Talha Butt
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As a Pakistani national of Kashmiri ethhnicity[Family is originally from the valley, migrated like thusands of others in 1947] I just feel sooooooo Angry at all seculaist Pakistanis. It is thanks to them that the majority of my people want independence rather than accession to Pakistan Here are the words that express the sentiments of most Kashmiris in IoK-
To Afridi, BM, and others who think self oriented and self concerned is the only way to progress as a nation and Pakistan must think Pakistan first. This is a nationalist thought, although Islam is not absolutely against nationalism but if nationalism puts a blindfold on you to ignore injustice and persecution on other fellow human being or in particular a fellow Muslim, in pursuit of your nationalist agenda, your national objectives definitely fall in un Islamic.
I am from Indian occupied Kashmiri and to tell you honestly, Kashmirs were so much affectionate and sentimental about Pakistan and they still are but so much has happened in last 20 years armed struggle. Also change has due to exposure by modern technology, information and media. Before Kashmiris imagined Pakistan an ideal Muslim state where every one would live in peace and tranquility. A nation that was created to become a model Muslim state, where one and all would be treated as equals. A nation where Islam would reform a society in the best of moral character. Where knowledge would become a weapon to peace and prosperity. But unfortunately everything opposite happened. Now, who in a proper state of mind would like to fall from fire to fire pan. This indeed was a turning point for "Kashmir benaga Pakistan" slogan to an independent Kashmir.
Afridi and Beautiful Mind are thinking like President Mushraf who thinks prosperity of Pakistan is thinking Pakistan first. But his philosophy lacks the principle values of Islam which is brotherhood in standing against injustice First, because Nations no matter how big and how prosperous, vanish some day. Standing for justice prevails in principle. Being Pakistanis or Kashmiris we are also Muslims. We can not pick and choose Islam according to our Interests, that is called hypocrisy. Likewise, prosperity is not in modernity or social luxury or in so called cultural elite. as all these NGO's are chattering about. Prosperity is in honesty, integrity, simplisity, equality, struggle, patience, sharing and a vision. A vision that is inspired by the vision our Prophet had for mankind. A vision Alama Iqbal talked about. There is a difference of thought. We as Muslims do not have to make like India or America. We have our own identity and philosophy of living and only if we live it without man made addition of our own. There will be no nation beyond us. Imran Khan has the ability and wisdom to live that identity and carry on that VISON of Alama Iqbal that our present and old leadership in the Muslim world failed to live. That is why I admire him and his work and I would be happy if Pakistan one day receives his leadership at national level, though I dont live in Pakistan but who wouldnt like a country runs on Alama Iqbals vision. Every Muslim and non-Muslim would. I am looking forward to that day, InshaAllah.
Noor
A question to all those Pakistanis who favour an independent Kashmir- do you really think an Independent Kashmir is good for Pakistan's ideology? If Kashmir doesn't join Pakistan, then Pakistan should take the 'k' out of its name.
But I WANT Kashmir to join Pakistan. A nd you secularist Pakistanis and Musharraf and PPP lovers, you are responsible for the alienation of my ethnicity from Pakistan, which was meant to be the fort of Islam. Go to any Kashmiri page on facebook-be it aalaw,frontline kashmir, disputed kashmir, we love syed ali shah geelani, hoshaar jamaath-and you will find the same things I say.Why do you pakistani secularists hate zia-ul-haq? Do you know how popular he and the jamaat is amongst the Kashmiri Muslims. The slogans of Mard-e-momin and mard-e-haq have reached my kashmir too. Pakistan's only way forward is Islam!!!!!!!
This is a frustrated Kashmiri speaking, and i have seen Pakistan and realised its great potential as an ISLAMIC state, yet the millions of kashmiris in IoK who have not seen Pakistan, do not realise its true potential but still love Pakistan. You secularist pakistanis should be grateful to the little support you have left in kashmir!!!!!!! Where were u secularists when jamaat-e -islami was the only voice who spoke for kashmiris in the wake of musharraf's betrayal
And indians are requested to stay away from this thread, as a Pakistani AND Kashmiri I have DOUBLE hatred for all things India and Indians. I won't bother reply to indian members...
