The weridest part of China's protests is: Poeple ask government to stop its efforts. Instead make effort.

[Beast]

Many people, especially China or Xi's haters, haven't made their logic clear. The protects are actually to ask Chinese government to stop its efforts. This is like a boss tells his employee"Stop your work and take a rest. Or I'll fire you". Isn't this easiest choice to make? For those who asked Xi to quit, will they be happy if Xi leaves his office and goes to bed watching World Cup?

This is weirdest political movement I have even seen. How could that happen. Easy to explain. USA is of course the hand under the table. USA desperately needs an excuse to unrest China. Even it's "please have a rest" excuse. As long as it could instigate people's emotion, USA will grasp it.

I don't really think much US is involved. Clearly US has a stake in China economy. If China economy in mess, US like apple and Tesla wouldn't be better off. Trust me!

It will spoke economy crisis for US too.

 

[gambit]

There was a time, Chinese simply comply to the party out of good faith. That was then.

Chinese have much higher expectation for government than average American do to theirs. It won't help.

Good faith? More like ovine obedient. But you guys need to get yourselves straight, here you are telling us that Chinese are exceptional and recognize that state media is propaganda and cannot be trusted, but another of you told us most Chinese trust the Party and support these draconian COVID measures.

 

[kingQamaR]

A zero-COVID policy has proved to be completely unrealistic. Country after country has proved this. Every human on earth has had it or will get it. You would have more luck telling the tide not to come in.

 

[etylo]

You think the ministry is so stupid to do a study without adjustments?

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There are plenty of studies out there, not just from Singapore or HK. Continue coping.

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Lmao such narrow-mindedness. Citing multiple studies which indicates superiority of mRNA vaccines = western worshipper. Yeah, all studies done above are done by western worshippers.

You are the idiot who has been bashing chinese vaccines ever since the very beginning when Chinese vaccines just came out years ago, no surprise. So, what about HK, most people who took chinese vaccines are old people too, and most HKers take western vaccines and yet they have one of the highest deat rate in the world and so is your SG for taking western vaccines. There no complaints of all the billions of chinese vaccines exported to many countries, but a tiny few who took chinese vaccines from your tiny SG. I dont trust your numbers either.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

lol, it's like saying europeans are weaker people so they need to believe some higher being to survive. Average Chinerse are much more open minded than average American, and they are more likely to seek alternative sources of information, since they KNOW state media are propoganda. How many americans are aware that free media (aka corporate media) is also a tool of propoganda?

I'm actually saying that the Chinese people aren't that stupid as to allow themselves to be easily manipulated so defaulting blame to the CIA for everything is just a ridiculous quick Chinese cop-out answer in place of looking for the real reason.

My previous description is what it would take for the CIA to easily manipulate people. Do people really believe that is the reality of the typical Chinese citizen? Mindless sheep the CIA can command with the snap of a finger? Make them walk into the ocean like suicidal lemmings on a whim too?

 

[etylo]

Good faith? More like ovine obedient. But you guys need to get yourselves straight, here you are telling us that Chinese are exceptional and recognize that state media is propaganda and cannot be trusted, but another of you told us most Chinese trust the Party and support these draconian COVID measures.

Then, why didnt the americans rise up to rebel against the US gov for making over one million american deaths in the pandemic, are you people just slaves or what ?

 

[Dungeness]

Good faith? More like ovine obedient. But you guys need to get yourselves straight, here you are telling us that Chinese are exceptional and recognize that state media is propaganda and cannot be trusted, but another of you told us most Chinese trust the Party and support these draconian COVID measures.

That is not what I said. Let's not twist others' words.

I said Chinese know the state media is a propoganda machine and they are more likely to verify it with alternative source of information.

Chinese tend to accept zero covid policy because they knew the outcome of alternatives. But the same zero covid policy is getting tougher to implement as people are getting tired.

 

[Dungeness]

I'm actually saying that the Chinese people aren't that stupid as to allow themselves to be easily manipulated so defaulting blame to the CIA for everything is just a ridiculous quick Chinese cop-out answer in place of looking for the real reason.

My previous description is what it would take for the CIA to easily manipulate people. Do people really believe that is the reality of the typical Chinese citizen? Mindless sheep the CIA can command with the snap of a finger?

You are right, Chinese people actually are much more difficult to munipulate than many their counterparts. CIA has a long history of instigating conflicts in other countries, in fact it is their job, so it is fair for others to put it under scrutity. I don't know if those protests have anything to do CIA directly, but I do know some associated entities were in high gear past few days.

 

[Beast]

A greater failure: mRNA vaccines will soon be available as a choice only for foreigners in China. It's quite obvious at this point Xi is putting his face and politics above his people's lives.

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Can you prove mRNA is totally safe in the long run? Do u know clinical research and trial for a new medicine and vaccine usually takes 10 years to conclude?

