New Recruit
you are Ignorant and a fool what can one expect from you since you are a Wahhabi.You wanna discuss religion start a new topic.i will be more then happy to rip you a new one not that you need it as you are one.
Here is example enjoy
The Beliefs Of Ibn 'Abdul-Wahhab
What Ibn 'Abdul-Wahhab's father, brother, and shaykhs speculated about him came true-by the Will of Allah, Ta'ala. Ibn 'Abdul-Wahhab innovated deviant and misleading ways and beliefs and managed to allure some ignorant people to follow him. His deviant and misleading ways and beliefs disagreed with the sayings of the scholars of the Religion. His deviant beliefs led him to label the believers as blasphemers! He falsely claimed visiting the grave of the Prophet, sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam, and performing the tawassul(5) by him as shirk(6). Additionally, he falsely claimed visiting the graves of other prophets and righteous Muslims (awliya’and performing tawassul by them was shirk as well. He added to this by saying, "To call upon the Prophet, sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam, when performing tawassul by the Prophet is shirk." He passed the same judgment of shirk on the ones who call upon other prophets and righteous Muslims (awliya’
In an effort to give credibility to his innovations Ibn 'Abdul-Wahhab embellished his sayings by quotations which he selected from Islamic sources, i.e., quotations which are used as proofs for many issues but not the issues which Ibn 'Abdul-Wahhab was attempting to support. He brought false statements and tried to beautify them for the laymen until they followed him. He wrote treatises for them until they believed that most of the People of Tawhid(7) were blasphemers.
Alliance With The Saudi Family
Moreover, Ibn 'Abdul-Wahhab called upon the princes of eastern Arabia and the people of ad-Dar'iyyah(8) to support him. They carried his doctrine and made this endeavor a means to strengthen and expand their kingdom. They worked together to suppress the Bedouins of the deserts until they overcame them and those Bedouins followed them and became foot-soldiers for them without pay. After that, these masses started to believe that whoever does not believe in what Ibn 'Abdul-Wahhab said is a blasphemer, and it is Islamically lawful (halal) to shed his blood and plunder his money.
The matter of Ibn 'Abdul-Wahhab started to evidence itself in 1143 A.H. and began spreading after 1150 A.H. Subsequently, the scholars--even his brother, Shaykh Sulayman and the rest of his shaykhs-- authored many treatises to refute him. But Muhammad Ibn Su'ud, the Prince of ad-Dar'iyyah in eastern Arabia, supported him and worked to spread his ideology. Ibn Su'ud was from Banu Hanifah, the people of Musaylimah al-Kadhdhab(9). When Muhammad Ibn Su'ud died, his son 'Abdul-'Aziz Ibn Muhammad Ibn Su'ud took over the responsibility of fulfilling the vile task of spreading the Wahhabi beliefs.
Many of the shaykhs of Ibn 'Abdul-Wahhab in Medina used to say, "He will be misguided, and he will misguide those for whom Allah willed the misguidance." Things took place as per the speculation of the scholars. Ibn 'Abdul-Wahhab claimed his intention behind the madhhab he invented was "to purify the Tawhid" and "repudiate the shirk." He also claimed people had been following the shirk for six-hundred years and he revived their Religion for them!!
I also like the avatar you use Satans ***** every time any pakistani dies at the hands of Wahhabi terrorist people immediately say zia the bastard did this to us.May he rote in hell for eternity.
Homosexuality is allowed in Wahhabi sum did not know that.
indeed this is more complicated than this. KSA is not the prophet by the way. you have one point of view . i respect it but don't judge us as simple as you do.
i remember he was a smart guy from your country, he was a doctor, we got many discussions with him. he was tolerant.
anyway just see one exemple:
in Africa they have figuration, i guess you know it right? so they are not muslim? they can even pray in front of a statue and believe a statue will help them...
when we pray we have a piece of soil. and yes we go to these places ... to touch. we are not considering it as a figuration of the prophet. for us this is just a place to remember the family. this is a shrine. ok i understand you don't like it. this is your opinion.
by the way i went to Mecca .. at least your country considered me as muslim.
another point: there are some fanatics in all countries. in ours as well. some people are haters. don't blame all shias because of some people.
to say the truth, most muslims in Europe i met (no Iranian they are rare herea lot of Africans here i wonder as many as the white people lol) didn't go to Mecca. Even the people who went there didn't consider KSA to be a religious leader, not to offense you but just the country WHERE IT IS. Mecca is important for all of us anyway, whatever the government is in your ocuntry, whaterever is the family in power. Mecca is Mecca.
and yes you can consider us much willing to go there. it is true. i ddn't see anything bad about it.
just this is off topic... but in Iran most young people don't care religion now. they are not shias anymore. some people with their extremism killed religion in our country. you blame shias , they want individual rights and more tolerant Islam.i blame these extremists too.
i didn't know the newspaper The INdependant was shia. good to know
