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The speech that got Morsi killed

If European culture is islamophobic,then why are tens of millions of muslims still in Europe and not deported?
Not Islamophobic? Greece banned Halal (and Kosher) meat and allowed no mosque until recently. In France they won't let Muslim women wear bathing suit which covers their body and sanctions Mosques for preaching moral values. European countries were massacring Jews in pogroms until last century. Real Muslims have to be really ignorant to move to such countries. The people who escape to Europe are mostly opportunists from poor unstable third world countries. I support their deportation. Some are genuine refugees escaping tyranny and persecution, it's an improvement from where they fled, that doesn't mean the general culture of Europe isn't Islamophobic.
 
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Not Islamophobic? Greece banned Halal (and Kosher) meat and allowed no mosque until recently. In France they won't let Muslim women wear bathing suit which covers their body and sanctions Mosques for preaching moral values. European countries were massacring Jews in pogroms until last century. Real Muslims have to be really ignorant to move to such countries. The people who escape to Europe are mostly opportunists from poor unstable third world countries. I support their deportation. Some are genuine refugees escaping tyranny and persecution, it's an improvement from where they fled, that doesn't mean the general culture of Europe isn't Islamophobic.
And if I go to Saudi Arabia will I be allowed to DEMAND a church to built there,to walk with a beer in my hand or tell the authorities to open pork meat fast-foods or else they are "Christianophobic"?
 
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And if I go to Saudi Arabia will I be allowed to DEMAND a church to built there,to walk with a beer in my hand or tell the authorities to open pork meat fast-foods or else they are "Christianophobic"?
Do you have millions of Saudi refugees? See how you switched to what is convenient. The people you have as refugees actually have churches in their countries! Saudi Arabia is an exception like a Vatican. Still in the future they will have churches as evidenced by their future plan to build new cities where old Saudi rules don't apply. Churches are allowed by Islamic rules. 22-40 They are those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, "Our Lord is Allah [monotheist God]." And were it not that Allah checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of Allah is much mentioned. And Allah will surely support those who support Him.
 
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Do you have millions of Saudi refugees? See how you switched to what is convenient.
No,I see how convieniently you accuse Europe of being Islamophobic as if they haven't done enough for muslims. Instead,you continue the usual conservative narrative of "No full bath swimsuits,no burqas,no halal,no this,no that". The complaints.

In the end of the day,they who choose to come to Europe have the obligation not to demand the change of the native culture,traditions and laws just because of them. I think it's only fair. Just like you can't go around in certain islamic countries doing whatever you want,like I mentioned above,drinking alcohol in public,having pork food and demanding things.

Unfortunately,there are some muslims on the radical side who want to transform the places they go to into their former countries. Such people can be found in the UK,France and Belgium for example.
 
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No,I see how convieniently you accuse Europe of being Islamophobic as if they haven't done enough for muslims. Instead,you continue the usual conservative narrative of "No full bath swimsuits,no burqas,no halal,no this,no that". The complaints.

In the end of the day,they who choose to come to Europe have the obligation not to demand the change of the native culture,traditions and laws just because of them. I think it's only fair. Just like you can't go around in certain islamic countries doing whatever you want,like I mentioned above,drinking alcohol in public,having pork food and demanding things.

Unfortunately,there are some muslims on the radical side who want to transform the places they go to into their former countries. Such people can be found in the UK,France and Belgium for example.
Again you missed the point. The people you have as refugees in your countries have churches, alcohol and pork for Christians in their countries. I am not Pakistani but I am aware Pakistan allows alcohol for Non Muslims. You can get alcohol and pork in UAE.
 
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Again you missed the point. The people you have as refugeed in your countries have churches, alcohol and pork for Christians in their countries. I am not Pakistani but I am aware Pakistan allows alcohol for Non Muslims. You can get alcohol and pork in UAE.
Yes,but there's a big percentage of those coming here as refugees or immigrants,that are conservative,radical or at least
"pseudo-conservatives",let's say.

