The Ramadan War: The Battle for Dignity

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You will find out that most Israeli historians and politicians blame the Israeli government for the failure of Sadat's peace initiatives.

Shlomo Ben-Ami says in the Scars of War, p. 135: "In the winter of 1971, Israel was clearly responsible, and Golda Meir must take the principal part of the blame, for the subversion of a unique opportunity for peace. The rejection of his overture signalled for Sadat the beginning of the countdown to war."

Isn't it ironical that you are the only one who are blaming Sadat?

Shlomo Ben Ami does not represent most of Israeli historians and politicians. I brought fatcs what Saddat was asking before the war.

The source of your map is the Israeli MFA website. That's fun!

Its not and it is agreed by all sane historians in the world.

Here are UNEF II maps..

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/1820/unef2polacy.jpg

IDF retreated behind that black dashed line (Line K) and behind (Line M) in the south, before any negotiations between Egypt and Israel.

No, this retreat happened as result of the negotiation. UN force and demilitarized Egyptian zone prevented all chances of another surpsise attack by Egypt.

Israel constructed settlements in Golan after 1967, it was virtually annexed even before 1980.

Same goes with Sinai, nevetheless Sadat lead direct talks without preconditions and even visited Jerusalem. While Syria asks preconditions like its world superpower and not the poorest country in region

 

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Shlomo Ben Ami does not represent most of Israeli historians and politicians.

I never heard about an Israeli historian who blamed Sadat for the outbreak of the war.

Its not

Yes it is, and also photoshopped by Wikipedia editor Raul666!!
It has nothing to do with our debate, you just brought it to derail the thread.

No, this retreat happened as result of the negotiation.

I am not aware of any direct negotiations in 1975.

Same goes with Sinai,

No, US guaranteed Egypt's sovereign over Sinai before any direct talks, and pressured Israel to virtually cease settlements expansion, and to sign the Sinai interim agreement of 1975. Israel obviously realised that they had no chance in Sinai.
The opposite happened in Golan in 1975, where Israel rejected another interim agreement with Syria.

nevetheless Sadat lead direct talks without preconditions and even visited Jerusalem.

Sadat received more than 10,000 km square in Sinai before any negotiations.

While Syria asks preconditions like its world superpower and not the poorest country in region

Israel officially annexed Golan like it's Nazi country.

 

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In this rare photograph, Egyptian combat engineers use high-pressure fire hoses, purchased from Britain and Germany, to blast away the sand embankments of the Bar-Lev line. No other method, including explosives, could have achieved the same result quickly enough. This was the idea of a young engineer officer and was crucial to the success of Operation Badr. (EGIO)

 

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The Arabs - Egypt in particular - achieved a great political and Strategic victory out of the war.
Militarily, the result was stalemate on both fronts, although the Egyptian army achieved its objective, liberated the east bank of the Suez Canal, and did ultimately succeed in forcing the Israelis back to negotiation table.

Israel destroyed your army and your economy see their country today compared to you