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The West Must Change Its Approach to Bangladesh to Protect Democracy

bangladesh is our protectorate ... we wont allow western influence there... bangladesh is not egypt.. :yay:

Just keeping stooge like Awami League does not mean having a "protectorate". You indians need to worry about how to hold together india, Red corridor, entire NE and occupied territories of Kashmir, Sikkim, Arunachal from China and occupied territories from Bangladesh. Looking for "protectorate" is way out of indian league.
 
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Don't troll here mate, your particular brand of humor may not find many takers here- at least not sans plenty of vitriol.

Waise, as always you remain an enigma, someday I shall figure out a thing or two about you.:)

All bangladeshis love me .. including @idunes and munsi .. you are just a jealous indian... :lol:
 
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On the topic, west, most specifically US will not change its interest base position, we have to make sure US looking through delhi's prism is not beneficial for US interest.
 
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Jamaat is predisposed towards tacitly supporting extremist elements and "non-state actors" working in concert with Islamic terror modules- whether domestic or international.

It is not a matter of what BD has done or can do or may do or could attempt to do. No one has posited any argument against BD's right to act in its interests either. We are simply doing what we see fit and so are you. We have found high levels of intransigence on many issues and have thus taken appropriate steps, BD is free to do the same. Take for example the Felani case, her death albeit tragic does not change that fact that she was engaged in illegally crossing the international border, India has made it known time and time again that such illegals are not welcome and shall be dealt with up to the point of being met with lethal force and yet the situation continues to remain the same- all the political factions in BD are apathetic towards the situation. As such, as I stated before, we have taken appropriate action where and when we have seen fit to do so and where and when it has been within our means. We shall continue to do the same as it is within our best interests regardless of the fact that it is a cause for great consternation and furor among the BD populace. Transit has been an issue and ergo we have undertaken the Kaladan multi-modal transit project to render the need for direct over land transit through BD non-essential, despite certain teething issues related with said venture, within a period of little more than a decade. As I have already stated, the relationship between the two nations shall be based on quid pro quo, absent that we at least will act and have acted unilaterally- BD is always free to do the same.

Quid pro quo is fine in writing.BD as per India and Indians are so insignificant that it does not arise any discussion in Indian politics.strangely that also happens in media fine writing.as per gov. And ppl of BD is concern India as a big neighbor is a bully and a constant threat to BDs democracy .as you mentioned you will not give if you don't get.vic a Vic if constantly poke someone you are bound to get reciprocal .hate is a tow sided sword
As example given-Falani will be an example to remained us the true face of our so called friend.India has completed 90 % of fencing along indo-BD boarder why not the rest?BD has a 0% chance of getting back its rightful land mass from India ever.less resource full BD ppl will seek employment where they are comfortable because of our cultural tie.if illegal workers are an issue ,India as a powerful nation and capable should scout and send back the intended workers back.which by law understandable and except able. But killing innocent ppl in the name of law is barbaric and inhumane. No matter what name you give.because there are plenty of example of BD boarder guard incident to prove we handed over Indian ppl illegally crossing BD boarder back alive to India.BGB could have killed them in the name of law and you couldn't have done a single thing.there is a documentary about Indian villagers who are involve in cartel smuggling with BD who frequently cross boarder illegally and go back harm less and alive.that's the fundamental deference between BD and India.we may be poor but we are humans. Can you say the same thing about you?
 
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Influence, beneficial or otherwise, exercised by another always leads to a dilution of autonomy. As I have already stated, it is not my concern who the people chose as the wielder of said influence. If we perceive something to be against our best interests or as disruptive of the stability of the Indian subcontinent then we shall act according to our means and our objectives.

Your perception regarding the nature of one political party or another is a non-issue and has no bearing on our interests- as such it is patently absent relevance. Whether the BNP is a nationalistic party or not is not within our ambit to comment upon nor indicative of whether they can provide an avenue for beneficial relations or not. We shall act in a manner which is in accordance to directives predicated by our needs and what we view to be in the greater interest of the relationship between the two nations- including which faction we may tacitly endorse or agree with.

Jamaat by its very composition is an extremist organisation which opposes liberal thought and idolizes theocracy under the garb of asserting political privileges within a democratic setup, as such they are and shall largely remain persona non grata (collectively) as far as we our concerned.

As the nature of a political party is none of India's concern and only interests matter then please refrain from weeping river regarding JeI's stance against aspiration of BD people (or whatever) and better speak in interests' term. Don't be inconsistent or a hypocrite.
 