These people demand all kinds of things.
 
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Yes,but there's a big percentage of those coming here as refugees or immigrants,that are conservative,radical or at least
"pseudo-conservatives",let's say.

These people demand all kinds of things.
Most of the refugees in Greece are Syrian. They have loads of Christians and Churches there. Remember, Christianity is Semitic religion. You are in a middle eastern religion, not the other way around. Most of the immigrants in France are Algerian, Moroccon, Tunisian, as far as I know they allow churches, pork and alcohol for Europeans.
 
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Most of the refugees in Greece are Syrian. They have loads of Christians and Churches there. Remember, Christianity is Semitic religion. You are in a middle eastern religion, not the other way around. Most of the immigrants in France are Algerian, Moroccon, Tunisian, as far as I know they allow churches, pork and alcohol for Europeans.
There's Syrians,Afghans,Pakistanis,Kurds and in a lesser degree Libyans,Tunisians,Algerians,Iraqis.

Majority Syrians in Greece are Sunni and so are Kurds,but I think there are some Yazidis too. Christians tend to go to other countries or stay in their homeland. The vast majority,almost total,are Sunni muslims.
 
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There's Syrians,Afghans,Pakistanis,Kurds and in a lesser degree Libyans,Tunisians,Algerians,Iraqis.

Majority Syrians in Greece are Sunni and so are Kurds,but I think there are some Yazidis too. Christians tend to go to other countries or stay in their homeland. The vast majority,almost total,are Sunni muslims.
All of them allow churches in their home countries. Yes even Afghanistan with almost 100% Muslim Afghans has an old operational Catholic church.
 
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His country's economic condition is worse than Afghanistan yet he is lecturing what other countries should or should not do. Another one whose country is on the edge of civil war.
Says the pakistani lol
The hypocrosy

lmao you're putting words in my mouth. See? this is what I mean by blatant lying. ALL my statements were in RESPONSE to you 2 claiming Sisi had overwhelming support. I said there's no proof of it. How does this equate to saying Morsi had majority support? I wasn't the one sharing pics & vids & passing them off as proof. YOU 2 were.


Yes, you did. But it's obvious you're too stubborn to admit it so I'll leave it this time. But don't try this sh*t with me again.

And no, you can't say the same about me. I wasn't the one who shifted the original debate about labelling others to talking about Hamas & then shifting to talking about how much support they had. YOU 2 did that. And now jamahir has come in with his own nonsense about Assad. And as seen above you've also been telling lies.

I apologized when you said that you've indeed spoken against india & Israel. I didn't confirm it but took your word for it. You know why I apologized? B/c unlike you, I don't let my pride control me & I can admit when I'm wrong.
hamas being active in sinai and caught red handed shooting protesters and are a branch of the mb are relevant.

Why don't YOU stop acting like MORSI wasn't popular. I was simply talking about MAJORITY support which is debatable. YOU & hydration were the ones acting like Sisi is the Messiah

Who the actual f*ck brought Nasser into this? Go take your meds kid. You're going off the rails.
Morsi was so popular people protested literally every friday for six months
 
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Where the large support? Your protestors were being bribed and organized protests to send messages, your protestors half of them werent even egyptians. Immense support means 1/10 of the piblic who were either bribed or are MB themselves. Under morsi isreal woukd take the west bank and gaza and sinai would be offered to palestnians effectiveley killing the 70 year old case. Under morsi bribed protesters would storm the militarys HQ with al qaeda flags to give israel the green flag to take sinai that same day israeli troops with heavy mechanized and armoured divisions were on the border and returned back when the protests failed.

With all due respect, this is one side of the story. The Arab world is weak and very dependent on the West for economic survival, so they must kowtow to Western, i.e. Israeli, demands. The Palestinians lose no matter who leads Arab countries.

