The West Must Change Its Approach to Bangladesh to Protect Democracy

[kbd-raaf]

One of many is making friendship with Awami League instead of BANGLADESH, and engineering the political situation in BD using BAL to suppress BNP and its allies.

Governments will always make relationships with governments. The people of India (Bengalis) will form relationships with Bangladeshis.

The Bangladeshi people voted in the BAL Government, it is an immense snook to BD sovereignty if the GoI bypassed them and delved into the internal politics of the country.

 

[Skies]

Indeed. We should have instead attempted to cultivate a fruitful working relationship with the Hefajotis- who are about as firm in their belief that all we deserve is hell fire as we are in our belief that it is our sole prerogative to endorse whosoever we wish to endorse, or not if situation demands.

Unless you cut your tie with BAL, the 50-60% of Bangladeshis will hate IN. And Hefajotis have problem with BAL to whom India is an ally. And HeI would not have born if BAL had not made such situation.

 

[Dillinger]

Unless you cut your tie with BAL, the 50-60% of Bangladeshis will hate IN. And Hefajotis have problem with BAL to whom India is an ally. And HeI would not have born if BAL had not made such situation.

There is no alternative in Bangladesh apart from AL. The rest of the political factions are composed of fundamentalists and extremists as far as we are concerned. Beyond that the sentiments of the people are not our concern. Quid pro quo is the way forward, if we do not receive then we shall not give. We will bypass the issue arising due to any intransigence on Bangladesh's part, let Bangladesh do the same with its issues in that regard.

 

[Skies]

There is no alternative in Bangladesh apart from AL. The rest of the political factions are composed of fundamentalists and extremists as far as we are concerned. Beyond that the sentiments of the people are not our concern. Quid pro quo is the way forward, if we do not receive then we shall not give. We will bypass the issue arising due to any intransigence on Bangladesh's part, let Bangladesh do the same with its issues in that regard.

The amount of innocent Bangladeshis killed by BAL in this BAL regime is never less than the amount killed by any other party in BD from the inception of BD's existence. Therefore, BAL will be rejected in the next election by the peaceful, harmless, common majority of BD, but you are saying BD has no alternative other than BAL! Wait till the next election, you will know that BAL is the minority in BD to whom you supported and earned the wrath of common BDans .

 

[Dillinger]

The amount of innocent Bangladeshis killed by BAL in this BAL regime is never less than the amount killed by any other party in BD from the inception of BD's existence. Therefore, BAL will be rejected in the next election by the peaceful, harmless, common majority of BD, but you are saying BAL has no alternative in BD!

BNP has shown rare glimpses of pragmatism but is not particularly dependable. Bangladesh shall be, to one extent or the other, influenced by one larger power or another. There is simply no other scenario that can fructify. The nature, quantum and effects of said influence can vary but the choice shall always remain the same. Beyond that the Bangladeshi people are free to chose which country shall wield the aforementioned influence. Their choice does not extend beyond that by any appreciable margin. So yes, at the current moment we do not see any dependable alternative to AL. Perhaps if further steps are taken to ameliorate the political situation in Bangladesh through even stricter actions against extremists belonging to the Jamaat clan and if these actions remain effective well into the tenure of any other party then we may revisit and perhaps alter the equation.

 

[dray]

China may not love the Muslim, but they do not have any problem with any single Muslim country either.

We do not have problem with India because of religion, but India's evil policy

They will, the moment they discover some Chinese had walked on some Muslim land twenty thousand years ago.
Meanwhile you can check this link; this might help you become future-ready.

China bans Uighur Muslims from fasting during Ramadan | ummid.com

 

[kalu_miah]

The amount of innocent Bangladeshis killed by BAL in this BAL regime is never less than the amount killed by any other party in BD from the inception of BD's existence. Therefore, BAL will be rejected in the next election by the peaceful, harmless, common majority of BD, but you are saying BD has no alternative other than BAL! Wait till the next election, you will know that BAL is the minority in BD to whom you supported and earned the wrath of common BDans .

The Indian is confident because Awami League has already made failure proof arrangement for rigging election, with multiple level of redundancy built in. India and Awami League and the West, do not care about public support, they know public support and votes are not needed as long as you can stuff ballots.

The only thing that will work is after a rigged election, an outraged public together with patriotic soldiers in the military, hunt down and eliminate every Indian agent within the country, from Generals in RAW pay roll to mid and low level Awami League goons.

If Bangladeshi public do not rise up and wipe clean AL from Bangladesh land, then they deserve to be slaves of India. Clueless idiots deserve no better.

 

[livingdead]

when west intervenes, you will start crying.. oh west intervened in another muslim country.. for gas (or tiger.. whatver suits you)... US is not really happy with hasina govt but they have full support of congress led GoI..

 

[SirHatesALot]

The Indian is confident because Awami League has already made failure proof arrangement for rigging election, with multiple level of redundancy built in. India and Awami League and the West, do not care about public support, they know public support and votes are not needed as long as you can stuff ballots.

The only thing that will work is after a rigged election, an outraged public together with patriotic soldiers in the military, hunt down and eliminate every Indian agent within the country, from Generals in RAW pay roll to mid and low level Awami League goons.

If Bangladeshi public do not rise up and wipe clean AL from the face of the earth, then they deserve to be slaves of India. Clueless idiots deserve no better.