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Governments will always make relationships with governments. The people of India (Bengalis) will form relationships with Bangladeshis.

The Bangladeshi people voted in the BAL Government, it is an immense snook to BD sovereignty if the GoI bypassed them and delved into the internal politics of the country.

But when BD people vote in the BNP India bypasses it.
 
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when west intervenes, you will start crying.. oh west intervened in another muslim country.. for gas (or tiger.. whatver suits you)... US is not really happy with hasina govt but they have full support of congress led GoI.. :)

It's not intervening per se but helping to safeguard the pro-Bangladesh patriotic majority against the oppresssion of anti-national undemocratic oppressive force. This is necessary for stability in this country (which is in the interest of all parties involved perhaps except India).
 
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Time and conditions has changed a lot after 9/11. If you, Islamist think that you can fool around the west, as you were doing before 9/11, and gain the sympathies of common people in west, then you are living in fools paradise. West now know your well known tactics like this one 'Platform', 08-10 Jamati Islamist coming together, exploiting freedom of speech and trying to fool around.

Now the reality is, west did not given a hoot to the Egyptian incidents and why would you think, it is going to care about Bangladeshi Islamist?? Who are paying and reaping for their '71 & '75 deeds. This is the same west you hypocrites, whom you are cursing with every breath. Wake Up, honeymoon days are over decade ago and a lot of water flown through the bridges since 9/11. It is best for you to come to terms and inline with rest of the world or world will brought you inline!!!!!
 
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Jamaat is predisposed towards tacitly supporting extremist elements and "non-state actors" working in concert with Islamic terror modules- whether domestic or international.


It is not a matter of what BD has done or can do or may do or could attempt to do. No one has posited any argument against BD's right to act in its interests either. We are simply doing what we see fit and so are you. We have found high levels of intransigence on many issues and have thus taken appropriate steps, BD is free to do the same. Take for example the Felani case, her death albeit tragic does not change that fact that she was engaged in illegally crossing the international border, India has made it known time and time again that such illegals are not welcome and shall be dealt with up to the point of being met with lethal force and yet the situation continues to remain the same- all the political factions in BD are apathetic towards the situation. As such, as I stated before, we have taken appropriate action where and when we have seen fit to do so and where and when it has been within our means. We shall continue to do the same as it is within our best interests regardless of the fact that it is a cause for great consternation and furor among the BD populace. Transit has been an issue and ergo we have undertaken the Kaladan multi-modal transit project to render the need for direct over land transit through BD non-essential, despite certain teething issues related with said venture, within a period of little more than a decade. As I have already stated, the relationship between the two nations shall be based on quid pro quo, absent that we at least will act and have acted unilaterally- BD is always free to do the same.

Forget about JI if it is extremist Islamist or not, which is the concern of Bangladeshis at first, and the most importantly, it's a democratic party, unlike Talibans, that it shall not do any thing undemocratic without the mandate of the majority; and so far you have failed to say how JI has wreaked India in any way. I know the reason exactly why you cannot make a single point that says India is harmed by JI in any way. Because, if you point out any thing like that, your claim of quid pro quo from the side of India would seem invalid. For example, you wanted Transit, okay fine, but without commensurate payment that BD deserves. And since AL is an ally of India and deceitful to BD, it does not mind if BD does not get proportional benefit from the transit deal. On the other hand, Jamat being a pro-BD and educated political party, opposes the imbalanced transit deal with India and also other uneven/unfair deals. Therefore, as JI does not bow to India's illegitimate and unfair offers, you call them extremist, but you do not say that JI is your hurdles to achieve your unfair deals. So you have taken a preemptive action to label JI as extremist so that they get rejected by the Bangladeshi first, and your unfair jobs get done easily with the help of BAL. Otherwise, how a little party is a threat to mighty country India!

And I have no problem if you kill Bangladeshis while cross your border illegally. I will not blame you and I will not bring the issue of humanity here that India will not understand.
 
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The West do not like Muslims. They do not mind seeing Bangladesh remain a vassal state of India, under pro-India Awamli League rule, even if they come to power in a rigged election. So no help should be expected from the West.

Currently india is US ally, so they don't bother now. Some of us get very delighted when we see something against our govt. activities comes from Western govt., fact is this is their duplicitous role or sole neutral view which doesn't make them take any decision against their strategic stand.
 
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