Here is a more balanced view of the constraints upon Morsi to appease Israel and the West. Note the emphasis on 'moderate'. Why should Arabs and Palestinians have to moderate their policy towards Israel? Does anyone ask Ukraine to be 'moderate' towards Russia?


Morsi’s natural affinity with Hamas is countered by the Brotherhood’s need to prove to its domestic critics and the international community that it is capable of ruling Egypt and of adopting a moderate foreign policy—especially toward Israel. Maintaining a balance will be difficult, as the interests of Morsi and Hamas diverge sharply on three key issues: the freedom of movement and trade between Egypt and the Gaza Strip; security in the Sinai Desert; and the Israeli-Palestinian peace process.
 
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His country's economic condition is worse than Afghanistan yet he is lecturing what other countries should or should not do. Another one whose country is on the edge of civil war.
There's not a single serious post of yours on this forum. Every post you make is an attempt to flame or mock someone.
 
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Would he live in USA? You keep coming up with these illogical questions. Like I said anti-assad Syrians also live in liberal countries. Your example doesn't work b/c your basic assumption is flawed.

Haven't you realized that it is from the mosques of your "liberal" Britain that the British government recruited the Tableeghi Jamaatis to fight in Libya and Syria against Gaddafi's forces and Assad's forces on behalf of NATO ? It is always the ritualist Muslims who become slaves of NATO.

Look this is the difference between you and me. I follow what is written in Quran and Sunnah instead of following random people. If Allah has said in Quran that homosexuality is a major sin then I will believe it even if a billion bearded and cap wearing people indulge in it.

Meanwhile the person you have referenced is also not a follower of Quran but seems like a follower of Gaddafi:

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Source? Why did you hide the source? Because it's from a British tabloid?

Foinikas is right. British tabloids receiving smear campaign instructions from MI6. Read this article from 2013 on the Russian news agency Pravda written by a Dutch journalist Linda Housman who I used to know on the internet in 2011 and 2012 :
Introduction

Sex sells, it's as simple as that. Modern society has become obsessed with sex. Unfortunately not because one considers it to be a source of great joy and a way to experience love and connectedness. On the contrary, people's obsession with sex merely sprouts from all the guilt and misguided 'values' surrounding the topic. The bigger the taboo, the bigger the obsession with it. For that reason, the vast majority of mankind can't do without their daily batch of stories linked to 'forbidden' sex in personal conversations, but even more in movies, soap series, tabloid stories et cetera.

Media moguls know this. The corporate financiers behind the media know this. But by far the most dangerous, the forces behind global war and destruction are fully aware that this is THE way to bend the public opinion - the public emotion - towards their evil agenda.

After the war on Iraq, NATO's war on Libya once again made it crystal clear that the wars of the 21st century have become nothing but straightforward propaganda wars. Whoever was not convinced yet by the already much used trump card of "another evil dictator being on the brink of eradicating a large part of his people", had to be won over by the topic that clearly appeals to the emotions of the majority: sex.

Global emotions ran high when mainstream media headlines in April 2011 started to claim that, according to UN diplomats, the forces of the Libyan Jamahiriya were being issued the impotency drug Viagra in order to engage in sexual violence and rape against those who supported the NATO-led rebels. From that moment in time, so-called Gaddafi supporters were inevitably also branded supporters of sexual crimes. No legitimacy for such people in the civilized world. Ergo, another free pass for NATO to proceed with its imperialist war on the once sovereign and prosperous country.

By now the outcome of this illegal war has become obvious for everyone. NATO's 'free democratic Libya' has turned out to be a failed state, ruled by militias, mercenaries and traitors of the functioning Jamahiriya. But the remainders of Muammar Gaddafi's ideology as described in the Green Book are still there - moreover, the idea of a people's government only has been spreading ever since the outward destruction of the Libyan Jamahiriya in 2011.