Don't call Bangladeshi people idiots
Their choice is right,after all we are natural allies

 

[Skies]

BNP has shown rare glimpses of pragmatism but is not particularly dependable. Bangladesh shall be, to one extent or the other, influenced by one larger power or another. There is simply no other scenario that can fructify. The nature, quantum and effects of said influence can vary but the choice shall always remain the same. Beyond that the Bangladeshi people are free to chose which country shall wield the aforementioned influence. Their choice does not extend beyond that by any appreciable margin. So yes, at the current moment we do not see any dependable alternative to AL. Perhaps if further steps are taken to ameliorate the political situation in Bangladesh through even stricter actions against extremists belonging to the Jamaat clan and if these actions remain effective well into the tenure of any other party then we may revisit and perhaps alter the equation.

No in fact, BNP is the only nationalist party that can keep the interest of BD best. And the nature, quantum and effects of said influence can be fruitful to BD if our ally is chosen carefully like China and unlike India.

And what Jammat has done to India so far? Actually, Jammat can not do anything to India. You have made Jammat anti Indian as you support BAL that has done injustice to them.

 

[Dillinger]

No in fact, BNP is the only nationalist party that can keep the interest of BD best. And the nature, quantum and effects of said influence can be fruitful to BD if our ally is chosen carefully like China and unlike India.

And what Jammat has done to India so far? Actually, Jammat can not do anything to India. You have made Jammat anti Indian as you support BAL that has done injustice to them.

Influence, beneficial or otherwise, exercised by another always leads to a dilution of autonomy. As I have already stated, it is not my concern who the people chose as the wielder of said influence. If we perceive something to be against our best interests or as disruptive of the stability of the Indian subcontinent then we shall act according to our means and our objectives.

Your perception regarding the nature of one political party or another is a non-issue and has no bearing on our interests- as such it is patently absent relevance. Whether the BNP is a nationalistic party or not is not within our ambit to comment upon nor indicative of whether they can provide an avenue for beneficial relations or not. We shall act in a manner which is in accordance to directives predicated by our needs and what we view to be in the greater interest of the relationship between the two nations- including which faction we may tacitly endorse or agree with.

Jamaat by its very composition is an extremist organisation which opposes liberal thought and idolizes theocracy under the garb of asserting political privileges within a democratic setup, as such they are and shall largely remain persona non grata (collectively) as far as we our concerned.

 

[Skies]

Influence, beneficial or otherwise, exercised by another always leads to a dilution of autonomy. As I have already stated, it is not my concern who the people chose as the wielder of said influence. If we perceive something to be against our best interests or as disruptive of the stability of the Indian subcontinent then we shall act according to our means and our objectives.

Your perception regarding the nature of one political party or another is a non-issue and has no bearing on our interests- as such it is patently absent relevance. Whether the BNP is a nationalistic party or not is not within our ambit to comment upon nor indicative of whether they can provide an avenue for beneficial relations or not. We shall act in a manner which is in accordance to directives predicated by our needs and what we view to be in the greater interest of the relationship between the two nations- including which faction we may tacitly endorse or agree with.

Jamaat by its very composition is an extremist organisation which opposes liberal thought and idolizes theocracy under the garb of asserting political privileges within a democratic setup, as such they are and shall largely remain persona non grata (collectively) as far as we our concerned.

1. Actually, that is they way that we should think in. If we perceive something to be against our best interests, we shall accordingly. But what has BD done to India so far, that India should think BD as threat? We are very peaceful nation, and you have a big market here that you enjoy. Now where is the problem?

2. If Jammat is an extremist party, then that is our concern, not India's, until they harm you. How can a relatively small political party Jammat harm India as a big powerful country??? Please explain that.

Seems India is acting being pro-active, but unfortunately, that is what we need to be regarding hegemonic India.

 

[Dillinger]

1. Actually, that is they way that we should think in. If we perceive something to be against our best interests, we shall accordingly. But what has BD done to India so far, that India should think BD as threat? We are very peaceful nation, and you have a big market here that you enjoy. Now where is the problem?

2. If Jammat is an extremist party, then that is our concern, not India's, until they harm you. How can a relatively small political party Jammat harm India as a big powerful country??? Please explain that.

Seems India is acting being pro-active, but unfortunately, that is what we need to be regarding hegemonic India.

Jamaat is predisposed towards tacitly supporting extremist elements and "non-state actors" working in concert with Islamic terror modules- whether domestic or international.

It is not a matter of what BD has done or can do or may do or could attempt to do. No one has posited any argument against BD's right to act in its interests either. We are simply doing what we see fit and so are you. We have found high levels of intransigence on many issues and have thus taken appropriate steps, BD is free to do the same. Take for example the Felani case, her death albeit tragic does not change that fact that she was engaged in illegally crossing the international border, India has made it known time and time again that such illegals are not welcome and shall be dealt with up to the point of being met with lethal force and yet the situation continues to remain the same- all the political factions in BD are apathetic towards the situation. As such, as I stated before, we have taken appropriate action where and when we have seen fit to do so and where and when it has been within our means. We shall continue to do the same as it is within our best interests regardless of the fact that it is a cause for great consternation and furor among the BD populace. Transit has been an issue and ergo we have undertaken the Kaladan multi-modal transit project to render the need for direct over land transit through BD non-essential, despite certain teething issues related with said venture, within a period of little more than a decade. As I have already stated, the relationship between the two nations shall be based on quid pro quo, absent that we at least will act and have acted unilaterally- BD is always free to do the same.

 

[livingdead]

bangladesh is our protectorate ... we wont allow western influence there... bangladesh is not egypt..

 

[Dillinger]

bangladesh is our protectorate ... we wont allow western influence there... bangladesh is not egypt..

Don't troll here mate, your particular brand of humor may not find many takers here- at least not sans plenty of vitriol.

Waise, as always you remain an enigma, someday I shall figure out a thing or two about you.