‘They don’t have power to negotiate!’ Trump cancels talks with Taliban after attack kills US soldier

[mingle]

Lol so there goes peace talks. As feared Taliban are inherently stupid to seize any opportunity. They still bomb Kabul in the middle of peace talks.

Either so called Taliban leaders have no control over their foot soldiers who can change sides anyway. Or they are just stupid as f and want to be in state of war. If its former then its even worse, it mean this farce of peace deal will not go anywhere. Remind me of our own peace deals with TTP.



If some believe conspiracies from across the border then it would make it sound like that Pakistan is behind failed peace talks to put more pressure on US to act on IoK.

Fight won't stop when you negotiate sole purpose of this bombing by Talibs and US refusing to talks further is to get better bargain nothing more. Trump wants a better deal so Talibans is. You will see after few days negotiations will start again its all about bargain nothing more

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

The wheel keeps turning. They wont get out until it hits their economy.

 

[delta2]

The Republicans do not want to lose the upcoming election. They want to win it at all costs. Given that the Democratic presidential nominee loses to Donal Trump again, things will heat up for Nancy Pelosi and the Democrat base will demand big changes. The party is already on the path to bitter infighting if not a total split and losing to Republicans led by Donald Trump will result in an open rebellion among the democrat base, especially the younger voters rallying for The Squad will not tolerate such a loss.

Combining a presidential win with an exit deal in Afghanistan would be a prize worth winning, at all, and any costs.

 

[Trango Towers]

Taliban have the upper hand. Trump is a d1ck

 

[SIPRA]

Shocking. Not a good news, for Pakistan.

 

[GumNaam]

let them fight. none of our business.

Yeah Pakistan should declare neutrality &pull out as well. Just cut off all supplies to Afghanistan. the u.s. can suffer alone. Let the Taliban deal with the u.s. the way they deal best. We'll deal with india the way we deal best!

 

[Abu Zarrar]

Kabul attack is just an excuse to walk away from the table.during these nine rounds of negotiation neither side stop killing each other.is he not aware of killing taliban fighters and their commanders the night raids by US green berets killing dozens of civilians each day?

 

[khansaheeb]

Things dont add up honestly. Me thinks it's not the donny who just cancelled the peace deal but the other way around.

what's a donny?

Trump tweets. Says talibans not serious for the talks.Talibans were due to visit camp David in US. Earlier Ghani also canceled his US trip.

So it means briefcase of dollars and virgins at the camp are cancelled, what a loss for the Talib negotiators.

 

[Riz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/157918533655871488

Old trump is back...

 

[Maxpane]

i think Pakistan should not support peace talk and propagate that it was the best that they could do for the world but US dnt want peace just let the talibaan do their work . we are already fencing our border.

 

[xyx007]

this type of pressure doesn't affect the Taliban strong narrative because they don't wear a watch and nothing to lose. Trump is just making more delay and cost him more money.

 

[fitpOsitive]

The blast in Kabul that killed a dozen of people, including a US soldier, has proven that there is no point in negotiating with the Taliban militants who can’t even uphold a ceasefire during important talks, President Trump said.

“If they cannot agree to a ceasefire during these very important peace talks, and would even kill 12 innocent people, then they probably don’t have the power to negotiate a meaningful agreement anyway,” Trump said in a tweet, announcing his decision to call off peace negotiations and cancel the meeting with the Taliban leaders headed for the US.

"How many more decades are they willing to fight?"

....an attack in Kabul that killed one of our great great soldiers, and 11 other people. I immediately cancelled the meeting and called off peace negotiations. What kind of people would kill so many in order to seemingly strengthen their bargaining position? They didn’t, they....
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 7, 2019
https://www.rt.com/news/468324-trump-cancels-taliban-talks/

That might signal a change in plan in Washington about region. Because trupms statement is mare an excuse, as US killed Taliban leader(Mullah Mansoor) during talks in 2016 , so there is no point in it.
However, let me remind US a scene that they have forgotten, it is 30th April, 1975. But this time, the helicopter that will carry the final staff will also be shot down by Talibs.
I predict today, if Russian woman was available for 1000 dollars in international market after 1992, US woman will be available for 200 dollar after 2025.
Stay tuned.

 

[Pakistansdefender]

(CNN)President Donald Trump said Saturday that Taliban leaders were to travel to the US for secret peace talks this weekend along with the President of Afghanistan at Camp David, but that the meeting has been canceled and he's called off peace talks with the militant group entirely.

Trump tweeted that he scrapped the meeting after the Taliban took credit for an attack in Kabul, Afghanistan, that killed a dozen people, including an American soldier.


