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the word "india" refers to present day pakistan

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That's a lot of BS in one article. Just how confused are some Pakistanis about their identity? Sometimes they are Indians. Sometimes they are descendants of Arabs. Once in a while they claim the legacy of Mughals (a central Indian empire). Sometimes they even lay claim to the Mysore based Tipu Sultan. Forge a national identity and be proud of it instead of constantly questioning your own identity.
 
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That's a lot of BS in one article. Just how confused are some Pakistanis about their identity? Sometimes they are Indians. Sometimes they are descendants of Arabs. Once in a while they claim the legacy of Mughals (a central Indian empire). Sometimes they even lay claim to the Mysore based Tipu Sultan. Forge a national identity and be proud of it instead of constantly questioning your own identity.

No ones questioning identities...except for the same usual folks...

We're just discussing history here.
 
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That's a lot of BS in one article. Just how confused are some Pakistanis about their identity? Sometimes they are Indians. Sometimes they are descendants of Arabs. Once in a while they claim the legacy of Mughals (a central Indian empire). Sometimes they even lay claim to the Mysore based Tipu Sultan. Forge a national identity and be proud of it instead of constantly questioning your own identity.
Only confused here is you. Pakistan have Mughals, Sheiks and all kind off diverse ethnic group living here. I am Mughal, my ancestors (grand parents) have a book back home tracing our lineage. I am not alone, some of my cousins whose parents never married outside into other ethnicities have central Asian look alike Kids. Turk moguls are born with certain facial and skin features. We can be identified with them. We even have nicknames for some cousins like Russian, gora and so on.

I know many Hindu converts ( specially dalits) in India adopted names and lineage to distinguish themselves but Pakistan is a geographical next to Central Asia and ME, so different story.
 
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I think we should start calling Pakistani people as Hindu. They seem to want that.
 
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No...did I say that you have to stamp labels on your forehead??

Don't you already have a Chinese label on your forehead? :D
Even Erdogan has abandoned you beta....your funds have come to a halt... you better prepare for your last Uygur jihad ..remnants of ETIM likes of you are awaiting hell.

Sindhu is the local name of the Southern Indus River part....go read a history book. :rolleyes:
lol and that is the present day Sindh..it was always the name of the river..the rivers name was the lands identity.
thank you genious...come back again.

Source??

There's nothing to "copy".....please get this 3rd grade public Pakistani school thing out of your head....if 2 people call the region a same name...it doesn't mean they're "copying" each other or that one is copying the other....similar names can come out of 2 different places like how Greeks called Indians east of Indus "Indou" and the Persians called the Indians "Hindu".....spoken.....the words are very familiar.

And what did Sindhis practice before Islam??? They practiced Hinduism so they're Hindus.
And before Hinduism they were practicing Buddhism so are they Buddhist today?


Just because I say Tomayto & you say Tomahto.....doesn't mean we're copying each other...
Hindustan is derived from the Persian word Hindū cognate with the Sanskrit Sindhu.The Proto-Iranian sound change *s > h occurred between 850–600 BCE, according to Asko Parpola Sindhologist.
Proves the original name before vedics and sanskrits was Sindhu.. as persians were their closest neighbors right across the river....Arabs just learn it from Persians later.

LOL

Buddhism came after Hinduism....please stop spreading bs...Buddhism and Hinduism co-existed in modern day Pakistan in ancient times.....and what do you think being a pagan means???

Paganism = the worshipping of multiple god/goddesses......the same thing Hindus do! :lol:

thats why you are not in this league dude..buddhism was here from before As A RELIGION....whereas hinduism existed as a CULTURE before it.. which included many things like caste and roles. the word 'HINDU' was originally used to refer to the people living along the Indus river..IT WAS NOT A RELIGION BACK THEN. HINDUISM later on started developing as a religion DURING VEDIC TIMES....
Also dont confuse Vedic religions with contemporary hinduism. which has many influences from Buddhism.
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According to Heinrich von Stietencron, in the 19th century, in western publications, the Vedic religion was believed to be different from and unrelated to Hinduism. The Hindu religion was thought to be linked to the Hindu epics and the Puranas through sects based on Purohita, Tantras and Bhakti. In the 20th century, a better understanding of the Vedic religion, its shared heritage and theology with contemporary Hinduism, has led scholars to view the historical Vedic religion as ancestral to "Hinduism".[6] The Hindu reform movements and the Neo-Vedanta have emphasized the Vedic heritage and "ancient Hinduism", and this term has been co-opted by some Hindus.[6] Vedic religion is now generally accepted to be a predecessor of Hinduism, but they are not the same because the textual evidence suggests significant differences between the two, such as the belief in an afterlife instead of the later developed reincarnation and samsāra concepts.[8]
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As for pagan thing dont fry your brain.. equating it to hinduism..you are rookie stay a rookie..
i was talking bout shamanism, and particularly Yakshuk cult that existed in Harappa culture.We dont even understand fully what they practiced, we dont know the religion of IVC people.
 
