngsters at the vigil, as she raised candle in the air.

"Maybe we don't have the full picture of what happened but the students at the 1989 protests deserve our respect," said Tang, who was with a group of classmates.

Wang Dan, a key leader of the 1989 protests, and Ding Zilin, spokeswoman of the Tiananmen Mothers, a group representing families of the victims, addressed the crowd in Hong Kong through a pre-recorded video message from Taiwan and China respectively.

Hong Kong, a former British colony, returned to Chinese rule in 1997 but retains a semi-autonomous status with civil liberties -- including the right to protest -- not enjoyed in mainland China.

In Beijing, where the Tiananmen protests remain a taboo topic, thousands of Chinese and foreign tourists flocked to the giant square on Saturday amid a heavy police presence, but many shied away from answering questions on the incident.

China attempts to block any public discussion or remembrance of the events by hiding away key dissidents in the run-up to June 4 each year, taking them into custody or placing them under house arrest, friends and activists say.

Rights groups including New York-based Human Rights Watch have repeated calls for China to be held accountable for its past and present actions, but Beijing reiterated its position that the matter was closed.

"As for the political turbulence that took place in the last century in the late 1980s, the Communist Party and government have already made a conclusion," foreign ministry spokesman Hong Lei said Thursday.

Since mid-February, as protests spread across the Arab world leading to the toppling of leaders in Tunisia and Egypt, Chinese authorities have detained dozens of lawyers, activists and dissidents in an ongoing clampdown.

The vigil comes after Chinese police for the first time raised the possibility of compensation for those killed, according to Tiananmen Mothers.

The group said in an annual open letter this week that police have twice met relatives of one victim beginning in February, in a possible sign that Beijing is changing its view on the June 4 crackdown.

The letter said, however, that police did not discuss a formal apology for the killings or a public account of who ordered the shootings -- two of the group's long-standing demands.

The Hong Kong vigil was preceded by an annual Tiananmen march last Sunday joined by some 1,000 people, and a series of events including a 64-hour hunger strike on the eve of the anniversary to honour those who died.

Pro-democracy supporters also took out a full-page advertisement in the popular Chinese-language Apple Daily Saturday to call for justice for the Tiananmen victims and the immediate release of Chinese political dissidents.


Hi Moderators!

Please merge this thread to existing one. I didn't had a look for a similar thread.

My mistake!
 
What the hell you know about HK? this so-called thousand people remembrance of Tiananmen is nothing , its been there on a yearly basis since 1989, the people thats still buying such craps been declining from 1.5 million in 1989 to less than a thousand as time go by.

And the funniest part is Indian like you must be thinking it was such a big deal, HK is known as the "protest city" since the late 80's, people are free to express their opinions everyday of the week.

Let me educate some ignorant frogs in a well whats we HongKongers consider a big deal, half a million people marching on the street during the 7-1 demonstration on a yearly basis, so no more idiotic imaginations of something similar to the middle-east, people in HK are rich, educated and most of all, we love HK as much as we love our motherland China.

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he Hong Kong 1 July march (Chinese: 七一遊行) is an annual protest rally originally led by the Civil Human Rights Front since the 1997 handover on the HKSAR establishment day. However, it was not until 2003 that the march drew large public attention by opposing the legislation of Basic Law Article 23. The 2003 protest, with 500,000 marchers, was the largest protest ever seen in Hong Kong since the 1997 handover.[1] Prior to this, only the 21 May 1989 pro-democracy protest drew more people with 1.5 million marchers in Hong Kong sympathizing with the participants of the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_1_July_marches

HK population is only 7 million but our forex reserve could take on our so-called upcoming superpower India, have some self-respect and stop posting something you have no idea whats is it all about period.:lol:
 
Why don't you talk about how Hong Kong people rioted for communism in 1967?

Hong Kong 1967 Leftist riots - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why are Indians scared of facing the truth: Hong Kong has many protests, this is one of them. They have protests for communism too, why not report that? Is it because your white masters are afraid of communism?
 
