The predicament of expatriates

[abdul1]

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You have ran around every where but not able to answer why Pakistanis are singled out for terrorist activities every where even from the so called allies

 

[abdul1]

Such things are not a laughing matter as it applies to not only Pakistani's but all south asians and other poor people from third world countries.

And as for you saying it is better to have an Indian passport for not being labelled a terrorist, it is wrong because all muslims are treated as such even from India and Shahrukh Khan's shameful treatment is an example.

You seriously trust that clown shahrukh khan man he will sell anything for coming in to news. And no having Indian passport has never put me in to any trouble. Please don't bring our religion in to it. The fact remains Pakistanis are singled out for terrorism related activities in other countries getting killed in there own country by foreigners with impunity.

 

[abdul1]

I simply responded to your post.

This one:




I dont understand whats getting your panties in a bunch over seeing that article by Los Angeles Times.

You should have seen the post is in response of post no. 2. Still you are not able to answer why Pakistanis are singled out

 

[araz]

Guys
can you hold on to your twitchy fingers and think for a second.This is a problem which faces every developing country, including even China, Turkey, Eastern Eurpoe and Russia.It is an inherent quality in man to go from country to country to seek a livelihood. Rules and regulations are therefore put to one side in the quest for livelihood.There is nothing wrong with seeking livelihood, but illegal immigrants are from every country and are a problem every where. The reason they are more of a problem in india, pakistan, Bangladesh and Srilanka is the lack of infrastructure at the Government level to not only export its labour but also to ensure that their rights are safe guarded. It is economically driven and as soon as countries are able to offer its people a safe environemnt to work and earn a living theuy return to their own countries. Our Embassies have been bone idle in this regards and they dont have the will to tackle this issue as they do not know the depth of the problem. You need to discuss the issue rather than flame baiting.
Araz

 

[T-Faz]

You seriously trust that clown shahrukh khan man he will sell anything for coming in to news. And no having Indian passport has never put me in to any trouble. Please don't bring our religion in to it. The fact remains Pakistanis are singled out for terrorism related activities in other countries getting killed in there own country by foreigners with impunity.

I don't think you are capable of understanding what I said, it has everything to do with religion and social standing in the current world. All muslims are singled out and even other people resembling them are singled out. The countries named for enchanced check up by US shows that. Yes Pakistani's are singles out because they are all considered to be muslims but what about hindu and christian or jews who are pakistani.

Also foreigners killed your people in your own country and you couldnt do a damn thing about it. Its one thing to have civilsed discussion, anoher to be completely moronic and act as a brainwashed individual.

 

[prithwidw]

Whatever be the case, Indian expatriates have been a strong force in building India's economy.

Imagine leaving your country to go and work in a foreign land, so that you could make life a little easier, send some money back home, which in turn swells little by little the country's foreign reserves' kitty.

I don't know much about Pakistan, so will not comment. But opening up the Indian economy in 1991 and those innumerable Indian expatriates who have worked very hard in conditions known only to them to have a good life and make sure people back in India have a good life too deserve special status.

The PM of India has announced recently that India will invest $1Trillion in infrastructure. Would this be possible without expatriates?

 

[pak-marine]

You have ran around every where but not able to answer why Pakistanis are singled out for terrorist activities every where even from the so called allies

wake up and look around you same for Indians .... you have a bigger problem than us , ours started now and we will "wrap this crap" in few years whereas in you case some places its more than 60 years old"" and most likley the way your country is dealing with they will never end.

ULTA CHOOR KOTWAL DANTAY !""

p.s: did you watched that cry baby movie my name is khan "" whats the message ?

 

[abdul1]

I don't think you are capable of understanding what I said, it has everything to do with religion and social standing in the current world. All muslims are singled out and even other people resembling them are singled out. The countries named for enchanced check up by US shows that. Yes Pakistani's are singles out because they are all considered to be muslims but what about hindu and christian or jews who are pakistani.

Also foreigners killed your people in your own country and you couldnt do a damn thing about it. Its one thing to have civilsed discussion, anoher to be completely moronic and act as a brainwashed individual.

Huh I have traveled but never faced any sort of discrimination so don't make statements which does not hold any ground

 

[TruthSeeker]

Mr. abdul1,

You obviously posted the Pakistani Ambassador's lament with great relish and schadenfreude. And so, the predictable flame war ensued. It is very sad that Pakistanis must endure a lot of individual hardship because of the actions of a few extremists in their midst. You Indians could help out by demilitarizing your border with them and letting a UN run plebiscite on governance be held in Kashmir. Why not be constructive with your neighbor? Why do you take such pleasure in taunting them?

