There is no unity among people in Pakistan.

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

How would this "hybrid race" have been different to what we have on our side of the border, were the border to have been

1) Cut North South from Kashmir to Kanyakumari

2) Cut at the level of the Vindhyas, separating the ANI from the ASI (Atanz's bordering on dangerously looking like apes .....)

3) Cut at the level of the Indus (the ancestral divide between the Indic and Iranic civilizations for thousands of years)

4) Cut at the level of undivided Bengal (Ataz's Chairman Mao's .....)

Have no idea what you are talking about. All I know is that people of Pakistani racial heritage are physically different from those of indian heritage. This was proved again to me when I came back from Eid prayers at a multiracial Mosque in London that is not far from an area with a lot of indians.

Okay, okay, okay now that I have snorted some cocaine let me see again

Sikh man speaking Punjabi, Punjabi culture.

Adivisi Indian who also believe in one god and their national dress is Shalwar Kameez oh sorry "Salwar Kamej"

Ladakhi lady whose mother tonge is Sanskrit and is fully paid up Bharatia.

Telagu speakers which we know is dialect of Hindi and you see them dancing on Bollywood everyday.

These regular Indian ladies from Nagaland or is it Myanmar. Anyway that is also part of Bharatshava.

And our friend from lower Bharat - He is pure vegetarian Hindu

Orrisan Dalit

Yes, we are all Indian. What did I say we are all Indiiiiiaaaaaan. We have same culture, we eat through our mouths, we use our mouth to talk even if some of us grunt. Clebrate "unity in diversity".

Now Eid Mobarek to all and I am off to gain some weight.

Bro I love you.......but I'm feeling physically sick after looking at those indians..

You've just admitted Pakistan is a hybrid "race."

I was asking you how would the hybridization, and more importantly the narrative, have change over 70 odd years were the border to have been drawn differently.

Hope I was clear this time around?

Drawn differently in what respect? If Pakistan had more territory or if it did not exist at all?

 

[vsdoc]

Drawn differently in what respect? If Pakistan had more territory or if it did not exist at all?

Sigh.

You're just a pretty white face with a muscular martial stature.

Cheers, Doc

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Sigh.

You're just a pretty white face with a muscular martial stature.

Cheers, Doc

Not white but light olive skinned.

 

[halupridol]

Not happening because Pakistanis are so vastly different from indians in every possible way that we have virtually nothing in common and are therefore no compatibility with eachother whatsoever. It's like saying soon that China, Brazil and Germany will become a part of india.

as @Atanz already said,,,we r far more diverse ourselve,yet we r united,,,,,so assimilating Pakistanis,,who allegedly r 'different' is definately not a impossibility.

 

[saadee]

Another French bonehead obsessed with Pakistan. Must be Jewish.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

as @Atanz already said,,,we r far more diverse ourselve,yet we r united,,,,,so assimilating Pakistanis,,who allegedly r 'different' is definately not a impossibility.

Not allegedly but factually very different. Thanks for the offer but we'll give it a miss. Think you're best stop for that would be bangladesh.

 

[I M Sikander]

How much freedom movement are you seeing Kashmir?...next to none. May be some flag flying by some local goons.

The fact that Pakistan has kept itself hostage to Kashmir show how much you depends on India for unity.

Kashmiris hate india from the core of their heart and want freedom. You are oppressor and thats why india has 7 lakh army dogs in valley to crush the freedom struggle.

Infact it is india who is pakistan centric.

 

[I M Sikander]

We don't hate Pakistanis, nor do we want to destroy ourselves to destroy Pakistan.

I wish there were few more like you on our eastern side.

 

[Viper 94]

Pakistan needs India to remain united

it is actually the other way
every election in india is centered around pakistan policy
while in pakistan its not even an issue

if india lets say disintegrates into smaller states based on ethnicities or religious groups
pakistan will become stronger as india's power to meddle in pakistan will seriously diminish

one of the reasons india has remain united in due to a weaker central government, the states which are more or less divided based on ethnicities have incredible amount of autonomy
while pakistan's central government tries to overpower the provincial governments
this has proved to be disastrous especially in the case of bangladesh
it was virtually impossible for the central government based in west pakistan to assert its control over a province thousands of miles away and completely surrounded by a hostile country

 

[nForce]

it is actually the other way
every election in india is centered around pakistan policy
while in pakistan its not even an issue

if india lets say disintegrates into smaller states based on ethnicities or religious groups
pakistan will become stronger as india's power to meddle in pakistan will seriously diminish

one of the reasons india has remain united in due to a weaker central government, the states which are more or less divided based on ethnicities have incredible amount of autonomy
while pakistan's central government tries to overpower the provincial governments
this has proved to be disastrous especially in the case of bangladesh
it was virtually impossible for the central government based in west pakistan to assert its control over a province thousands of miles away and completely surrounded by a hostile country

Oh dear god. How many Indian election campaigns you have seen so far ?