To Afridi, BM, and others who think self oriented and self concerned is the only way to progress as a nation and Pakistan must think Pakistan first. This is a nationalist thought, although Islam is not absolutely against nationalism but if nationalism puts a blindfold on you to ignore injustice and persecution on other fellow human being or in particular a fellow Muslim, in pursuit of your nationalist agenda, your national objectives definitely fall in un Islamic.
I am from Indian occupied Kashmiri and to tell you honestly, Kashmirs were so much affectionate and sentimental about Pakistan and they still are but so much has happened in last 20 years armed struggle. Also change has due to exposure by modern technology, information and media. Before Kashmiris imagined Pakistan an ideal Muslim state where every one would live in peace and tranquility. A nation that was created to become a model Muslim state, where one and all would be treated as equals. A nation where Islam would reform a society in the best of moral character. Where knowledge would become a weapon to peace and prosperity. But unfortunately everything opposite happened. Now, who in a proper state of mind would like to fall from fire to fire pan. This indeed was a turning point for "Kashmir benaga Pakistan" slogan to an independent Kashmir.
Afridi and Beautiful Mind are thinking like President Mushraf who thinks prosperity of Pakistan is thinking Pakistan first. But his philosophy lacks the principle values of Islam which is brotherhood in standing against injustice First, because Nations no matter how big and how prosperous, vanish some day. Standing for justice prevails in principle. Being Pakistanis or Kashmiris we are also Muslims. We can not pick and choose Islam according to our Interests, that is called hypocrisy. Likewise, prosperity is not in modernity or social luxury or in so called cultural elite. as all these NGO's are chattering about. Prosperity is in honesty, integrity, simplisity, equality, struggle, patience, sharing and a vision. A vision that is inspired by the vision our Prophet had for mankind. A vision Alama Iqbal talked about. There is a difference of thought. We as Muslims do not have to make like India or America. We have our own identity and philosophy of living and only if we live it without man made addition of our own. There will be no nation beyond us. Imran Khan has the ability and wisdom to live that identity and carry on that VISON of Alama Iqbal that our present and old leadership in the Muslim world failed to live. That is why I admire him and his work and I would be happy if Pakistan one day receives his leadership at national level, though I dont live in Pakistan but who wouldnt like a country runs on Alama Iqbals vision. Every Muslim and non-Muslim would. I am looking forward to that day, InshaAllah.
Noor
A question to all those Pakistanis who favour an independent Kashmir- do you really think an Independent Kashmir is good for Pakistan's ideology? If Kashmir doesn't join Pakistan, then Pakistan should take the 'k' out of its name.
But I WANT Kashmir to join Pakistan. A nd you secularist Pakistanis and Musharraf and PPP lovers, you are responsible for the alienation of my ethnicity from Pakistan, which was meant to be the fort of Islam. Go to any Kashmiri page on facebook-be it aalaw,frontline kashmir, disputed kashmir, we love syed ali shah geelani, hoshaar jamaath-and you will find the same things I say.Why do you pakistani secularists hate zia-ul-haq? Do you know how popular he and the jamaat is amongst the Kashmiri Muslims. The slogans of Mard-e-momin and mard-e-haq have reached my kashmir too. Pakistan's only way forward is Islam!!!!!!!
This is a frustrated Kashmiri speaking, and i have seen Pakistan and realised its great potential as an ISLAMIC state, yet the millions of kashmiris in IoK who have not seen Pakistan, do not realise its true potential but still love Pakistan. You secularist pakistanis should be grateful to the little support you have left in kashmir!!!!!!! Where were u secularists when jamaat-e -islami was the only voice who spoke for kashmiris in the wake of musharraf's betrayal
And indians are requested to stay away from this thread, as a Pakistani AND Kashmiri I have DOUBLE hatred for all things India and Indians. I won't bother reply to indian members...