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This French Politician Now Has Problem with Whom Muslim Women Chose as Their Life Partner

Is sounds great ,but that dsnt explain why a small kid had to do it ,do you think she understands Islam at this age and doing it on her own will.
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What’s wrong with this? Lol

It’s very simple man. You teach your kids what you believe is the right thing. And you fully believe in it and how much joy it has brought to you.

We find Islam beautiful.

What a gift it is for us. Kids CAN understand to their ability. The concept of god in Islam is rather simple you know.

Wouldn’t you teach your kids what ever your beliefs are. What ever they maybe. If you don’t believe in god. You will teach them that. If you believe in Ram you will teach them that.

You don’t leave your kids to sleep at what ever time eat what ever because you know from experience that it’s bad. Just like that. You teach your kids the great life advice that Islam gives. I am sure you do the same in your religion or culture as well.

A lot of non Muslims have a hard time understanding this as well. Because it’s a thing of perspective and exposure. They just don’t know what Islam is. Once you find out you rarely go back.
 
French should start questioning their birth, would this world be a better place without them.

It was not long ago that Muslims from Africa to Eastern Europe, Central Asia to Pakistan used the word Farangi (French) as an insult, and for good reason.

Farangi will always be Farangi. They are avowed enemies of Islam for more than a thousand years.

They were twice saved from Muslim domination by our infighting, once from Al Andalusia (Islamic Spain,) and another time from the Ottoman-Safavi conflict.

This third time, we will finish the job.

What’s wrong with this? Lol

It’s very simple man. You teach your kids what you believe is the right thing. And you fully believe in it and how much joy it has brought to you.

We find Islam beautiful.

What a gift it is for us. Kids CAN understand to their ability. The concept of god in Islam is rather simple you know.

Wouldn’t you teach your kids what ever your beliefs are. What ever they maybe. If you don’t believe in god. You will teach them that. If you believe in Ram you will teach them that.

You don’t leave your kids to sleep at what ever time eat what ever because you know from experience that it’s bad. Just like that. You teach your kids the great life advice that Islam gives. I am sure you do the same in your religion or culture as well.

A lot of non Muslims have a hard time understanding this as well. Because it’s a thing of perspective and exposure. They just don’t know what Islam is. Once you find out you rarely go back.

Report him, he is a known Islamophobic troll and RSS supporter.

Indians are not just Non-Muslims, but they are blasphemers, par excellence (sorry for the French.)

Lets move on to discuss the topic without their distractions.
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From my experience most Pakistanis would flee Pakistan given the chance. During the height of Europe's refugee crisis, with refugees pouring into it from conflict ridden zones like Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan, there was also a considerable fraction of Pakistanis sneaking into Europe too. But unlike those other countries Pakistan isn't in the midst of a civil war. Yet such a large number of refugees desperate to cross into Europe, often at great risk to their own lives, are coming out of Pakistan. And they're not just Pathans, but people from Punjab and other areas too. When I was in Pakistan and every time some stranger found out I was a Canadian citizen the first thing he asked me was "how do I get a visa for Canada?". I swear there were people I met who were ready to give me their mom, sister or daughter in marriage to me if I asked them in return for helping them immigrate to Canada.
People really aren't happy in Pakistan. It wasn't always like this. The thing is Pakistan is getting too overpopulated and there aren't enough jobs to make a living. People are struggling just to feed themselves and their families with the bare minimum. They're struggling to pay their landlords rent for the smallest living quarters. Everyone is complaining about the utility bills. People are struggling to pay the tuition to educate their children.
On top of that it is so damn easy to register a false criminal case against anyone just by bribing a senior police officer. Loads of people are languishing in jail, the vast majority are UTPs without a shred of credible evidence against them. They can't afford lawyers so they languish in jail for years without even a trial. Then when they are released from custody, every time a crime is committed in their neighborhood they're the first ones the police pick up, take to the station, give a good beating and what not.
I've seen the condition of the weak and the dispossessed of Pakistan. Unlike other expat Pakistanis who when they go to Pakistan stay within their bubble of rich families and friends, I actually explored the country and spent time with the actual people there. I know that country like the back of my hand.
I know for a fact that the majority of gharib Pakistanis are good people but they have no future in that country. They will for generations to come live in poverty and repression. Their greatest dream is to escape and move to the West. I don't blame them


