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"This is the Chinese navy... You go!" China warns US spy plane flying over South China Sea

For our American friends, we advice them to respect the sovereignty of another country.
That's the problem! Different perceptions of sovereignty over the disputed islands. You say they belong to you according to ancient maps drawn by some dynasty or other, but the world says they don't as per the UNCLOS treaty! :P
 
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No evidence to support your claim all i read about it was a vietnamese and thailand ship were blown up otherwise i would know and it will all over the news here so again no evidence

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are you blind?

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Lucky that is US P-8A, China still generous on it. If that were Indian aircraft, China would shoot it like a fly you stupid Indian. China don't have the balls to bring it p8A down because we still want the U.S. to be supa powa. If we do like the Russian, you think the U.S. have the balls to go WW3. You should think triple before you post , no wonder Indian are really stupid and moron.
Do you always talk like a moron? Kid, you need to stop talking rubbish. Grow up.
 
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Pinoy is not innocent at all when talking about illegal fishing activity

A small Phillipine's illegal fishing boat burned down in Tahuna bay, North Sulawesi. (12/1/2015)

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KM. Gerry 12 burned down. 12 crew detained, 9 from philippines waiting for deportation.



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Last time in such confrontation poor ill-trained Chinese pilot ram his plane to American spy plane...


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Indonesia tightens security measures as illegal fishing activities continue
Sabtu, 28 Februari 2015 23:39 WIB | 183 Views
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(ANTARA FOTO/Izaac Mulyawan)

Jakarta (ANTARA News) - Despite the Indonesian governments war against poaching activities in its waters, foreign boats continue to fish illegally, prompting the countrys navy to tighten security measures in its maritime territory.

Following President Joko "Jokowi" Widodos instructions to destroy any foreign boats operating illegally in Indonesian waters, the Navy, in cooperation with the Maritime Affairs and Fisheries Ministry, has been confiscating foreign boats caught fishing illegally in Indonesian waters.

Jokowi, who has vowed to revive the past maritime glory of Indonesia during his tenure as the head of state, is determined to stop the entry of illegal foreign fishing boats into Indonesian waters.

Tough measures have been adopted by the Indonesian government against illegal fishing.

The navy has already burned and sunk a number of foreign fishing boats since late last year under the Jokowi administration.

During a security operation conducted on January 21-25, 2015, the navy seized seven foreign boats and seven Indonesian boats for fishing illegally in Indonesian waters, the Indonesian Navy chief of staff, Admiral Ade Supandi, said recently.

Of the seven foreign boats, four were Vietnamese, one was Thai, and two were from the Philippines.

The four Vietnamese boats were caught by the Maritime Affairs Ministrys Hiu Macan 001 boat in the Natuna Sea on January 22, 2015. The Thai boat was detained by KP Hiu 008 boat on January 25, 2015.

The Indonesian surveillance vessel confiscated two Philippines fishing vessels with 19 crew members in the Sulawesi Sea on January 25, 2015; the vessels were escorted to the Bitung Ministry Base. The Indonesian authorities have yet to decide whether or not to sink the two boats.

According to data, Indonesia lost some Rp300 trillion, or US$24.27 billion, annually to illegal fishing activities.

Some 5.4 thousand illegal fishing vessels reportedly operate in Indonesian waters as the government does not take any firm action against them.

"We must stop them. We must chase them away as soon as they enter Indonesian waters. Sink them," Jokowi ordered recently.

This year, the government will strengthen the fleet of patrol boats with seven additional units that will be operated by the Directorate General of Supervision of Marine and Fisheries Resources of the Maritime Affairs and Fisheries Ministry.

The seven new patrol boats will add to the 27 existing ones that the directorate general already owns, the Director of Supervision of Marine and Fisheries Resources, Nasfri Adisyahmeta, said on Feb 27, 2015.

The government will also provide 25 additional speed boats this year to make sea control more effective. The 25 new units will bring the number of speed boats owned by the directorate general to 100.

He pointed out that in 2014, the directorate general only had 60 operating days in the sea, but in 2015, control will be much more intensive as the operating days have been increased to 280 days.

"We will make it as effective as possible," he added.

The Marine Affairs and Fisheries Ministry will coordinate with other related agencies to affirm control in the sea, he stressed.

The ministry has already renewed its memorandum of understanding with the military to deal with illegal fishing and to protect the ecosystem in Indonesian waters, he observed.

"Coordination will also be established and strengthened with police, the State Intelligence Agency (BIN), the Communications Ministry, the Attorney Generals Office, and the Home Affairs Ministry," he added.

The government program, especially related to the control and protection of marine and fisheries resources, will need additional Rp600 billion to Rp1.7 trillion in 2015.

"Hopefully, with the additional facilities, infrastructure, and operating funds, we will be able to effectively preserve the countrys natural sea wealth," Nasfri stated.

