The Quad Is Poised to Become Openly Anti-China Soon

[Vanguard One]

LoL

Australia and Indonesia fought each other for East Timor.

And Japan, Vietnam, etc fought Ameria what's your point?

 

[Figaro]

India is already part of the Quad (which denotes four - US, India, Australia and Japan). I said I want this alliance to expand to include more countries, especially Pakistan.
Also, how does it follow that by joining this alliance Pakistan becomes India's subordinate? And no, not every alliance has a pecking order. Please study logic.

The only chance of forming some useful alliance against China died when the US withdrew out of the TPP. The "Quad" is nothing more than a force on paper .... what is needed is an economic bloc, not some half assed political bloc against China (hence TPP).

I live in the US and used to live in the South. White conservatives hate sharia law and Muslim invaders.

You are correct here but these conservatives typically do not say this in public or show any outward discrimination. What part of the South do you live in? I could certainly see states like Alabama or Louisiana being much more hostile towards Muslims than north Texas.

 

[Cherub786]

The only chance of forming some useful alliance against China died when the US withdrew out of the TPP. The "Quad" is nothing more than a force on paper .... what is needed is an economic bloc, not some half assed political bloc against China (hence TPP).

You are correct here but these conservatives typically do not say this in public or show any outward discrimination. What part of the South do you live in? I could certainly see states like Alabama or Louisiana being much more hostile towards Muslims than north Texas.

I totally agree. That was Trump's blunder which I'm sure his administration (if not him personally) is regretting big time. The thing is, a lot of Democrats on the left were also opposed to the TPP and celebrated when it was scrapped. Perhaps the next administration can revive the TPP and put China back on the defensive. Therefore, the method of countering China is both economic and political. India's recent decision to ban Chinese products was monumental, the Chinese were completely not expecting that. The way to hurt China is economically for sure, not some border skirmish. The recent scuffle with India along the LAC has also exposed how stupid China is, how they are unable to anticipate global reactions to their adventurism. China is certainly no evil genius. The US can defeat them easily if they play their cards right in this new Cold War.

 

[HalfMoon]

Quad - 5 eyes - NATO relationship will strengthen inevitably this decade.

Too much is being pushed by China... that will need to be resolutely answered.

NATO Is Brain Dead.

EU is neither interested in spending on defense nor fighting any wars. EU is happy being part of BRI and wants to do business with China.

Five Eyes and Quad are for all practical purposes US ONLY.

So US is the only country that matters.

But US is so scared of picking a fight with China that it does not even recognize Taiwan.

So all these wet dreams now come to an end.

 

[Novice09]

LoL

Australia and Indonesia fought each other for East Timor.

India-Pakistan-China are in SCO...

 

[HalfMoon]

And Japan, Vietnam, etc fought Ameria what's your point?

LoL

Imperial Japan that fought US no longer exists.

Today's Japan is just a slave country that runs based on the constitution that was imposed on them.

Talk about freedom.

 

[HalfMoon]

India-Pakistan-China are in SCO...

Indian will shortly be kicked out of SCO as soon as India invites Australia to join Malabar exercises.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

The only chance of forming some useful alliance against China died when the US withdrew out of the TPP. The "Quad" is nothing more than a force on paper .... what is needed is an economic bloc, not some half assed political bloc against China (hence TPP).

You are correct here but these conservatives typically do not say this in public or show any outward discrimination. What part of the South do you live in? I could certainly see states like Alabama or Louisiana being much more hostile towards Muslims than north Texas.

I cannot take risks to divulge my prior travel patterns. Suffice to say, I have interacted with people from the south, outside the south, and they'll make themselves clear after a few drinks.

 

[Figaro]

Indian will shortly be kicked out of SCO as soon as India invites Australia to join Malabar exercises.

India is in both the SCO and the Quad ... as a result it won't go as far as say Australia in antagonizing China.

 

[HalfMoon]

India is in both the SCO and the Quad ... as a result it won't go as far as say Australia in antagonizing China.

Quad is not a reality yet (officially). As soon as India joins Quad, India will be kicked out of SCO.