No, I'm personally not a Qadiani, although I deeply respect the founder of the sect, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. In the words of Iqbal he was “probably the profoundest theologian among modern Indian Muslims.” (Indian Antiquary, vol. 29, September 1900, p. 239)
I come from an Ahmadi/Qadiani family but I left the movement when I was very young, just a teenager and adapted orthodox Sunni Islam. However, I am neither a Barelawi or Deobandi or Ahle Hadith. I am just a regular Sunni Muslim who follows the Hanafi school. Apart from not believing Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was a prophet, I have retained most of my beliefs and practise of Islam that I inherited from my Ahmadiyyah background. I found that to be the most logical and sensible approach to Islam.
Also, I must point out that Ahmadis/Qadianis were Pakistan's greatest asset, being highly educated, intelligent, coming from good families mostly from east Punjab during partition, and having the best akhlaq of all Pakistanis. Tragically they were declared non-Muslim by that imbecile Bhutto. Then Zia came along and started persecuting them, persecution that persists till this day. As a result, Pakistan has suffered a massive brain drain, and pretty much gone down the toilet. I mean just look at how IK's government succumbed to pressure not to give a portfolio to the financial genius Atif Miah simply because he's an Ahmadi. The man was Pakistan's best hope to create a viable economic strategy to get Pakistan back on its feet. Well fine, the only loser in that will be Pakistan itself. The Ahmadis have largely moved on to greener pastures in the West. They have excellent relations with the governments and societies they settled among, especially here in Canada.



The indigenous people of Canada have indeed historically been mistreated, but that was a long time ago. They still struggle with issues like alcoholism and discrimination, but that's nothing compared to Third World problems. Our government has done a lot to redress historical grievances of that community, and they are highly favored by many government policies

I think I miscommunicated my point earlier. I don't think most people want to leave Pakistan because of social issues. Most of the immigration out of Pakistan is economic and that is why we see such a massive amount of remittances.

If people went out for western freedoms, they wouldn't have immigrated to the middle east. Yet we see that a big chunk of people go there.

Pakistan is a poor country with a lot of poor people. People move for better economic activity.

The western countries got rich and technologically advanced compared to others when they were homophobiic and anti-Semitic and all the other things Muslims are accused of being today.

They conquered a good portion of the world and got massive amounts of resource influx. They got rich, the conquered got poor. The loss wasn't just financial, but also social.

Most of the thirst world, poor countries are the ones who were former colonies. It takes times, and is likely a generational thing, to rebuild the social structures necessary for being competitive.

Anyways, the point was Pakistan. Is, like many others, recovering from the effects of centuries long subjugation. The west has resources, and former colonies lack them. Most people want to immigrate for those economic resources, which some people interpret as being for some better in all aspects. This is where the western ideals of secularism and other such are considered better than Islamic values.

Then we get sanctimonious talk about how people should go back to where they came from if the don't like the western values which are obviously superior.
 
I actually tried to move to Pakistan twice in recent years. First time I couldn't even get citizenship because my dad was born in India and immigrated to Canada in the late 80s before I was born. He married my mom who was born in Multan but came to Canada when she was very young in the early 70s. They married in Canada and so I was born in Canada. So when I went to Pakistan I had to go on a visa. Then I applied for a shanakhti card but NADRA's stupid bureaucracy didn't give me one. I was arrested once for overstaying my visa, put in jail for three months before I was asked to leave the country by the police after I got an extension on my visa.
I returned to Canada in April 2016. After a while I decided to make another attempt to move to Pakistan. This time the company I was working for helped me out a bit. I was able to secure a NICOP card here in Canada and therefore I went to Pakistan without needing a visa. But shortly after arriving in Pakistan I was once again arrested, this time for the "blasphemy" of preaching Qadianism, charged with 298-C, and spent 5 months in Adiala Jail before the Punjab High Court granted me bail. But even after I was released, the Punjab Police refused to return my Canadian passport, so I had to have my Canadian High Commission get me emergency travel documents so I could board a flight back to Canada with my ticket paid for by Global Affairs on condition that I pay them back within 2 months of returning to Canada.

