The United States of Islam

[Baghial]

Yes it is I know you can't hear anything against Afghanistan but it is reality live with it

am happy to live in reality

you can live in you abyss....army gets rich in every jihad across border..

But Imf is there only because ppl don't pay taxes

imran khan asked every pakistan to burn there utility bills/ use hoondi to transfer money .in his staged infamous dharna 2014/ kanjar dance.........

practice what you preach/uturn master ..LT general imran khan..

 

[SkyWolf]

@SkyWolf

1. Where is Syria in your list ??

2. Central Asian states are more in alignment with Russia than with West-aligned states like Saudia.

3. Palestine is not a "Muslim issue". It is more a humanitarian issue. Non-Muslim revolutionaries like Carlos fought for the rights of Palestinians.

4. Creating a bloc based on religion is not the future thing to do.

Given your nationality i am not surprised you are frightened by this idea.

 

[jamahir]

Given your nationality i am not surprised you are frightened by this idea.

I am a Socialist, thus more an Internationalist than someone whose imagination is limited by national boundaries.

 

[Baghial]

So who do you think who attacked the school ??

6 terrorists????

, the nature and preparation of the attack was very similar to that of the Beslan school hostage crisis that occurred in the North Ossetia–Alania region of the Russian Federation 2oo4..


The Pakistani intelligence community conducted an investigation to determine the nationalities of the terrorists, whom the FIA determined were all foreign fighters. The pictures of six of the gunmen were released by the Pakistani Taliban:

• Abu Shamil (also went by Abdur Rehman)— a Chechen fighter and thought to be the ringleader of the group.
• Nouman Shah Helmand — an Afghan citizen from Helmand Province; the U.S. had placed a $500,000 bounty upon Nouman.
• Wazir Alam Herat — an Afghan citizen from Herat.
• Khatib al-Zubaidi — an Egyptian citizen.
• Mohammad Zahedi — a Moroccan citizen.
• Jibran al-Saeedi — a Saudi citizen.

which data base was used by FIA- to confirm identities?.. none were pakistani.......
why is the investigation not complete yet..........why are the relatives told to shut up?
why is there non co-operation between several govt key instutions?
why TTP.. gave 2 different statements?

why was the carnage in school greater than the ammunation which was used by terrorists?

many un answered question ,, no answers,,

a pakistani 9/11

comparing yourself with tipu sultan is a funny, because he always use brain he was fine strategist. unlike you

yes he fought for his jahgheer left by is papa........
most of his advisers were hindu,s also....

now why would imran praise tipu.................instead of Khalid ibn al-Walid or ......... al qaqa ib n amr..
whom Caliph Abu Bakr praised him as an equal to eleven thousand men ..

 

[Desert Fox]

Turkey, Malaysia, and Pakistan have recently cooperated in trying to combat Islamophobia and addressing Muslim issues. They are even collaborating on a new English-language channel on Islam and Muslims for global audience.

The three countries should consider a phased approach to creating a genuine Islamic bloc.
This is fantastical, yes -- but you have to envision something, spread the seed of an idea and it can take a life of its own. My example is below. How would others in this forum do it differently? Don't just criticize -- that's easy, provide solutions to those problems -- that's harder.

Phase 1 - Initiation
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Members: Turkey, Malaysia, Pakistan
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Trade Concessions
Tourism Preferences
Sister Cities
Yearly Heads of State Forum
Disaster/Emergency Support

Phase 2 - Indoctrination
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Members: Turkey, Malaysia, Pakistan
New Members: Oman, Indonesia, Nigeria
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University Exchange
Islamic Cohesion Indoctrination
Sunni/Shia Outreach & Unity Programs
Islamic Racial Equality Indoctrination
Film, Music, Literature, Television Festivals

Phase 3 - Economic Bloc
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Members: Turkey, Malaysia, Pakistan, Oman, Indonesia, Nigeria
New Members: Iran, Iraq, Bahrain, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait
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Islamic Banking
Investment Preferences
Economic Preferences
Transportation Agreements
Sports Leagues/Islamic Union Games

Phase 4 - Cooperation
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Members:
New Members: Central Asia + North Africa
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Minority Equality Initatives
Military Exercises
Counter Terrorism
Free Trade Agreement
Joint Research & Development

Phase 5 - Foreign Policy
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Members:
New Members:
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University System
Muslim Issues (Palestine, Kashmir, Kurds, Uighurs etc.)
Council for Foreign Policy
UN Bloc Voting
Humanitarian Missions Force
International Trade with other Blocs

Retarded idea.

Pakistan couldn't even keep Bangladesh due to stark cultural and ethnic differences between the two wings despite overarching "Islamic" ideology, forget a massive Islamic "bloc" of multiple culturally and racially diverse countries with often diverging political interests.

Why would Bangladesh join a similar bloc as Pakistan when it's entire creation is predicated on anti-Pakitanism?

And would Pakistan be willing to undermine its ally China and tolerate Turkey's pro Uyghur stance?