The powers that create war - the desperate powers of the Western bankrupt countries - are well aware of the fact that the blood of the martyr Muammar Gaddafi has been the seed of a growing global call for a government based on the principles of the Jamahiriya. As a result of that, they saw no other choice than to disparage his legacy as much as possible, only to rid his supporters of their credibility and to portray them as being as "inhuman and monstrous" as their symbolic leader. And again, how to do that better than via a topic that most people are vulnerable to: sex.

"Viagra totalitarianism"

The propaganda snake that had to tarnish the reputation of Africa's hero once and for all, came in the form of a woman. A middle-aged woman named Annick Cojean, residing in one of the main orchestrators of the war against Libya, France, who works as a journalist of French mainstream media outlet Le Monde. Her book "Gaddafi's harem, The Story of a Young Woman and the Abuses of Power in Libya" is not only about the delicate topic of sex. The forces behind this ultimate piece of propaganda pulled out all the stops by making up a story of unbridled sexual violence and rape against underage girls by the most influential man of the entire country, who -'oh, irony'- went by the title of Guide of the Revolution. Or, quoting a mainstream review, "after reading her book, one gets the impression that Gaddafi's Libya was a grotesque and horrendous case of Viagra totalitarianism" and that Gaddafi "systematically used sex as a form of terrorism against his own people".

Cojean's book doesn't leave much to the imagination. It is built around the "confessions" of a 22-year-old woman, who at age fifteen became "one of Gaddafi's whores". The girl, Soraya (pseudonym), is said to be from Sirte, the hometown of Muammar Gaddafi. Had she been from either the city of Benghazi or the city of Misrata, which both have been cradles of terrorism and conspiracy against the Jamahiriya for decades, the effect of the description of "Gaddafi's crimes" probably would have been a little less efficient, the author must have considered.

According to the book, fifteen-year-old Soraya, in short, was "abducted from her mother's salon and driven out of the city and into the desert, to Gaddafi's tent". There she was "measured, weighed, washed and shaved", "a blood sample was taken by a Ukrainian nurse" and she was "made up and clothed in a dress with a deep décolleté over a tanga".

Soraya then was "led back to Gaddafi, who was sitting naked on his bed". When the girl "reacted with shock and refused to get into the bed", "Gaddafi, although angry, let her go". "But he shouted at Mabruka [earlier in the book described as 'the most notorious of Gaddafi's female thugs']: "This whore isn't doing what I want, make her understand and bring her back"."

Mabruka then "went to explain to Soraya that resisting was useless, and that Gaddafi would 'open' her". "The next time she was brought to Gaddafi, he raped her brutally. Over the next few days he whipped the girl, raped her again and again, even urinated on her. After a week, Soraya was taken to Tripoli to Gaddafi's headquarters at Bab al-Azizia. There she was given a dark, damp room in the cellar. Soraya was to spend seven years here as one of many of the dictator's slaves - at the whim of this mostly cocaine-fueled sex addict and his vicious band of female guards."

"Smart" move

In an attempt to come across reliable, the author dressed up in the finest sheep's clothing. "Soraya poured out all that happened to her, and spoke so freely to me that at one point I wondered if what she was saying was true", Cojean stated in her book. "I believed her, she seemed to be telling the truth, all she had experienced just welled out of her - but I still had to follow up and make sure." Meanwhile, no conclusive evidence whatsoever has been provided as to whether "Soraya" is telling the truth or not. Also no word about the psychopaths of this world who are able to manipulate to perfection - most likely because the author is one of them herself, or at least her clients are and she merely is their useful idiot.

The snake-gone-wolf-in-sheep's-clothing did her homework. A considerable part of the book elaborates on a topic most readers probably are not even familiar with: the fact that the empowerment of women was central to the Libyan Al-Fateh Revolution.