Despite the tight control, three fishing vessels flying Thai flag were spotted off Tambelan in Bintan District, Riau Islands Province; they were believed to be illegally fishing in Indonesian waters.

"Although they have been operating there over the past week, no measure has been taken against them, head of the provincial Marine and Fisheries Service Raja Ariza noted on Feb. 20.

Local fishermen complained they were helpless as they could not chase away foreign fishing vessels, Raja Ariza emphasized.

Apparently, Thai fishermen are not deterred by the Indonesian governments tough action against illegal fishing.

Earlier, on Feb. 16, Indonesian authorities seized two Thai fishing boats in the Natuna Sea, Riau Islands waters.

"The Thai foreign fishing boats were confiscated by Hiu Macan Tutul Surveillance Vessel during the fishery and ocean resources surveillance operation in Natuna waters," Director General of Fishery and Marine Resources Surveillance Asep Burhanuddin stated in a press release dated Feb. 18.

The confiscated boats are MV Sudita having a gross tonnage (GT) of 102 tons and 11 Thai crew members and MV Jala Komira 807 with a GT of 103 tons; it was seized with 20 Thai crew members.

Officers have escorted the vessels to Pontianak of West Kalimantan for further legal action by the fisheries department.

The Indonesian government is committed to battling illegal fishing activities since Susi Pudjiastuti took over the Ministry of Marine Affairs and Fisheries.

On February 9, the ministry and the navy sunk a Thailand-flagged illegal fishing vessel that was caught in the Natuna Sea, Riau province, on October 30 last year.

"The sinking of the ship proves we are serious about eradicating illegal fishing practices in our seas. This is also part of our efforts to protect our countrys sovereignty," Minister Pudjiastuti had emphasized.

So far, Indonesia has not tapped its full fishing potential and the country remains weak in protecting its marine sector, which has the potential to earn US$1.2 trillion a year, officials observed.

Based on the calculations of the Peoples Coalition for Fisheries Justice, the state lost Rp101 trillion to illegal fishing between January and August 2014; some 1.6 million tons of fish were illegally caught from Indonesian waters during this period.

Therefore, the governments move to sink illegal fishing vessels has gained wide support at home and the people hope that the action will continue until the countrys waters are cleared of poachers.

Earlier, Foreign Minister Retno Marsudi had noted the move to sink foreign vessels was neither illegal nor barbaric. The move was expected to act a deterrent against illegal fishing and would stop poachers from entering Indonesian waters. It would also assure Indonesias maritime economic sovereignty, she had added.

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3 philippines vessels detonated at Buaya island, Sorong, W-Papua 11/03/2015

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New ports to support govt fisheries policy
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The government will this year develop two ports in the outer islands off northern Sulawesi, to boost the domestic fish processing industry and reduce illegal shipments to the Philippines.

The construction of the two ports will support Indonesia’s policy of banning transhipments to curb illegal, unreported and unregulated (IUU) fishing. Maritime Affairs and Fisheries Ministry director general for captured fisheries Gellwynn Jusuf said on Sunday that his office planned this year to build two ports in Dago Island, Sangihe Islands regency and Salibabu Island, Talaud Islands regency, North Sulawesi.

“Our fishermen can dock there after catching fish and the produce can be transported to Bitung for processing,” he told The Jakarta Post.

In addition, the government was also considering relocating the maritime resources and fisheries observatory station from Bitung, North Sulawesi, to Marore Island in Sangihe Islands regency or Miangas Island in Talaud Islands,
Gellwynn added.

Both Marore Island and Miangas Island are outer islands of Indonesia that border with the Philippines.

The development of the observatory station at either of these points may help detect the entry of foreign vessels and track the movement of illegal ships.

This will eventually affect the supply of fish to General Santos, the southernmost city of the Philippines. Maritime Affairs and Fisheries Minister Susi Pudjiastuti said earlier that nearly all tuna supplies processed in General Santos were sourced illegally from Bitung.

With abundant raw material from Indonesia, the Philippine city can export fresh, canned tuna totaling US$2 billion worldwide, in contrast to only Rp 16 billion ($121.16 million) worth of exports from Bitung, according to local media reports. Susi again said on Friday as quoted by kompas.com that 60 percent of fish delivered to the industry in General Santos came from Indonesia and that this situation must stop. “The most important thing is that fish should not be ‘sent’ to General Santos. Fish from Sulawesi must be processed in Sulawesi,” she said.

Susi also expressed anger at the statement of General Santos Mayor Ronnel Rivera as reported by asiancorrespondent.com that Indonesian fishermen had no capacity to operate fishing vessels and relied on their Filipino counterparts.

Online media outlets reported that Indonesia’s efforts to combat illegal fishing affected not only tuna hand line fishermen, but also purse seine fishing operators and owners. Bogor Institute of Agriculture Marine resource management expert Yonvitner said the government should build much-needed infrastructure to spur the growth of the fisheries industry in Bitung. “It should also provide tax incentives to fishermen and companies. Bigger incentives can be given to those that process the produce in Bitung and do not export raw materials,” he said.
 