And now we have record breaking vaccine using new method introduced into market due to urgency of covid pandemic in just a period of 1-2 years.

Inactive vaccine are a proven method utilized for 100 years. Can you provide me a report that no side effect from mRNA vaccine surface for a user or very minimal side effect ,in the period of 10 years?

Do u know that all mRNA vaccine user are a guinea pig for this new method deploy in medical field.... Including yourself which u brag about getting jab.

There is once a cancer treatment medicine which happened to cause adverse side effect on user after a period of 3-4 years on the human body. Subsequently, the medicine was disapproved for usage.

 

[Menthol]

You are right, Chinese people actually are much more difficult to munipulate than many their counterparts. CIA has a long history of instigating conflicts in other countries, in fact it is their job, so it is fair for others to put it under scrutity. I don't know if those protests have anything to do CIA directly, but I do know some associated entities were in high gear past few days.

Sorry bro, that's not true.

The protest is already hijacked by CIA.

Just look at the symbols and words on the street, it's all made by Taiwanese and HK CIA workers.


To be honest, China is just another USA's slave.

What makes China great is not China, but it's USA's mercy.


USA can simply just ordering Chinese to burn down entire China back to the stone age.

You probably think this is crazy, how can a Chinese burndown China, Chinese is China.

You'll see.


There will be a time in the near future, when USA will order the Chinese to be lazy, to slow down their economy and technological advancement.

From that time goes on, China will destroy its own culture and civilization, and start to look more and more like a poor developing country.

Imagine today's Japan.

It's not China that is taking control of Chinese, but USA.

 

[S10]

You are just delusional as you are extreme as usual.

Let's see who's delusional when Xi drags the rest of China along with his regime down in a few months.

 

[Menthol]

Many people, especially China or Xi's haters, haven't made their logic clear. The protects are actually to ask Chinese government to stop its efforts. This is like a boss tells his employee"Stop your work and take a rest. Or I'll fire you". Isn't this easiest choice to make? For those who asked Xi to quit, will they be happy if Xi leaves his office and goes to bed watching World Cup?

This is weirdest political movement I have even seen. How could that happen. Easy to explain. USA is of course the hand under the table. USA desperately needs an excuse to unrest China. Even it's "please have a rest" excuse. As long as it could instigate people's emotion, USA will grasp it.

You'll see, once China is stopping the Zero-Covid policy.

That is the time for USA to release the "Real Covid-19" just for Chinese.

It will wipe out as many Chinese as possible, the survivors will become zombies, and their brains and organs will be damaged, it will be passed down to generations.

Chinese helped USA, and must.

But at the same time, Chinese is a great threat.

Chinese should help USA to burn down China and kill themselves.

 

[kankan326]

I don't really think much US is involved. Clearly US has a stake in China economy. If China economy in mess, US like apple and Tesla wouldn't be better off. Trust me!

It will spoke economy crisis for US too.

Check this video. Protesters got money paid. In US dollars.

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What the fvck. Most time daily deaths number in Taiwan is zero? Kiding me? You can not deny the fact that covid killed more than 10k people in Taiwan since half year ago when it gave up zero covid policy. x61 would be more than 600k people if China mainland followed the same policy.

 

[Mista]

What the fvck. Most time daily deaths number in Taiwan is zero? Kiding me?

So after so long, where's your source to prove your claim of 500 daily deaths? Some random person you read on Weibo which you have cited in another thread? LOL.

You can not deny the fact that covid killed more than 10k people in Taiwan since half year ago when it gave up zero covid policy. x61 would be more than 600k people if China mainland followed the same policy.

Yes I do agree on this. China will probably see 1mil Covid deaths within a year if it suddenly relaxes its Covid controls tomorrow.

 

[JSCh]

I think it is undeniable that China's dynamic zero covid policy have save a lot of Chinese life and largely kept its economics chungging along uninterrupted.

It is miraculous that China - the world factory has manage to run largely uninterrupted and supply the whole world with lots of vaccine, masks and medical equipment and supply. In that sense, it has also help to save life outside of China.

But with the more transmissible Omicron variant, interruption in Chinese life become more frequent. And some people are complaining.

Whether it could be contained into mostly zero cases and death for most of the time like before Or kept at a certain acceptable level Or fail altogether and kept at natural level, is unknown and yet to be seen.

Fact is, we have a pandemic and people are continously dying day by day. So far, It doesn't look like it is going away any time soon.

The Chinese people expect the gov't to protect them. Passively doing nothing would be seen as a failure, dereliction of duty and gross negligence. I think It is unlikely that zero covid would be abandon altogether, but easing of restrictions is already happening.

At this current moment, for China to give up, I think it would require Chinese people to accept the death of at least hundred of thousand Covid death per year, every year, as the new normal.