US service member killed in Kabul suicide car bomb attack
Inviting Taliban leaders onto American soil is an unprecedented move and a significant development in America's longest running war just days from the anniversary of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. It comes after Trump said as recently as late last month that he is planning to withdraw thousands of US forces from Afghanistan but will keep 8,600 troops in the country at least for the time being. It's not clear if Trump's Saturday night announcement will impact that plan.
"Unbeknownst to almost everyone, the major Taliban leaders and, separately, the President of Afghanistan, were going to secretly meet with me at Camp David on Sunday," Trump tweeted Saturday night.
Trump claimed that before traveling to the US on Saturday evening, "Unfortunately, in order to build false leverage, they admitted to......an attack in Kabul that killed one of our great great soldiers, and 11 other people."
"I immediately cancelled the meeting and called off peace negotiations," Trump added.
The President slammed the leaders for thinking that the attacks would improve their negotiating position.
"What kind of people would kill so many in order to seemingly strengthen their bargaining position?" he tweeted. "They didn't, they ... only made it worse!"
The State Department referred CNN to the White House for comment.
The insurgent group has not halted its campaign of violence as the peace talks with the US have taken place but Thursday's killing of an American when a deal was reportedly close appears to have prompted the dramatic move from the President.
The Pentagon announced Friday that Sgt. 1st Class Elis Angel Barreto Ortiz was killed in Afghanistan. Barreto, a 34-year-old paratrooper from Morovis, Puerto Rico, died when a car bomb exploded at a checkpoint near NATO headquarters and the US embassy in Kabul. Barreto is the 16th US service member to be killed in Afghanistan in 2019, and three other American service members have been killed in recent weeks.
The Afghan government did not push for the cancellation of the meeting at Camp David after the Taliban attack this week, it was a decision by the White House and the State Department, according to a source familiar with the planning.
Despite Trump saying in his tweet Saturday that peace negotiations are called off, new dates are being discussed by the White House for a potential meeting with the Taliban and the Afghan government, the source says. It's unclear if the Taliban will have to make hard and fast commitments before the meeting or if Trump is using the cancellation and rescheduling simply as a negotiating tactic.
The US troop withdrawals could mark the beginning of the conflict triggered by 9/11 that has cost billions in taxpayer dollars and claimed more than 2,300 American lives.
In his tweets, Trump cast doubt on the leaders' bargaining abilities in light of the killings.
"If they cannot agree to a ceasefire during these very important peace talks, and would even kill 12 innocent people, then they probably don't have the power to negotiate a meaningful agreement anyway," he added. "How many more decades are they willing to fight?"
Secret meeting in the works
Earlier this week CNN was told by a source informed on the matter that the State Department and the National Security Council were working on scheduling a US-Afghan government meeting as well as a US-Taliban meeting on US soil, though the location was never explicitly stated. Afghanistan wanted it sooner rather than later, but the US side was looking at the middle of this month as the most likely date.
Trump was involved in the planning personally, hoping that it would come to fruition in the coming week, the source said. He got personally attached to the outcome and the logistics of the talks after meeting with top advisers about the Afghan peace process in August. Before that, US Special Envoy for Afghanistan Zalmay Khalilzad had been given a long leash to do the negotiating to bring all parties -- including the Taliban -- to an agreement.
The Afghan government had for months been frustrated that they had not been invited to Washington by Trump during his first two and a half years in office. Afghan officials had planned to come last year right after UN General Assembly meeting but the trip fell apart because the timing did not work out, and the Trump administration canceled the visit.
Trump's announcement Saturday comes as the US and the Taliban appeared to be close to finalizing a peace deal. The lead US negotiator Zalmay Khalilzad returned to Doha, Qatar, this week to resume talks with the Taliban.
Khalilzad had told Afghanistan's TOLOnews on Monday that the US and the Taliban have reached an agreement "in principle," pending final approval by Trump.
Khalilzad said that based on the draft agreement, the US would pull troops from five bases across Afghanistan within 135 days so long as the Taliban met conditions set out in the agreement. The US currently has about 14,000 service members in Afghanistan, alongside NATO troops, helping to train and advise Afghan troops and conducting counterterrorism operations.
This story has been updated with additional developments Saturday.

I just simply hope we have plan B....
The orange clown has really change everything. While he was involved till the last and quit at the last moment.
Pakistan was basing everything on this deal and no it was cancelled .
The afghan intelligence, the daily articles against the deal etc have suddenly brainwashed into what he was believeing 3 days earlier .

Lol so there goes peace talks. As feared Taliban are inherently stupid to seize any opportunity. They still bomb Kabul in the middle of peace talks.

Either so called Taliban leaders have no control over their foot soldiers who can change sides anyway. Or they are just stupid as f and want to be in state of war. If its former then its even worse, it mean this farce of peace deal will not go anywhere. Remind me of our own peace deals with TTP.



If some believe conspiracies from across the border then it would make it sound like that Pakistan is behind failed peace talks to put more pressure on US to act on IoK.

People Like have zero knowledge of the situation. From the day peace talks starts taliban conduct thousands of attacks and Atleast 500 people would have died.
And the government has also launched attacks killing about 100 taliban .
The fighting has been going on from both sides.
And taliban cannot stop if they are hunted by afghan forces .
Suddenly this love for 12 people in president trump is really werid . How can he lememnt the killing of 12 people when thousands more are killed .
The afghan government is busy trying to persuade him not to go and continue to feed them.
This is not going to be good for Pakistan .

 

[LeGenD]

Taliban are responsible for this issue, they continue to attack Afghan government and cities while pretending to reach a deal with US. This is not how a deal is teached.

I have repeatedly pointed out in this forum that YOU cannot reason with snakes. Pakistan held talks with TTP several times, to no avail.

 

[Hareeb]

It had to happen. The end of world has just started.