The author doesn't fail to mention that Muammar Gaddafi supported women and believed in their abilities. For that reason, he highlighted his female bodyguards as a symbol of his belief in women's emancipation and their role in the defence of their country. Under Jamahiriya government women also made great strides in employment, with improved access to education and acceptance of female paid employment. During the last decade of King Idris' rule, females enrolled in primary education were only between 11-19%. However, in 1969, education was made a right. And by 1990, the figure stood at 48%. And last but not least, under Jamahiriya government child marriages were banned and the minimum legal age to marry placed at 18. Since 1973, Libyan women have had equal rights in obtaining a divorce, and no person can force a Libyan woman to marry any man.

The Leader of the Al-Fateh Revolution himself explained his great efforts for women by saying: "I promised my mother to improve the situation of women in Libya". His mother, a Bedouin tribeswoman born when Libya was an Italian colony, was unable to read or write.

This and more, including quotes from Gaddafi's Green Book about the liberation of women and their equal rights, has been written down by Cojean - only for the purpose that is characteristic of evil forces: to turn good into bad, and bad into good. So the Le Monde journalist leaves her less-informed and less-aware readers with the poisonous question of the snakebite that this book is: "How on earth can something that looks so good on the surface have such a rotten core?"

And the devil of globalism and imperialism laughs...

Distraction

The real tragedy of this propaganda book that aims to turn Africa's hero into Africa's brutal sex-addicted mass rapist, is not only the fact that it broadly disparages Muammar Gaddafi's great achievements and ideology, as well as his humbleness as a Muslim and his simple personal life. It also - and be sure this is not a coincidence - massively draws away the attention from the extensive paedophile and sex abuse cases in Western governments, royal houses and churches, which currently nonetheless more and more come to light. So far no mainstream media outlet has been the voice of the numerous victims of those crimes, let alone allowing a book to be published on the sexual misconduct towards them by British Jimmy Savile, Dutch Joris Demmink and many many other high-ranking figures. Instead the proofless story of an anonymous, faceless "Libyan girl" gets the limelight - because this story exactly serves the imperialist agenda

In the end, Cojean's book only exposes and emphasizes the purpose of the evil forces. Because in the end it always is the good fruit that the mainstream media snakes are attracted to, while the rotten ones are left alone.

And Muammar Gaddafi has been such a good fruit.

Linda Housman

Well I can not share my real photo for privacy reasons but for a reference I am close in looks to this guy below:

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As reference you should have gone to the next level :
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My my, what a beautiful man and what a trust-worthy-looking man.

MB are definitely not seen as "fanatics" in the wider muslim world. You see them that way b/c of your own ideological bias.

May I ask your age bracket ? 10-20 ? 20-30 ? 30-40 ? Above ?

In Tunisia, El Nahdha wasn't involved in any criminal cases even if they
were ousted from Parliament in 25 August 2021 and don't have immunity anymore.

Just stop linking Muslims to criminality, greed, corruption,.....

Your Islamophobia, you and @Foinikas is 🤮


Can't find 🤮 as smiley reaction, so 🤣 will do

Firstly, what happened to you man suddenly ?

Secondly, I never found Foinikas to be Islamophobic ? And why I be Islamophobic when throughout my membership of PDF I have spoken about the progressiveness of true Islam in return of which the Hindutvadi members have called me an Islamist ?


We Keep the Greek Andreas Tzortzis

and you can have @jamahir and 100 PDF menbers with the same state of mind.

Who are those other 100 ?

I think I told you to not waste my time by tagging me in your retarded posts
And get used to this more and more people are anti-communist and anti-murtad which is a rude awakening for you

Crackpot.
 
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Sisi a dictator, a butcher, whatever you guys call him, he is ensuring safety of Egypt.

When will i see a Nasser in Egypt again? Is that even possible? People accuse Nasser of being a bureaucrat, as if he had thousands of supercomputers surrounding him and he just ignored them.
 
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Greece is quite islamophobic country with strong nazi traditions they wiped away all traces of non ortodox existance,, this dude Foinikas emit those kind of vibes he should humble himself when he opens mouth to meddle into muslim affairs.
 
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