The problem with Pakistan's blasphemy laws

[Meesna]

so the so called mullahs would have spread this hate culture had there been no such law even!!

Who do you think got the blasphemy law approved in the first place? Mullahs...to make their job easier by creating blasphemy culture.

 

[Solomon2]

We condemn any sort of religious intolerance.

Then why enable it?

...Normal BS comments against Pakistan , i have answerd it before -

Repeat or provide reference, please.

Pakistan is what it is and its no one else's business to tell us what to do -

Pakistan's activities aren't the issue but whether it should continue to treasure blasphemy laws as part of its identity or not. You yourself point out that you have seen these laws being misused. Will you be specific and add more to the discussion?

 

[Kompromat]

Who do you think got the blasphemy law approved in the first place? Mullahs...to make their job easier by creating blasphemy culture.

You dont really want to accept this simple fact do you ?

Blasphemy laws are there because we wanted them to be there and they were brought in by Ijma'a.

They are there because we need them to be there as it is a country for Islam and we cant let anyone do anything Idiotic.

 

[Shattered]

So if i happened to live in pak and critisied Mohammed or disrespected him i would be killed ?

wow that certinely changes the way i look at pak and its people......

 

[xenia]

Who do you think got the blasphemy law approved in the first place? Mullahs...to make their job easier by creating blasphemy culture.

u r obsessed with your preconcieved notions, i cant help that..ok trace a convincing realtion between these laws and times square bomber..i get one from the article..he was 5 when they were introduced!i dont think he even belongs to your "zia generation"!!

 

[Kompromat]

Then why enable it?

Repeat or provide reference, please.

Read my previous posts.

Pakistan's activities aren't the issue but whether it should continue to treasure blasphemy laws as part of its identity or not. You yourself point out that you have seen these laws being misused. Will you be specific and add more to the discussion?

All laws in the world are misused and there is nothing new about it you must accept it.

Israel has defied more UN resolutions than any other State in the modern history , they were never held responsible , not even for using phosporus Bombs in Gaza.

Same is with Blashphemy laws (Not all) that some are misused by some Mullahs in Pakistan but it does not happen very often.

Like i said before i would like to support any effort to make these laws more transperant that no one can Misuse these laws to discriminate any other religion who are living in peace.

There are some flaws in it and GOP is doing much needed work now on this issue which is appriciateable.

As far Abolishing these laws is concerned , let me tell you it wont happen neither it is logical to our idealogy.

 

[Meesna]

You dont really want to accept this simple fact do you ?

Blasphemy laws are there because we wanted them to be there and they were brought in by Ijma'a.

They are there because we need them to be there as it is a country for Islam and we cant let anyone do anything Idiotic.

The dictator Zial-ul-Haq who introduced this law was there by Ijma'a?

If there is Ijma'a (consensus) on this horrific law then every one has a lot to worry about, as the original article pointed out.

Let me be blunt, people who support blasphemy law (death penalty for one's beliefs) are brain damaged and their religion is an extremely evil one. There, now go ahead and declare a fatwa on my head. In the whole wide world, in general, no Muslim is lawfully allowed to be killed if they don't consider Jesus to be a god or if they do not respect Hindu idols -- as it should be that a Muslim can have whatever beliefs he wishes without any fear. However the problem is how to explain the Zia-ul-Haque generation what dark age their minds live in and that world only requires the same tolerance of them what it provides them happily.

A religion that needs to kill people to get respect does not deserve any.

 

[Kompromat]

The dictator Zial-ul-Haq who introduced this law was there by Ijma'a?

If there is Ijma'a (consensus) on this horrific law then every one has a lot to worry about, as the original article pointed out.

There are counter arguments to anything , so it does not bother me who is writting what out of what sort of motivation.

We did what we felt neccessary for our society , no one has the right to dictate us.

 

[xenia]

The dictator Zial-ul-Haq who introduced this law was there by Ijma'a?

If there is Ijma'a (consensus) on this horrific law then every one has a lot to worry about, as the original article pointed out.

u know what ijmaa is?its used when there are no clearcut indications from quran n sunnah..has nothing to do with selecting the head of state..
the fault with the law incorporated is that the proof of the deed isnt provided n people take law in their own hands!

 

[Solomon2]

As far Abolishing these laws is concerned , let me tell you it wont happen neither it is logical to our idealogy.

For the first 37 years of the state Pakistan did without such laws. Then they were imposed while the country was under the thumb of a dictator. Why should Pakistanis accept these laws as necessary and desirable, then?

 

[xenia]

So if i happened to live in pak and critisied Mohammed or disrespected him i would be killed ?

wow that certinely changes the way i look at pak and its people......

you better learn the difference between freedom of speech n blasphemy..

 

[alibaz]

So if i happened to live in pak and critisied Mohammed or disrespected him i would be killed ?

wow that certinely changes the way i look at pak and its people......

One thing I wana clear that blasphemy law is equally good if someone disrespects Jesus peace be upon him or any of the holly prophets. Probably this law is mostly misinterpreted. A muslim cannot be a muslim if he disrespects of Allahs any messenger. Any one who doesn't respect mighty messengers of Allah doesn't deserve to live in this world but should be tried through courts not by Mullahs.

 

[Shattered]

One thing I wana clear that blasphemy law is equally good if someone disrespects Jesus peace be upon him or any of the holly prophets. Probably this law is mostly misinterpreted. A muslim cannot be a muslim if he disrespects of Allahs any messenger. Any one who doesn't respect mighty messengers of Allah doesn't deserve to live in this world but should be tried through courts not by Mullahs.

I belive its unfair weather the person being disrespected is jesus or mohmad. I mean so what if some one disrespects them. Does it realy matter what those people think? I mean i am an thiest but i respect evreone's chhoice of relegion and i am Disrespect any relegion weather it be islam, hinduizm , judaizm or what ever tho if its a deabte thats another sotry. But sure if you guys realy want there should be some kind of punishment (not if the "prophet" is being criticised but if is being cursed by the person) but don't you think being sentence to death is a little bit too much ?

also thanks for the postive responce i was expecting someone to quote my post and say some thing along the lines of "your stupid or retard" anyways i look forward to postive responce =P.

 

[Shattered]

you better learn the difference between freedom of speech n blasphemy..

If i critise muhmad or islam and thats freedom of speach and i shouldn't be sent to that for just that but if i curse him and muslims then sure i should be punished since i would be racist to do that.

anyways this rule is kinda stupid and if you realy wanna aply it then it should be only aplied on muslims not christian, athiests or whatever.

 

[pak-yes]

If i critise muhmad or islam and thats freedom of speach and i shouldn't be sent to that for just that but if i curse him and muslims then sure i should be punished since i would be racist to do that.

anyways this rule is kinda stupid and if you realy wanna aply it then it should be only aplied on muslims not christian, athiests or whatever.

In your Previous post you said that you were not expecting positive response but you got it.And now you are saying that our Law is stupid so now you shouldn't expect positive response.Give respect get respect.Then why do you people send to jail a person who praises Hitler.I mean it's also freedom of Speech.