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It is unequivocally international, even overflights of the islands would be international space since:

UNCLOS and Agreement on Part XI

Article 11 of UNCLOS - which China is a signatory to states that:

"For the purpose of delimiting the territorial sea, the outermost permanent harbour works which form an integral part of the harbour system are regarded as forming part of the coast. Off-shore installations and artificial islands shall not be considered as permanent harbour works." (emphasis added).

Therefore the US is making no claim to innocent passage. It is claiming, quite clearly and emphatically, that the waters around artificial islands generate no territorial claims and are international waters with freedom of navigation for all entities.


if that's not enough


Article 13 states that:

"A low-tide elevation is a naturally formed area of land which is surrounded by and above water at low tide but submerged at high tide. Where a low-tide elevation is wholly situated at a distance exceeding the breadth of the territorial sea from the mainland or an island, it has no territorial sea of its own."

The reefs that were previously completely submerged during high tide that China built up are therefore considered artificial islands and do not generate a territorial sea.



The above is why the US doesn't respect China's "sovereignty."
That's all fine! But try convincing the Chinese that the UNCLOS treaty supersedes all their silly pre-historic maps drawn by the ancients of antiquity that no one knows who actually drew them! But the Chinese deem these maps and sketches as the basis of delineating maritime boundaries. As usual, logic and the rule of law does not apply to them. They are in a world of their own where might is right!
 
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That's the problem! Different perceptions of sovereignty over the disputed islands. You say they belong to you according to ancient maps drawn by some dynasty or other, but the world says they don't as per the UNCLOS treaty! :P
What we control currently is our until someone got the ball to take it away from us. Got it? We did not sign UNCLOS treaty to give away our islands. We made that clear even before we ratified UNCLOS.
 
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What we control currently is our until someone got the ball to take it away from us. Got it? We did not sign UNCLOS treaty to give away our islands. We made that clear even before we ratified UNCLOS.
Read post #25. That should put you wise!
 
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Read post #25. That should put you wise!
This is what we declared before we signed UNCLOS.

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In accordance with the decision of the Standing Committee of the Eighth National People's Congress of the People's Republic of China at its nineteenth session, the President of the People's Republic of China has hereby ratified the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea of 10 December 1982 and at the same time made the following statement:

1. In accordance with the provisions of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, the People's Republic of China shall enjoy sovereign rights and jurisdiction over an exclusive economic zone of 200 nautical miles and the continental shelf.

2. The People's Republic of China will effect, through consultations, the delimitation of the boundary of the maritime jurisdiction with the States with coasts opposite or adjacent to China respectively on the basis of international law and in accordance with the principle of equitability.

3. The People's Republic of China reaffirms its sovereignty over all its archipelagos and islands as listed in article 2 of the Law of the People's Republic of China on the territorial sea and the contiguous zone, which was promulgated on 25 February 1992.

4. The People's Republic of China reaffirms that the provisions of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea concerning innocent passage through the territorial sea shall not prejudice the right of a coastal State to request, in accordance with its laws and regulations, a foreign State to obtain advance approval from or give prior notification to the coastal State for the passage of its warships through the territorial sea of the coastal State.

Declaration made after ratification (25 August 2006)

Declaration under article 298:

The Government of the People's Republic of China does not accept any of the procedures provided for in Section 2 of Part XV of the Convention with respect to all the categories of disputes referred to in paragraph 1 (a) (b) and (c) of Article 298 of the Convention.


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Where did we ratified UNCLOS to give away our sovereign rights and territorial claim?
 
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More right we have no ships like that on our fishing fleet the only news i got was a group of filipino fishermen who work for foreign ship was drifting and was save by the Indonesians force and arrested under suspicion of illegal fishing on indonesian waters but latter releases due to lack of evidence and the ship was register in foreign country the filipinos were working in ship it was not a philippine registered ships so who can it be our fault? if its a foreign ship with filipino workers?
 
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More right we have no ships like that on our fishing fleet the only news i got was a group of filipino fishermen who work for foreign ship was drifting and was save by the Indonesians force and arrested under suspicion of illegal fishing on indonesian waters but latter releases due to lack of evidence and the ship was register in foreign country the filipinos were working in ship it was not a philippine registered ships so who can it be our fault? if its a foreign ship with filipino workers?

read they news above
 
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What Indian will do, China almost finish the building construction in SCS island. Come and bite China?. US cannot do any sh!t only spy, China still warned and built. "You go girl" this is message for Indians.


Oh isn't indian slave to the British? Oh feel sorry that Britain make you learn English as your first language and india mother language as a second Language. Hahahhahahahaahhah.....
Chinese loves giving warning nothing else....US will soon spank your a$$
 
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