"The real terrorist was me" : US Soldier (must watch it)

[Safriz]

Actually i feel sorry for this soldier...They are not told the real picture and the true face of war is far more ugly than any of us can imagine........They are young men and women from poorer backgrounds who join army for good career..but they are not told the whole story..Most of them expect war same as a video game..You shoot a person,he falls and dies,you move on..
(Unless you are sat in texas firing missiles on wedding parties in FATA,then war becomes a video game and you become careless.No ethics in drone war)

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Most of the US soliders , go in with brain washed mentality - firstly they are all 15-16 year old kids , they have no clue

They are brain washed with flag , patriotism and other jargon , best for Corporation`s interest.

When they land in actual war zone and they see how their war machine is bombing civilian buildings and throwing Geneva convention out of the window

That is when reality strucks in , and by then they have no help , they are at that point fighting for their own lives - and the angry crowd on ground is hostile to the ground force.

When these broken souls return home they are haunted with nightmares - to which American army states oh its just `STRESS` the emphasis being that they have nothing to do with it its completely natural -

Its very rare that the public outburst goes public !! because that would mean court marshal

Americans live their lives in a bubble they have no clue what happens around the word their only form of knowledge is talk shows and radio which ppl listen to and that is influenced by CIA and policy makers who influence people`s minds by running certain planned stories to influence public oppinion


The current war in Afghanistan has reduced war to `SUPERIOR BEINGS`Vs ` EXPENDABLES` there is no value to lives of Non Americans - its evident by the bombardment on civilian buildings and countless killings -

But US strategy has always been - send a generation in for certain doom , and then put them under the carpet and claim victory

Same happened in Vietnam - what happened to those Vietnam VETS ? exactly

 

[Thomas]

Most of the US soliders , go in with brain washed mentality - firstly they are all 15-16 year old kids , they have no clue

They are brain washed with flag , patriotism and other jargon , best for Corporation`s interest.

When they land in actual war zone and they see how their war machine is bombing civilian buildings and throwing Geneva convention out of the window

That is when reality strucks in , and by then they have no help , they are at that point fighting for their own lives - and the angry crowd on ground is hostile to the ground force.

When these broken souls return home they are haunted with nightmares - to which American army states oh its just `STRESS` the emphasis being that they have nothing to do with it its completely natural -

Its very rare that the public outburst goes public !! because that would mean court marshal

Americans live their lives in a bubble they have no clue what happens around the word their only form of knowledge is talk shows and radio which ppl listen to and that is influenced by CIA and policy makers who influence people`s minds by running certain planned stories to influence public oppinion


The current war in Afghanistan has reduced war to `SUPERIOR BEINGS`Vs ` EXPENDABLES` there is no value to lives of Non Americans - its evident by the bombardment on civilian buildings and countless killings -

But US strategy has always been - send a generation in for certain doom , and then put them under the carpet and claim victory

Same happened in Vietnam - what happened to those Vietnam VETS ? exactly

If you want to act like an expert on the American soldier then might try getting your facts straight. And since you seem so knowledgable on the subject I will leave it to you to realize what I am talking about.

 

[King Solomon]

If you want to act like an expert on the American soldier then might try getting your facts straight. And since you seem so knowledgable on the subject I will leave it to you to realize what I am talking about.

Gooogle suicide and dropout rates in NATO/ISAF. The facts speak for themselves.

 

[Thomas]

Gooogle suicide and dropout rates in NATO/ISAF. The facts speak for themselves.

PTSD is a fact of every major war. Especially one that has gone on for as long as this one. And no country is immune to it. Though some countries don't like to admit their soldiers get it.

However that is not what I was talking about.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

The Facts are -

a) Soldiers are there to get things done for Corporations bit multi billion dollar corporations
b) Numerous , soliders including first female who was captured reported that she was forced to state things (which were not true from pressure by Pentegon)
c) The actual pretext for war in Iraq was 100% fabricated - which resulted in thousands of people losing their lives and not to mention 13 trillion dollar debt
d) Unnecessary escalation of war to capture 1 sheep hearder really 1 Good suprise missile hit would have done the job
f) Thousands amputees running around with broken lives and countless others beyond help broken marriges and lives bad world economy
g) Politics prevented supply of armour to soliders - and even now soliders can't be withdrawn unless its POLITICALLY good move
h) Soliders who tried to speak out against crimes - were themselves targeted not only by gov but by military which eventually led to
Wiki leaks - by a frustrated solider (Allegedly)
i) Prior to the wars US had a pretty ok record in wars and their actions but in these wars all those believes shattered and
people were forced to reevaluate if the war against communism was actually even worth it - and was communism the good guys after all - because if Americans were they good guys they sure are bombing every one who they see

Even then it was shoved under the carpet what was the point of it all truth is no one knows

I mean when a War Vet like John Kerry would not get ellected his own people call him a liar that he faked his wounds - I mean you really wonder what happens in US in politics and how low can things get

 

[King Solomon]

PTSD is a fact of every major war. Especially one that has gone on for as long as this one. And no country is immune to it. Though some countries don't like to admit their soldiers get it.