 

[xyxmt]

We are United as ever. An outsider might not visualise. But our Army sacrifices and contributions made us stand on one page.
I doubt he is an expert on international affairs.

because these so called experts see unity in a language, oh yes in France everyone speaks same language so they is a sense of nationalism and unity. what these idiots dont realize that in Pakistan people speak many different languages yet they are all united when time comes....in fact there is more unity in Pakistan and India also than there is unity in France or US.

when we have gatherings of Pakistanis here in Canada people from different language background come together, giving up their local languages and speaking their national language. In Pakistan people have no choice but here in Canada people have choice but everyone chooses to be a Pakistani than Punjabi or Sindhi, or Pathan or Urdu speaker.

 

[zebra7]

Oh dear god. How many Indian election campaigns you have seen so far ?

Indians are always obsessed with Indians!!

Indians have Pakistan centric in Elections !!

I am amused with these kinds of statement

 

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because these so called experts see unity in a language, oh yes in France everyone speaks same language so they is a sense of nationalism and unity. what these idiots dont realize that in Pakistan people speak many different languages yet they are all united when time comes....in fact there is more unity in Pakistan and India also than there is unity in France or US.

when we have gatherings of Pakistanis here in Canada people from different language background come together, giving up their local languages and speaking their national language. In Pakistan people have no choice but here in Canada people have choice but everyone chooses to be a Pakistani than Punjabi or Sindhi, or Pathan or Urdu speaker.

One cannot expect from a foreigner to be an expert on our matters. Nor can we expect from a foreigner to understand us. Can we?

 

[VelocuR]

Pakistan is totally failed state, same old propaganda........

 

[Thorough Pro]

Our freedom to express ourselves and courage to discuss the issues must not betaken as a sign of fragmentation. We are open-minded, big-hearted and courageous people ready to discuss all issues, have different opinions but still be a strong, resilient and progressive nation and our enemies know it better. Together we live and die for our motherland.

“Pakistan crystallised as a nation against India but there is no unity among its people,” said Dr Christophe Jaffrelot, French scholar and senior research fellow of Centre d’Etudes et de Recherches Internationales (The Center for International Studies and Research).
“It’s nationalism without a nation”, he claimed. “To decentralise provinces is to strengthen them and not weaken them.”

Jaffrelot was addressing the audience during the launch of his book, ‘The Pakistan Paradox: Instability and Resilience’, at Alliance Française on Monday.

Explaining instability

“The book is an attempt at identifying the variables that explain the political trajectory of Pakistan,” he said. Jafrrelot discusses main sources of tensions in Pakistan that continue to promote instability.

According to Jafrrelot, the tension between the centralised and different ethno-lingual groups is of formidable significance. “Those in favour of ethno-linguist federation were present before Pakistan came into being,” he said. “It can also be related to Muslim League as their demand of a separate electorate was a form of separatism.”

Lahore Resolution also called for autonomy for provinces, he argued. It was after partition that Jinnah mentioned the provinces as a unitary state, he claimed.

“This alienated the decentralisation process,” he said. “The first centrifugal process began in 1950s, resulting in another partition in 1971.”

In a similar context, Jaffrelot mentioned the guerilla wars of Balochistan and other separatist movements as cases that created instability in the country.

Struggle for power

The scholar then shed light on the power struggle between democrats and autocrats. Although a democratisation process has been witnessed in Pakistani history, democracy has yet to be implemented, he argued.

“There is a balance of civilian and military power in the façade of democracy.”

Identity crises

Another dilemma facing the country is the identity crisis faced by the populace, he said. There is no consensus regarding an Islamic identity that the citizens can adhere to, he claimed.

“This was also absent before the Pakistan movement due to the division between the Aligarh and the Deobandi school of thought, that crystallised after 1857,” he argued. “Sir Syed Ahmed Khan’s role was that of a modern reformist while Deobandis were an ideological group, favouring a separatist agenda”.

The constitutions of 1956 and 1962 were similar in terms of religious ideology but the divergence mushroomed in the 1970s, he argued. “Role of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto [Pakistan Peoples' Party founder] should be scrutinised in this regard,” he opined.

Anti-Americanism

Jaffrelot discussed the surge of anti-American sentiment in the wake of the 9/11 attack and the Afghan War. “The culminating point of this trajectory was the Lal Masjid incident,” he said.

He briefly talked about how the domestic scene of Pakistan is affected by external dynamics. This dependency affects the national self-esteem of the country, he added.

His book is released world wide and can be bought through Amazon.

Published in The Express Tribune, September 23rd, 2015