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They don’t do a damn thing for us: Trump to Pakistan

It is undeniable embarrassing fact , that Osma found in Abottabad, near academy. And our enemy sold this discovery very successfully.
on pakistan behalf "it was a common enemy of usa and pakistan after entering into WOT"
secondly ,dont forget pakistan shows them leniency in the operation, thirdly it was pakistani who helped them and who bypassed all the state departments of pakistan just to get extra benefit from usa by telling them first . i.e shakeel afridi...my perspective is different ,no need to get embarraced , common enemy was eliminated doesnt matter how.
the target was non state actor , he was saudi national ,educated in usa, mastermind of 911 maybe? but isnt a pakistani , not raised by pakistan, even not hidden by pakistanis, he was constantly moving through porous borders...intelligence failure isnt a first of its kind...911 was intelligence failure and many other .
 
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on pakistan behalf "it was a common enemy of usa and pakistan after entering into WOT"
secondly ,dont forget pakistan shows them leniency in the operation, thirdly it was pakistani who helped them and bypassed all the state departments of pakistan just to get extra benefit from usa. i.e shakeel afridi...my perspective is different ,no need to get embarraced , common enemy was eliminated doesnt matter how.
the target was non state actor , he was saudi national ,educated in usa, mastermind of 911 maybe? but isnt a pakistani , not raised by pakistan, even not hidden by pakistani, he was constantly moving through hidden borders...intelligence failure isnt a first of its kind...911 was intelligence failure and many other .
But, Saudi with money walk out clean. And embarrassing moments harvested for Pakistan and still haunting. That is the dilemma of our slave mentality. When nation lives on foreign aid and loan then world treat them like that.... PTI is lucky that got some short term loans from Saudi due to Khasoggi death , and IK promise to attend the conference. Otherwise KSA was ready to show cold shoulder to Pakistan.
 
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But, Saudi with money walk out clean. And embarrassing moments harvested for Pakistan and still haunting. That is the dilemma of our slave mentality. When nation lives on foreign aid and loan then world treat them like that.... PTI is lucky that got some short term loans from Saudi due to Khasoggi death , and IK promise to attend the conference. Otherwise KSA was ready to show cold shoulder to Pakistan.
in pakistan nobody cares for that , what kind of embaracement you talking about ? have you checked how many al-qaeda micreants handed over by pak to usa? its all about showing the world your diplomatic perspective right, which was very weak in zardaris and ns tenures, nobody in the world whine about osama bullshit , all praise pakistans role as frontline ally in that war except for few people in america just for theirs political point scoring ,nothing else, well as far as loans and aids are concern, we bought loans from friendly countries which we will repay to them with profits ? so where is the begging factor here ? secondly dont confuse coalition support fund with aid..usa doesnt give an aid to run our country.
 
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in pakistan nobody cares for that , what kind of embaracement you talking about ? have you checked how many al-qaeda micreants handed over by pak to usa? its all about showing the world your diplomatic perspective right, which was very weak in zardaris and ns tenures, nobody in the world whine about osama bullshit , all praise pakistans role as frontline ally in that war except for few people in america just for theirs political point scoring ,nothing else, well as far as loans and aids are concern, we bought loans from friendly countries which we will repay to them with profits ? so where is the begging factor here ? secondly dont confuse coalition support fund with aid..usa doesnt give an aid to run our country.
Appreciate your positive thinking, but world look us little different way. They change there policy position ,when they want too. Here Indian and Israeli lobby is very strong and EU follow the rules set by US.
Imagine how IK feels when he ask to other countries to lend us some money to pay the foreign debts .... because are whole nation is corrupt to the core. Only 8 lack people pay tax in whole nation. A nation want all basic needs of life without working. Hopefully, you travel outside Pakistan and seen how much people work to earn respectable life.
 
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Appreciate your positive thinking, but world look us little different way. They change there policy position ,when they want too. Here Indian and Israeli lobby is very strong and EU follow the rules set by US.
Imagine how IK feels when he ask to other countries to lend us some money to pay the foreign debts .... because are whole nation is corrupt to the core. Only 8 lack people pay tax in whole nation.

there is no Indian lobby in the USA except in the minds of some pakistanis

friendly ties with India are a function of outsourcing to India, access to Indian market and American tensions with China/Pakistan.
the growing and prosperous indian diaspora in USA helps at the margins
 
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there is no Indian lobby in the USA except in the minds of some pakistanis

friendly ties with India are a function of outsourcing to India, access to Indian market and American tensions with China/Pakistan.
the growing and prosperous indian diaspora in USA helps at the margins
lol ... atleast don t tell me ... please. May be someone else buy your statement. Go read Ashok Sharma document the journey of Indian lobby. If you need more i can help you more.
 