 

[1648]

Countries don't realize it but you accentuate a weakness of China, and China makes sure its weakness is turned into a strength. You can not defeat a country whose workers want to work hard and be modern.

Somewhere in the discussion it gets lost the democracy is the weakest form of government. Kingdom is the strongest. But CCP is a compromise; China is smart and adapts well to challenges thrown at it.

Go Wiki Excerpt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_democracy
Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time." While others, may be more prepared to describe existing democratic regimes as anything but "rule of the people."

Before anyone quotes me in futility spreading their indiocy, realize that in a democracy not all Americans are anti-China though their propaganda-ridden government might well be. Such an opposition to China is weak and hurts their own country more than China. Whereas Chinese have a unified resolve from Premier to Peasant.

As they say 'work hard and keep your mouth shut' would be the best policy if they want to contain China. Sports teams keep following this principles to win Olympics. Give us better products at better rates and even Pakistan will forget China. But would you (the arrogant QUAD) do that for us? LOL

Don't ever criticize China who a la USA, Russia hasn't given the world 2000 lb bombs killing infants as collateral damage, destroying infrastructure and never plans to unless pushed to the wall/provoked.

China instead has give roads & railways to countries & toys to the children to play with and have good memories of their childhood. And that's all we need if we keep the greed of politicians aside.

You are clearly an evil, and not evolved beyond ape if you're QUAD or something.

 

[Figaro]

Countries don't realize it but you accentuate a weakness of China, and China makes sure its weakness is turned into a strength. You can not defeat a country whose workers want to work hard and be modern.

Somewhere in the discussion it gets lost the democracy is the weakest form of government. Kingdom is the strongest. But CCP is a compromise; China is smart and adapts well to challenges thrown at it.

Go Wiki Excerpt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_democracy
Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time." While others, may be more prepared to describe existing democratic regimes as anything but "rule of the people."

Before anyone quotes me in futility spreading their indiocy, realize that in a democracy not all Americans are anti-China though their propaganda-ridden government might well be. Such an opposition to China is weak and hurts their own country more than China.

As they say 'work hard and keep your mouth shut' would be the best policy if they want to contain China. Sportsman keep following this principles to win Olympics. Give us better products at better rates and even Pakistan will forget China. But would you (the arrogant QUAD) do that? LOL

Democracy works in some countries but does not work in all countries. For example, do you think Russia is really better off with a democracy than without a democracy (a la USSR)? Or compare the development of a country like South Korea vs India. Both are democracies but the former is light years ahead.

 

[casual]

Those 4 were always against China so it doesn't change anything.

 

[1648]

Democracy works in some countries but does not work in all countries. For example, do you think Russia is really better off with a democracy than without a democracy (a la USSR)? Or compare the development of a country like South Korea vs India. Both are democracies but the former is light years ahead.

I am not aware of any studies that links democracy with (technological) development. The reason South Korea is ahead of indya is that they have (an unconditional) support of the entire West a la Israel.

South Korea makes sure for USA (who emerged as the superpower after WWII) that Japan, and now China wont ruminate over expansionist designs in the region.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

Perhaps the next administration can revive the TPP and put China back on the defensive.

China's not going to be put on the defensive by a trade agreement, especially not when it's putting together one of its own (involving many of the members of the TPP).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_Comprehensive_Economic_Partnership

The US can defeat them easily if they play their cards right in this new Cold War.

That you use the term "easily" to describe this shows how deeply your wishful thinking runs. I read your response to my question in the other thread before the mod deleted it. It's clear to me that you're coming at this from an emotional perspective and believe this is a morality play. Geopolitics is nothing of the sort; let go of the emotional, moralistic grandstanding and start calculating things rationally.

India's recent decision to ban Chinese products was monumental, the Chinese were completely not expecting that. The way to hurt China is economically for sure, not some border skirmish. The recent scuffle with India along the LAC has also exposed how stupid China is, how they are unable to anticipate global reactions to their adventurism.

Monumental... just how much of China's GDP did this "monumental" Indian decision cost it? And the recent scuffle along the LAC has only shown how impotent India is - all it can do is screech on social media and clownish television channels while China annexes yet more territory. Where are the global reactions?