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Even Erdogan has abandoned you beta....your funds have come to a halt... you better prepare for your last Uygur jihad ..remnants of ETIM likes of you are awaiting hell.


lol and that is the present day Sindh..it was always the name of the river..the rivers name was the lands identity.
thank you genious...come back again.


Hindustan is derived from the Persian word Hindū cognate with the Sanskrit Sindhu.The Proto-Iranian sound change *s > h occurred between 850–600 BCE, according to Asko Parpola Sindhologist.
Proves the original name before vedics and sanskrits was Sindhu.. as persians were their closest neighbors right across the river....Arabs just learn it from Persians later.



thats why you are not in this league dude..buddhism was here from before As A RELIGION hinduism existed as a CULTURE before it.. which included many things like caste and roles. the word 'HINDU' was originally used to refer to the people living along the Indus river..IT WAS NOT A RELIGION BACK THEN. HINDUISM later on started developing as a religion DURING VEDIC TIMES....
Also dont confuse Vedic religions with contemporary hinduism. which has many influences from Buddhism.
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According to Heinrich von Stietencron, in the 19th century, in western publications, the Vedic religion was believed to be different from and unrelated to Hinduism. The Hindu religion was thought to be linked to the Hindu epics and the Puranas through sects based on Purohita, Tantras and Bhakti. In the 20th century, a better understanding of the Vedic religion, its shared heritage and theology with contemporary Hinduism, has led scholars to view the historical Vedic religion as ancestral to "Hinduism".[6] The Hindu reform movements and the Neo-Vedanta have emphasized the Vedic heritage and "ancient Hinduism", and this term has been co-opted by some Hindus.[6] Vedic religion is now generally accepted to be a predecessor of Hinduism, but they are not the same because the textual evidence suggests significant differences between the two, such as the belief in an afterlife instead of the later developed reincarnation and samsāra concepts.[8]
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As for pagan thing dont fry your brain.. equating it to hinduism..you are rookie stay a rookie..
i was talking bout shamanism, and particularly Yakshuk cult that existed in Harappa culture.We dont even understand fully what they practiced, we dont know the religion of IVC people.

Lmao....don't even know where to start....where you accuse me of being a Jihadist or where you're posting wrong info...:lol:
 
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Wow, that is new to me. Indonesian language (Malay language) is also quite close to Tamil language. I think there should be another video talking about similarity between Indonesian (Malay language) with other Indian languages. South is selatan in Indonesian.


In Aceh province, the region in Indonesia which is closest to India you also can see people with face resemble to South Asian people.

Aceh girl

Uttara and dakshina are Sanskrit words
 
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its thier actual name but british donkeys never do anythinh right.. they demanded bharat but brits gave em india


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And who kept it after brits? the indians...
 
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India [Gangadesh]

"Gangadesh" means nothing to me, me being someone from the Deccan. Even though I am an Internationalist I am irritated by someone attaching to me the badlands of UP.

I would wish for you to relate Tipu Sultan's legacy to me. However, Tipu is not only relatable to Deccani culture but also to entire South Asia, as there was no one like him in the entire Subcontinent.
 
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We are happy with the name Pakistan. India and Indian word is associated with filth these days. Thanks to Indian habit of covering themselves with coconut and curry while defecating everywhere except the toilets.
 
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Just in big city centres .......
but english is still the lingua franca

Cholas has huge impact on Indonesia
Wow, that is new to me. Indonesian language (Malay language) is also quite close to Tamil language. I think there should be another video talking about similarity between Indonesian (Malay language) with other Indian languages. South is selatan in Indonesian.


In Aceh province, the region in Indonesia which is closest to India you also can see people with face resemble to South Asian people.

Aceh girl

 
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Source /proof ?
No it does not.
It issues two officials names: Republic of India in English and Bharat Ganarajya

Govt of Pakistan should officially start referring India as Bahart, Hindustan or Gangudesh.
Used to be called much more than India when I was younger,Beforethe advent of satellite channels
'aj Pakistan aur Bharat ka.match hay '

That's a lot of BS in one article. Just how confused are some Pakistanis about their identity? Sometimes they are Indians. Sometimes they are descendants of Arabs. Once in a while they claim the legacy of Mughals (a central Indian empire). Sometimes they even lay claim to the Mysore based Tipu Sultan. Forge a national identity and be proud of it instead of constantly questioning your own identity.
Did he even talk about identity.jn the article ?.he uncovered some myths about what was called what , back then. And what Europe.did to us. Article.ks asking to reclaim history and not change the names which we have.now. Have a coffee and read again

Only confused here is you. Pakistan have Mughals, Sheiks and all kind off diverse ethnic group living here. I am Mughal, my ancestors (grand parents) have a book back home tracing our lineage. I am not alone, some of my cousins whose parents never married outside into other ethnicities have central Asian look alike Kids. Turk moguls are born with certain facial and skin features. We can be identified with them. We even have nicknames for some cousins like Russian, gora and so on.

I know many Hindu converts ( specially dalits) in India adopted names and lineage to distinguish themselves but Pakistan is a geographical next to Central Asia and ME, so different story.
How.i love.your reply. So which clan you belong to then ?
 
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