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Appreciate your positive thinking, but world look us little different way. They change there policy position ,when they want too. Here Indian and Israeli lobby is very strong and EU follow the rules set by US.
yeah they change their policy in favour of pakistan aswell, and world policies isnt drive on usa alone, china is emerging as a major player on all international forums too, indians are in false euphoria, they doest have experience of dealing with usa ,which we have since the day of our birth as nation.Time will tell them, nowadays usa is only "china specific" in all spectrum of matters , so they just getting cozier with india day by day just to make a buffer state against china...indian people are naturally inherited overconfident , while being d+ grade in appearance ,they think they can try to appease usa by creating the worlds most indifferent and worst kind of "**** category" in the world. i.e trying to stand on two boats , usa and russia together.
 
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yeah they change their policy in favour of pakistan aswell, and world policies isnt drive on usa alone, china is emerging as a major player on all international forums too, indians are in false euphoria, they doest have experience of dealing with usa ,which we have since the day of our birth as nation.Time will tell them, nowadays usa is only "china specific" in all spectrum of matters , so they just getting cozier with india day by day just to make a buffer state against china...indian people are naturally inherited overconfident , while being d+ grade in appearance ,they think they can try to appease usa by creating the worlds most indifferent and worst kind of "**** category" in the world. i.e trying to stand on two boats , usa and russia together.
You need to study the might of US consumer market. From where Indian and Chinese earn money boasted there economy, recent tax and tariff on Chinese products etc, impact on Chinese economy due to these billions of dollar taxes ....etc etc... US is titanic , those who think it will slow down in coming years... no don t think so. Halt on immigrant worker from India also has adverse affect on Indian economy.
 
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there is no Indian lobby in the USA except in the minds of some pakistanis

friendly ties with India are a function of outsourcing to India, access to Indian market and American tensions with China/Pakistan.
the growing and prosperous indian diaspora in USA helps at the margins
yeah yeah prosperous bullshit, by making statues and formula one tracks?? while their people die of hunger ? and by inaugurating street toilet competitions so to increase smog around your cities...what a prosperity clapping!...indians are born notunkeez (actors) livin on fake fantasies their entire life and propagating them through their diplomatic channels...
https://www.google.com.pk/amp/s/m.t...ula-one-hamilton/amp_articleshow/66646251.cms

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-45978120

You need to study the might of US consumer market. From where Indian and Chinese earn money boasted there economy, recent tax and tariff on Chinese products etc, impact on Chinese economy due to these billions of dollar taxes ....etc etc... US is titanic , those who think it will slow down in coming years... no don t think so. Halt on immigrant worker from India also has adverse affect on Indian economy.
i am not a economist , but i think china is giving a tough time to usa in recent trade war . titanic is history and you probably know that what happend to it.
 
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The obnoxious orange oaf isn’t the problem, it’s the people whispering in his ear and our inability to counter-influence the efforts that are being made to make life more difficult for us via US policy.
 
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Yeah. I think we should now stop being defensive and adopt some aggressive attitude towards US....

There should be strong response from our foreign office. This orange guy needs a reality check



He doesn't have much time for Pakistan, sadly :)
What exactly can you do.
Out of your total exports of 22 billion dollars exports, 7 billion are directly to us.
Plus even few sanctions can complicate you further.
They have already started creating trouble through Afghanistan .
They only have to fund afghan lunatics and you can get hired ones very easily.
Trump has shown his clear hatred for Muslims, and I just pity bin salman . How much is this orange fool milk him .
Though he must have committed the murder but this orange man would really black mail them as country.
All we can do right now is stay quiet .
And hope he may have other important things that keep him occupied rather then focusing on Pakistan. We must hire anothor stromy Daniels for him and he would be fine.. Lol
 
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No ehtesab on this issue then? Can we also forget about Abbotabad commission report too?
done deal sir. what else is there?
it was a failure on many counts. CIA left Afridi for us to chew on.
in case of ehtesab the intelligence chiefs will point out at the fact that they were the ones who tipped off the CIA about the courier which confirmed CIA suspicions but CIA didnt tell them that the courier was known to them and kept the information to them but still they stand accused of failing .
 
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