Regards,
TS

 

[abdul1]

Mr. abdul1,

You obviously posted the Pakistani Ambassador's lament with great relish and schadenfreude. And so, the predictable flame war ensued. It is very sad that Pakistanis must endure a lot of individual hardship because of the actions of a few extremists in their midst. You Indians could help out by demilitarizing your border with them and letting a UN run plebiscite on governance be held in Kashmir. Why not be constructive with your neighbor? Why do you take such pleasure in taunting them?

Regards,
TS

Mr. truthseeker are you trying to justify the terrorism unleashed on us be getting behind the issue of Kashmir. Kashmir was attacked by Pakistan (for land grabbing and for getting control over water: Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan) there king signed for accession with India hence it is Indian territory and why should we give unilateral concessions? It's there job to put there house in order not ours.

 

[s6demon]

there king signed for accession with India hence it is Indian territory and why should we give unilateral concessions? It's there job to put there house in order not ours.

I thought India was for democracy. When it suits you, you say that the king sided with India against the Muslim majority and that makes it okay even though Kashmiris protest every day for autonomy and carry Pakistan flags.


During the partition the Muslim majority areas became Pakistan and Hindu majority became Hindustan. the Indians now want the Hindu majority areas and also the Muslim majority areas which had a Hindu ruler. If that was the case then the Mughal ruler was Muslim, why not give the autonomy of your entire state over to Pakistan?

And If Kashmir was a part of Hindustan, why then did your country attack Kashmir in 1948?


and another thing, Where is that letter from that Hindu ruler BTW? other Indian friends tell me that the letter of intent disappeared from the museum or something. I am sure another letter has been forged by now to fool the public. Please post it.

 

[abdul1]

I thought India was for democracy. When it suits you, you say that the king sided with India against the Muslim majority and that makes it okay even though Kashmiris protest every day for autonomy and carry Pakistan flags.


During the partition the Muslim majority areas became Pakistan and Hindu majority became Hindustan. the Indians now want the Hindu majority areas and also the Muslim majority areas which had a Hindu ruler. If that was the case then the Mughal ruler was Muslim, why not give the autonomy of your entire state over to Pakistan?

And If Kashmir was a part of Hindustan, why then did your country attack Kashmir in 1948?


and another thing, Where is that letter from that Hindu ruler BTW? other Indian friends tell me that the letter of intent disappeared from the museum or something. I am sure another letter has been forged by now to fool the public. Please post it.

Get your facts straight princely states can take there independent way that was the mandate at time of partition if they want they can sign accession with any of us and it's high time you stop crying for us in our country as we are much better off we don't see targeted bombings. And any way we are discussing why Pakistanis are singled out for terrorism related activities right

 

[Cisco-GUY]

Unfortunately, this is true by my personal experience as well. My brother-in-law was in airport security and he told me norms against various nations. Yes, Pakistanis are dealt with more suspicion both on random checking and immigration counters.

But if you are clean, its nothing more than a minor inconvinence.

 

[s6demon]

we don't see targeted bombings.

have you already forgotton the naxalls and the bjp and bajrangdal and shiv senna etc etc??


you dont just have targeted bombings, you have outright massacres. The massarces in Kashmir, the Sikh Massacre, the Gujrat Muslims massacre, the Orissa Christian massacre, the Assam massacre, the demolition of Babri Masjid, the list goes on.


and Kashmiris never did nor want to now or ever be part of India. That is pretty obvious every time they protest and chant Long Live Pakistan while carrying Pakistani flags.

 

[Cisco-GUY]

Mr. abdul1,

You obviously posted the Pakistani Ambassador's lament with great relish and schadenfreude. And so, the predictable flame war ensued. It is very sad that Pakistanis must endure a lot of individual hardship because of the actions of a few extremists in their midst. You Indians could help out by demilitarizing your border with them and letting a UN run plebiscite on governance be held in Kashmir. Why not be constructive with your neighbor? Why do you take such pleasure in taunting them?

Regards,
TS

Truthseeker, you obviously are short on facts and void on history. Half-baked arguments coupled with humatarian rhetoric is not going to fly here. Do you believe in killing of innocents in name of freedom fight (9/11 was infact for palestien cause.) ? Do you believe in selective hunting by pakistan army and their nomenclature of Good taliban and bad taliban ? Do you buy making peace with a neighbor whose official objective stated by their president was “bleeding India with 1000 cuts” ? Kashmir is vital for Pakistan, Kashmiris are NOT. One who controls kashmir controls the water resources and that’s whole bone of contention.

So before you embarrass yourself and your fragment of limbering truth, make sure what you seek capish?