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150,000 people protesting....damn that's alot of people

with all the candles....it looks like a christmas carol :cheesy:
 
The young generation among the HKers are extremely Pro-PLA, even many of them have dreamed to be recruited by PLA.

The majority of Hong Kong is always sided with us, nothing to worry about it.
 
Why don't you talk about how Hong Kong people rioted for communism in 1967?

Hong Kong 1967 Leftist riots - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why are Indians scared of facing the truth: Hong Kong has many protests, this is one of them. They have protests for communism too, why not report that? Is it because your white masters are afraid of communism?

If you carefully note, no body on this thread has supported the protest. It was only a news item which was reported.

Hence your conclusions are not valid.

It also must be noted that Beijing has decided not to roll tanks over these 150,000 people. So, it's an even lesser news.

There is no need to be paranoid about these things.

Let the Hongkongers do what they want to. Just leave them alone.
 
If you carefully note, no body on this thread has supported the protest. It was only a news item which was reported.

Hence your conclusions are not valid.

It also must be noted that Beijing has decided not to roll tanks over these 150,000 people. So, it's an even lesser news.

There is no need to be paranoid about these things.

Let the Hongkongers do what they want to. Just leave them alone.

you totally missed the point. the problem here everytime there is such things, indian members rush here and post it.

our point is clear: when india is dying a slow death of corruption/lack of infrastrucutrure, why not just fix their own problem rather than being so keen on Chinese related protests?
 
oh,sad .

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oh,sad .
 
If you carefully note, no body on this thread has supported the protest. It was only a news item which was reported.

Hence your conclusions are not valid.

It also must be noted that Beijing has decided not to roll tanks over these 150,000 people. So, it's an even lesser news.

There is no need to be paranoid about these things.

Let the Hongkongers do what they want to. Just leave them alone.

Hong Kongers are left alone. Why are you even commenting? What does this have to do with Singapore? Didn't you execute 2 poor HK girls before including one underaged at time of arrest?

Anyone heard of Poon Yuen-chung? The 18-year old HK girl executed in Singapore for drug-trafficking? | HugePocket.com
 
you totally missed the point. the problem here everytime there is such things, indian members rush here and post it.

On this point, I agree with you.

It is true that one of those 1.2 billion honest harworking Indians has nothing better to do .... than finding this novel way of spending his or her Sunday.

In fact, on this rainy sunday here, even I found nothing better to do .... than wasting myself at Defence.pk !!!!

Perhaps, same is true for those HongKongers .... spending the Sunday in a novel way :)

Otherwise, they may have been too busy in office.

Chill !!!
 
On this point, I agree with you.

It is true that one of those 1.2 billion honest harworking Indians has nothing better to do .... than finding this novel way of spending his or her Sunday.

In fact, on this rainy sunday here, even I found nothing better to do .... than wasting myself at Defence.pk !!!!

Perhaps, same is true for those HongKongers .... spending the Sunday in a novel way :)



Otherwise, they may have been too busy in office.

Chill !!!

Again, what the heck you know about HK or we Hongkongers? seriously have you ever been to HK? i been to Singapore many times before and i could smell who you actually belong to from miles away, Btw, do you find anything wrong with your username? :lol: just a friendly advice, bug off from something you have absolutely no knowledge what so ever before you made a damn fool out of yourself please.
Dulay lomo choiheight sa choicha:partay:
 
Really hard to understand why some Chinese fellows are over reacting over this. We better know that it occurs at 4th June every year since 1989 due the inhuman show of superpower on a non-violent protesters. After reading some of the above posts, I can easily think of Premier Li Peng, who ordered the martial law. And PLA with tanks attacked on unarmed protesters. Really could not find any words.
Didn't quote anyone's statements as all seems to be same in a collective communist way.
BTW all of the statements in 1st post came from those who had suffered. Does not matter, how many times you had been to HK!!!!
 
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