However that is not what I was talking about.

PTSD becomes a major problem for wars which are pointless and when taking heavy casualties with no objective - like Vietnam and Afghanistan. Soldiers are not machines - you need something or some objective to motivate them.

Defending one's territory/country is the best motivation. Not pointless wars thousands of miles away from the mainland in fear of some ragtag farmer hijaking planes to crash in WTC.

 

[King Solomon]

The Facts are -

a) Soldiers are there to get things done for Corporations bit multi billion dollar corporations
b) Numerous , soliders including first female who was captured reported that she was forced to state things (which were not true from pressure by Pentegon)
c) The actual pretext for war in Iraq was 100% fabricated - which resulted in thousands of people losing their lives and not to mention 13 trillion dollar debt
d) Unnecessary escalation of war to capture 1 sheep hearder really 1 Good suprise missile hit would have done the job
f) Thousands amputees running around with broken lives and countless others beyond help broken marriges and lives bad world economy
g) Politics prevented supply of armour to soliders - and even now soliders can't be withdrawn unless its POLITICALLY good move
h) Soliders who tried to speak out against crimes - were themselves targeted not only by gov but by military which eventually led to
Wiki leaks - by a frustrated solider (Allegedly)

Even then it was shoved under the carpet what was the point of it all truth is no one knows

Plus, casualty and injury figures are vastly downplayed in the mainstream media.

 

[Thomas]

PTSD becomes a major problem for wars which are pointless and when taking heavy casualties with no objective - like Vietnam and Afghanistan. Soldiers are not machines - you need something or some objective to motivate them.

Defending one's territory/country is the best motivation. Not pointless wars thousands of miles away from the mainland in fear of some ragtag farmer hijaking planes to crash in WTC.

Totally not true, the Human mind has trouble proccessing the horrors of war. it's not natural to see someone getting thier head or limbs blown off, or your close friends bleed out. American civil war, WWII, Vietnam, all had high rates of suicide. And with the advent of roadside bombs soldiers feel more helpless since they can strike at anytime.

 

[Thomas]

Plus, casualty and injury figures are vastly downplayed in the mainstream media.

prove it from a reliable source not some anti war or jihadist source.

 

[gambit]

If you want to act like an expert on the American soldier then might try getting your facts straight. And since you seem so knowledgable on the subject I will leave it to you to realize what I am talking about.

I stopped taking that guy seriously a long time ago. He does not have anything original to say.

 

[silko]

War does cause collateral deaths and is one of the horrible aspects of war. And there is no country in this world that goes to the lengths to reduce collateral damage more then the U.S.

well, if you count over 100.000 killed as reducing collateral damage then ok!

i cant see any difference between the gulf war and the iraqi war, you killed almost the same amount in this two wars! where is the reduce of collateral damage?

 

[ARSENAL6]

I stopped taking that guy seriously a long time ago. He does not have anything original to say.

A reminder: members may want to ignore Gambit, who continoulsy comes here making lies upon lies to justify criminal acts. The poor chap has gotten propaganda in him so much that it has now caused a lot of mental trauma to him. Saying stuff about freedom but support such atrocities and mass murdrer in ME. Guess you can figure the symptoms out already.


However I totally agree with Thomas, AMerica has done alot for the Middleast helping them out and that:

Oh sorry wrong film

PS couldn't find any nice film about Us soilders helping Muslims civillians oh well
the good news is that at least you know why people in the world hate the US.

 

[King Solomon]

prove it from a reliable source not some anti war or jihadist source.

Well, I cannot quote any Zionist brainwashing source (which you'd like to hear). But this was written back in 2004 and it quotes a casualty of 30,000 (though it is based on Iraq, not afghanistan).

Uncounted Troop Casualties High as 30,000 ca. 2004 :: Real Oath Keepers

 

[U-571]

Totally not true, the Human mind has trouble proccessing the horrors of war. it's not natural to see someone getting thier head or limbs blown off, or your close friends bleed out. American civil war, WWII, Vietnam, all had high rates of suicide. And with the advent of roadside bombs soldiers feel more helpless since they can strike at anytime.

but the war starter was always america