 

[Hex0maniac]

yes he fought for his jahgheer left by is papa........
most of his advisers were hindu,s also....

now why would imran praise tipu.................instead of Khalid ibn al-Walid or ......... al qaqa ib n amr..
whom Caliph Abu Bakr praised him as an equal to eleven thousand men ..

well tipu has also many pros too. I mean his name lives on like any great Muslim ruler but yeah Khalid bin Waleed R.A is better option.

 

[Ace of Spades]

Turkey, Malaysia, and Pakistan have recently cooperated in trying to combat Islamophobia and addressing Muslim issues. They are even collaborating on a new English-language channel on Islam and Muslims for global audience.

The three countries should consider a phased approach to creating a genuine Islamic bloc.
This is fantastical, yes -- but you have to envision something, spread the seed of an idea and it can take a life of its own. My example is below. How would others in this forum do it differently? Don't just criticize -- that's easy, provide solutions to those problems -- that's harder.

Phase 1 - Initiation
------------------------------------------
Members: Turkey, Malaysia, Pakistan
------------------------------------------
Trade Concessions
Tourism Preferences
Sister Cities
Yearly Heads of State Forum
Disaster/Emergency Support

Phase 2 - Indoctrination
------------------------------------------
Members: Turkey, Malaysia, Pakistan
New Members: Oman, Indonesia, Nigeria
------------------------------------------
University Exchange
Islamic Cohesion Indoctrination
Sunni/Shia Outreach & Unity Programs
Islamic Racial Equality Indoctrination
Film, Music, Literature, Television Festivals

Phase 3 - Economic Bloc
------------------------------------------
Members: Turkey, Malaysia, Pakistan, Oman, Indonesia, Nigeria
New Members: Iran, Iraq, Bahrain, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait
------------------------------------------
Islamic Banking
Investment Preferences
Economic Preferences
Transportation Agreements
Sports Leagues/Islamic Union Games

Phase 4 - Cooperation
------------------------------------------
Members:
New Members: Central Asia + North Africa
------------------------------------------
Minority Equality Initatives
Military Exercises
Counter Terrorism
Free Trade Agreement
Joint Research & Development

Phase 5 - Foreign Policy
------------------------------------------
Members:
New Members:
------------------------------------------
University System
Muslim Issues (Palestine, Kashmir, Kurds, Uighurs etc.)
Council for Foreign Policy
UN Bloc Voting
Humanitarian Missions Force
International Trade with other Blocs

Good idea, but wasn't oic established along the same lines? what have it achieved so far? The politics of muslim world is far more complicated to be resolved by making some blocs, a recent one, islamic military alliance. What came out of it? It won't work unless we are ourselves economically stable and very strong. Only and only then others will follow lead.

 

[Hex0maniac]

shut up you dont know me. you only have 300 msgs.

lol

 

[jamahir]

many un answered question ,, no answers,,

Is there any consensus at all in the Pakistani press about the attack ??

yes he fought for his jahgheer left by is papa........
most of his advisers were hindu,s also....

now why would imran praise tipu

well tipu has also many pros too.

Tipu Sultan was an Internationalist, a man ahead of his time. Please read this thread of mine on him from 2015.

 

[Enigma SIG]

As OIC has shown; bloc of muslim countries is not the answer. What should happen is for major countries to quit the UN and shows it inefficacy of maintaining world order. A parallel bloc of nations should emerge to challenge the UN; thereby dismantling it. This bloc should have a separate reserve currency/ basket of currencies for trading and economics.

Possible countries include (without the religious baggage):

China
Russia
Pakistan
Turkey
Malaysia
Indonesia
Iran
CAR's
African States

 

[jamahir]

What should happen is for major countries to quit the UN and shows it inefficacy of maintaining world order. A parallel bloc of nations should emerge to challenge the UN; thereby dismantling it. This bloc should have a separate reserve currency/ basket of currencies for trading and economics.

You are correct.

There is the SCO ( Shanghai Cooperation Organization ) which can replace the UNO. It exists presently.

 

[LeGenD]

As OIC has shown; bloc of muslim countries is not the answer. What should happen is for major countries to quit the UN and shows it inefficacy of maintaining world order. A parallel bloc of nations should emerge to challenge the UN; thereby dismantling it. This bloc should have a separate reserve currency/ basket of currencies for trading and economics.

Possible countries include (without the religious baggage):

China
Russia
Pakistan
Turkey
Malaysia
Indonesia
Iran
CAR's
African States

I doubt that China and Russia will give up their priviledged positions in the UN.

A potential alternative to UN must be a fair-and-balanced body for all but this is unrealistic expectation. Who will be the judge, jury and executioner for this body?

 

[Hex0maniac]

Tipu Sultan was an Internationalist, a man ahead of his time. Please read this thread of mine on him from 2015.

if their is a true Muslim leader anywhere in history he will always be miss took as secular, why you ask because that's what our Quran and our prophet teaches us.

 

[Enigma SIG]

I doubt that China and Russia will give up their perks in UN.

They wouldn't. But come to think of it. If a new bloc has the major powers backing it; UN will lose its footing. Its a defunct organisation anyway. The new blocs headquarter can be given to China or Russia doesn't matter. The world needs a 180 in power and needs it now.

 

[jamahir]

if their is a true Muslim leader anywhere in history he will always be miss took as secular

There is nothing wrong in being secular.