Now I may be an exceptional case, but you tell me why would an expat Pakistani want to move to a country like Pakistan? Does Pakistan even welcome us? I've learned my lesson, I think we're better off here in the West. We may be perceived as foreigners because of our very different religion and culture, but at least we have our basic human and civil rights protected.

I believe the main reason God doesn't punish or destroy Western civilization is, despite all their moral and social corruption, they do not perpetrate Zulm on the weak, and they are people of justice. The Muslims pride themselves on things like family values, hijab, rejection of homosexualism, and so forth, but because they commit Zulm against the weak and have no true justice Allah is destroying them and making their countries into dystopian nightmares.

If you think that, you haven't studied the Noble Qur'an. So stay there, wish you all these best, hope you have peace. But remember, peace is with those who have faith in hearts. Meanwhile, Pakistanis will continue to fight to make Pakistan better, stronger and more powerful. We will make our country a Madinah Riyasat, in-sha-Allah.
I am amazed to read that line. They donot perpetrate Zulm on weak? Really???

What is and has been happening in Africa for decades? That is not Zulm Done by these western civilizations?

Which muslims do you see who perpetrate Zulm on weak? I tell you who are these.. These are tattos of feudals who has been put on our heads from last century and aided by these westerner civilizations.

The only reason muslims as whole are in misery is Not because they committed Zulm on weaks... But instead is their negligance to understand Needs of the Times AKA Science.
Muslims are mistakenly TOO CONTENT these days and entirely ignore the way of doing businesses and forgot how the world works.
 
What’s wrong with this? Lol

It’s very simple man. You teach your kids what you believe is the right thing. And you fully believe in it and how much joy it has brought to you.

We find Islam beautiful.

What a gift it is for us. Kids CAN understand to their ability. The concept of god in Islam is rather simple you know.

Wouldn’t you teach your kids what ever your beliefs are. What ever they maybe. If you don’t believe in god. You will teach them that. If you believe in Ram you will teach them that.

You don’t leave your kids to sleep at what ever time eat what ever because you know from experience that it’s bad. Just like that. You teach your kids the great life advice that Islam gives. I am sure you do the same in your religion or culture as well.

A lot of non Muslims have a hard time understanding this as well. Because it’s a thing of perspective and exposure. They just don’t know what Islam is. Once you find out you rarely go back.
I have no problem in what the kid wears.i tried to show you everyone is not wearing it out of love of Islam as you said.we have countries which require it when women come out and that my friend is compulsion.
 
I have no problem in what the kid wears.i tried to show you everyone is not wearing it out of love of Islam as you said.we have countries which require it when women come out and that my friend is compulsion.

I am glad you could see the points I made about Islam and how Muslim women make their own choices about who they are marrying. If you keep an open mind like today. We can all live peacefully with each other.

Bottom line is that this French politician like many others is running the dirty politics. Which will come back to bite them.

Once that original point was cleared, it seems you would like to discuss another problem that you feel you have with Islam. The Hijab. Although you did use an extremely poor example because little kids don’t have free will anywhere in the world. At least not until into their teens. Their parents control all aspects of their lives. But I do understand what you want to discuss. The hijab or Saudi rules. Well do all Muslim countries do it? If no then it must not be narrowed down to Islam but rather a country based thing. France forcing women to not cover up, is it any different? And Is it even bad to cover up? after all even Indian culture has women veiling themselves. But we can do that elsewhere. Let’s not derail the topic at hand.
 
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