The Turkic Council, 2040 Vision: Turkic Council eyes forming 'united states of Turkic world'

[Philip the Arab]

If this actually happens it will be massive....If India can be united, then why can't the Turkic states and republics around the world?

Imo it wont happen at least not in the reasonable future.

 

[313ghazi]

MashaAllah. It's great to see our Turkic brothers have seen sense and realise that the future is in strength through unity.

Unfortunately we are two hundred years behind. In our country we are going towards a culture where 2 brothers cannot share the same space, let alone nations unite.

 

[T-SaGe]

If this actually happens it will be massive....If India can be united, then why can't the Turkic states and republics around the world?

The 2040 vision envisions a kind of confederative structure that takes more EU organizations as an example, rather than a strict federative structure. The ultimate aim is to bring together states (which are branches of common cultural and historical source) around common interests. If the Turkish states can achieve this, a third factor will emerge between China and Russia.

 

[MMM-E]

Turkish States are very important in terms of transportation infrastructure of the OBOR project ( One Belt, One Road - New silk way )


Turkish States a gateway to Europe for modern Silk Road from China

Turkish States can play key role in multi polar World

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Turkish States are very important in terms of transportation infrastructure of the OBOR project ( One Belt, One Road - New silk way )


Turkish States a gateway to Europe for modern Silk Road from China
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Turkish States can play key role in multi polar World

Another route is China - Russia - Western Europe. There is train from China to Saint Petersburg since 2019. The distance is much shorter and does not cross any Turkic country.

 

[MMM-E]

Another route is China - Russia - Western Europe. There is train from China to Saint Petersburg since 2019. The distance is much shorter and does not cross any Turkic country.

Turkish State Kazakhstan is the logistical heart of Eurasia for OBOR project

China - Kazakhtan - Russia - Western Europe .... ( from the Yellow Sea in China to the port at St. Petersburg on the Baltic Sea in Russia ( 8,445 km )

and only for Russia and Western Europe





how to transport Chinese products to Central Asia , İran , Caucasia , Turkey , Middle East , Balkans and whole Europe ?


Turkish States can aim to increase infrastructural, economic, and political connectivity between more than 65 countries across Eurasia ( covering half the population, 40% of the GDP, and 75% of the known energy resources in the world )

goods will be able to reach Europe heading from South Korea, China, and India within 15 days ... ( This is opposed 50 days to Ship )

multimodal trade route that goes from China to Europe via Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Georgia, and Turkey ( 7.000 km )

Turkey could be a link to both the Middle East and Europe from China ( Turkey has great geopolitical location advantage and with recently attracting mega investments )

The Middle Corridor

Logistics delays cost world trade billions of dollars
The jamming of the Ship in the Suez Canal had caused severe losses to world trade and once again demonstrated the importance of alternative routes

The Middle Corridor is one of the most important parts of efforts to revive the ancient Silk Road trade route that connects Central Asia , Middle East and Europe from China

 

[penlei00]

As a Chinese, I don’t support the One Belt One Road policy, which is a waste of Chinese money. I hope that this policy will be over as soon as possible. In the past, Turkic people blocked the Silk Road, leading to the severance of cultural exchanges and trade ties between China and the West, as well as making Central Asia completely be Trapped in involuntary poverty and backwardness, I personally believe that the One Belt One Road policy will inevitably fail, because it will definitely be blackmailed by Turkic countries.

 

[Turcici Imperium]

As a Chinese, I don’t support the One Belt One Road policy

Xi declared this project and invited other nations to invest, not because it sounds cool to ear, but because it's a necessity life-line for China. Time will eventually be come, there will eventually be military conflict in and around south china sea, and sea-traffic will be cut off during that time for months or even a year until conflict is over and cease-fire agreement signed.

Chinese economy cannot survive without trillions worth trade. All potential of land trade corridors should be ready and kicking by that time for Chinese economy to be ready for military confrontation over scs.

which is a waste of Chinese money.

I don't know what you are even talking about. All the nations on the line invest those trade lines themselves. Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan built seaports themselves in caspian sea, they also built ralways themselves. Turkey-Georgia-Azerbaijan have built BTK railway themselves too.

China is only responsible over investments on it's own territory. China also gives a lot of loans to African nations for them to build seaports, airports etc but that's not directly related to one-belt stuff.

 

[penlei00]

Xi declared this project and invited other nations to invest, not because it sounds cool to ear, but because it's a necessity life-line for China. Time will eventually be come, there will eventually be military conflict in and around south china sea, and sea-traffic will be cut off during that time for months or even a year until conflict is over and cease-fire agreement signed.

Chinese economy cannot survive without trillions worth trade. All potential of land trade corridors should be ready and kicking by that time for Chinese economy to be ready for military confrontation over scs.


I don't know what you are even talking about. All the nations on the line invest those trade lines themselves. Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan built seaports themselves in caspian sea, they also built ralways themselves. Turkey-Georgia-Azerbaijan have built BTK railway themselves too.

China is only responsible over investments on it's own territory. China also gives a lot of loans to African nations for them to build seaports, airports etc but that's not directly related to one-belt stuff.

Chinese scholars who support this policy have similar views. However, I think this is a wrong view. The ocean is the open sea for all people, but the land involves the politics of different sovereign countries. If the United States wants to destroy the Belt and Road, it only needs to destroy one. Node, the entire route is cut off. The relationship between China and Turkey will not be stable, because there are always people in Turkey trying to challenge the Erdogan government. The Uyghur separatism in China is a tool that can be used to challenge Erdogan. This policy is a big trap. Sooner or later, the wrong decision of the Chinese government will have nightmarish consequences.

 

[aziqbal]

Ameen

May Allah make it a success, Pakistan with Turkey

 

[Turcici Imperium]

If the United States wants to destroy the Belt and Road, it only needs to destroy one. Node, the entire route is cut off.

There are two seperate routes in central asia: one goes through on kazakstan,other one passes kyrgyz republic-uzbekistan-turkmenistan. Theres also north and south routes, which passes russia in northern route, and iran in southern route (iran route isnt ready yet but would eventually be ready in few years).

That being said, its not as much easy to block these routes at once, as blocking sea trade during the conflict. Countries would rather compete each other to pull most trade volume.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

Once the Turkic States Unite, there will be no stopping, next will be our region. Just stay tuned guys. Just one little example below.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Beautiful idea , very logically 100% Support this initiative

 

[Mohamed Bin Tughlaq]

The 2040 vision envisions a kind of confederative structure that takes more EU organizations as an example, rather than a strict federative structure. The ultimate aim is to bring together states (which are branches of common cultural and historical source) around common interests. If the Turkish states can achieve this, a third factor will emerge between China and Russia.

This more like EU type of formation but every country has self-governance

 

[T-SaGe]

"You, Turkish Oguz lords and peoples, hear this ! If the sky above did not collapse, and if the earth below did not go away, О Turkish people, what could be able to destroy your state and traditions?"
(...)
"You, people of the sacred Otukan mountains, it was you who went away. (Of you) those who meant to go to the east went away, and those who meant to go to the west went away» In the places you went, your (only) profit was the following: your blood ran like a river, and your bones were heaped up like a mountain."

(Kul Tigin Inscriptions / E22-E23)