The Un-Intended Eye Opener Of 27th Feb:---

[MastanKhan]

And US nightmare getting worse day by day.Their always said about chinese products ""its all copy so can't compete with original""(today make an international arms sales post with figures) now what they have to say .China is moving ahead no surprise one clear example 5G technology from where china copied it ??no American orIndian able to answer me yet

Hi,

What AM Latif has done for the chinese---they should put up his statue at CATIC---.

 

[GumNaam]

Hi,

The humble servants of your's also has a hand in removing the jobs of indian IT's from the US---. I wrote to some very influential senators about a decade ago---and told them how many jobs and how much income they are stealing from american IT guys---and the modus operandi of getting hired in the US---.



Hi,

What AM Latif has done for the chinese---they should put up his statue at CATIC---.

Good ho giya sir ji.

But as far as AM Latif is concerned, rest assured, Chinese would've found ways to get what they wanted, but no one was able to do for us what they have done for us. There's no disputing that...

 

[ziaulislam]

Yes and No.

I have three points in mind.
1. Was GPS guided weapon was used or LGB?
2. GPS Signal can be jammed or lost, so a targeting pod is back up.
3. Can the GPS guided weapon be "controlled" to change trajectory (if required) by Targeting pod by over riding coordinates during its flight after release, which could make the pod necessary.

GPS bombs have back up systems like scene select and tele targetting, look up spike

 

[xyxmt]

Imagine on 26 Feb if enemy attacks our airbases?? PAF was too late on 26th Feb, Even enemy announced they will take revengue of pulwama attack and it was sure they will do it from Kashmir side.
I believe there are serious holes in our defense system. Enemy will never announce or tell that they will attack
During Israel arab conflict, Israel sent their soldiers on holidays, just to make impression , clouds of war is over. So did surprise attack.
Considering Rafale, Induction of S400 system, what is our planning for next 5 years. ? I fear we don't have answer.
Today enemy is roaring due to our defensive strategy.
While I agree , next day response was extraordinary , but still we were not able to cross LOC as India did with 12 mig2000. Why? due to defensive strategy.
Current events leaving few question , Are we ready to Counter Surprise attack?

That is one misinformation we Pakistani people got from the media that PAF was not ready on 26th, the fact that PAF response made them drop their prized Israeli bomb in a hectic manner with even arming it shows that PAF was not only ready but responded in timely manner but was not allowed to shoot them at that occasion. Then the order came from above and rest we know.

LOL... It was first time in history that an Airforce defeated a politician.
Look at recent photos of Mr Modi. He is getting thinner day by day.

you did not look properly, its the manhoosiat on his face being multiplied day by day.

 

[Signalian]

GPS bombs have back up systems like scene select and tele targetting, look up spike

More interested in Pod than the nav kit

 

[BATMAN]

@MastanKhan @Khafee

I reflect back to the ISPR briefing of 27th.
General AG stated, we engaged 6 Indian targets while staying in our own air-space, he repeated same again in his speech with elaboration: we lock 6 (ground) targets, while staying in our own airspace.

AVM SL repeatedly credited jF-17 for the 3 known A2A kills.

What was witnessed in skies, was either jF-17 or various un-identified falling objects. Nothing else was observed anywhere else.

On the situation, i expect Indian Su-30 were already in air. They moved Mig-21 to chase off closing in jF-17.

Even the F-16 role doesn't make much sense, looking at the battle zone.

Please tell me, On what grounds, people are chipping in with mirage theory? and what's with General AG statement of not crossing LoC?

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

A completely off topic post but, I'd love to know if you could recommend a textbook for electromagnetism. Have been thinking of going for post graduate studies in applied physics.

I have become too old to even remember the name of the text book we had!!! It was written by some MIT folks!! And, I am too far off from EM!!! Anyway, don't rely on a single text, try at the least two...

 

[GumNaam]

That is one misinformation we Pakistani people got from the media that PAF was not ready on 26th, the fact that PAF response made them drop their prized Israeli bomb in a hectic manner with even arming it shows that PAF was not only ready but responded in timely manner but was not allowed to shoot them at that occasion. Then the order came from above and rest we know.



you did not look properly, its the manhoosiat on his face being multiplied day by day.

On three night of the 26th, PAF prevented 2 border breaches and thwarted a breach it was done. iaf was thinking they'll be to get us busy on the first two bluffs while succeeding on the third dnd not get any retaliation in return. Well, they couldn't succeed and got their jaw broken on retaliation.

#BaapAakhirBaapHotaHay.

 

[xyxmt]

The reason many didn't mention or I can say for myself is that, China is neutral in this standoff.

But speaking of Chinese tech capability, only a fool will undermine an adversary like this. I don't count US/West to be that naive except for psych warfare through media to undermine Chinese advancements. Furthermore, there were areas that China lacked but seeing it's progress, it wouldn't be wrong to say that China is closing the gap fast.

Undoubtedly, beside the tech, it was about tactics and expertise of PAF as well. We have an input and China has the base to utilize the same. JFT is a living example.

its business, one producer will try his best to undermine the products from his competitor specially if products from competitor has not seen any action, on Feb 27th Pakistan demonstrated it...so its not just the product but the marketing skill as well.

 

[ziaulislam]

@MastanKhan @Khafee

I reflect back to the ISPR briefing of 27th.
General AG stated, we engaged 6 Indian targets while staying in our own air-space, he repeated same again in his speech with elaboration: we lock 6 (ground) targets, while staying in our own airspace.

AVM SL repeatedly credited jF-17 for the 3 known A2A kills.

What was witnessed in skies, was either jF-17 or various un-identified falling objects. Nothing else was observed anywhere else.

On the situation, i expect Indian Su-30 were already in air. They moved Mig-21 to chase off closing in jF-17.

Even the F-16 role doesn't make much sense, looking at the battle zone.

Please tell me, On what grounds, people are chipping in with mirage theory?

jf17 also has precision strike capability with REK so u might be right

 

[Microsoft]

I have become too old to even remember the name of the text book we had!!! It was written by some MIT folks!! And, I am too far off from EM!!! Anyway, don't rely on a single text, try at the least two...

By any chance was it by David Griffiths? He was not from MIT but that is the book that is very popular where I am. All the professors recommend his texts.

 

[BATMAN]

it was the F-16's prowling near LOC which intercepted IAF and made all the kills.

Which possible airbase, did they took off ?

As far Indian cries goes, i heard them complaining only about F-16 D.

 

[Signalian]

Which possible airbase, did they took off ?

As far Indian cries goes, i heard them complaining only about F-16 D.

9th Sqd. could be a FOB.its usually based in Sargodha

 

[MastanKhan]

@MastanKhan @Khafee

I reflect back to the ISPR briefing of 27th.
General AG stated, we engaged 6 Indian targets while staying in our own air-space, he repeated same again in his speech with elaboration: we lock 6 (ground) targets, while staying in our own airspace.

AVM SL repeatedly credited jF-17 for the 3 known A2A kills.

What was witnessed in skies, was either jF-17 or various un-identified falling objects. Nothing else was observed anywhere else.

On the situation, i expect Indian Su-30 were already in air. They moved Mig-21 to chase off closing in jF-17.

Even the F-16 role doesn't make much sense, looking at the battle zone.

Please tell me, On what grounds, people are chipping in with mirage theory? and what's with General AG statement of not crossing LoC?

Hi,

Welcome to war news---. Some information is leaked intentionally in different formats and terms---to keep the enemy confused to what actually happened---.

 

[Riz]

Hi,

The Paf may not have intended for it to have happened like it did---but the results of that day's---day light strike and skirmish over kashmir has many a powers shook up---concerned---and looking for answers---answers that may not be easy to find and consequences no easy to confront---.

The first major combat of two equally well equipped air forces of the world has some shocking results for the major powers to analyze and assess---.

The myth of the israeli / french / russian technology on one side---and on the other side---chinese technology with ruthless and brutally efficient Paf brains behind that technology in operation.

The Paf---after living all thru those years on sanctions---and as Air Marshall Latif quoted Gen Mushhy " we went with pockets full of money and no one would sell us the fighter aircraft---"---the Paf had a grudge against the claimed powers to be---they were mad as hell---mad as a hornets nest disturbed in the dark of the night---continuously being blamed for every wrong that was done in india by the indians themselves on their own---.

The indians came by choice---at a time and place of their chosing---openly threatening the pak military---and yret they had to trun tail.

In return---Pakistan's response of retaliation at a time and place of their own chosing was not taken seriously---and there were many who had reservations about it---.

But when pakistan struck back---the strike was made in the light of the day---for the world and the public to see---it was masterful---it was tectful---it was ruthless and it was brutal---.

Nobody in the world---no military power in the world expected that kind of retaliation by the pak military---.

And as they say---" success has many fathers---and defeat is an orphan---"---suddenly the indian air force felt like it had been orphaned by its very own---. Indian Prime minister after reviewing the losses---had the realization dawn on him that his aircraft were not capable of defending the motherland untill and unless he did not have the most modern Rafales---.


that was just one small part of the picture---. The bigger and the larger part of the picture was the Pakistan / China fighter / China EW package and china weapons broke the spell of the modern israeli / russian / french EW package---made it go to sleep and spun their own magic in chinese and pakistani and made the enemy fall from the skies---.

This was unexpected---was not a part of the picture---was not supposed to happen---was not allowed to happen---but it did---.

The unexpected successful exposure of the unknown newer weaponry into the air combat field by the Paf has had an eye popping effect in many a leading nations of the world---. The weapons system that was known to be below par and docile turned out to be a monster---.

i would not be surprised if mother China was equally surprised by the effectiveness of its weapons---.

The response by PAF not only shocked india, but it shocked Amricans, French, & Israelis... They delivered there best and modern equipment to india.. But pak failed them like they are like toys for us... Now French & isrealis expert are on urgent visit to india on the request of modi to give us those toys which can kill a PAF jet .. Only 1 jet they want for face saving .. Now IAF is being re equipped with soms new toys and now they are again looking for target ... But now PAF will give them few more punch that they will lost their remaining values.. Inshallah our response will be more ruthless then the last one