The PAF is set to receive a batch of Egyptian Air Force Mirage-Vs

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[Bilal9]

My apologies if this news item has been posted prior. Replace 'Mirage' with 'Phantom'.

According to overseas media reports, the Pakistan Air Force has decided to introduce from the Egyptian Air Force. Twenty-five second-hand Phantom 5 fighter-bombers were added to complement the existing Phantom fighter fleet to enhance the Pakistani Air Force's long-range strike capability.

Many people may feel strange that the Pakistan Air Force has nearly 80 F-16 fighters and 100 JF-17 fighters. Why continue to introduce second-generation fighters such as the Mirage 5?

The Phantom 5 fighter-bomber equipped by the
Pakistan Air Force is actually a very realistic decision for the Pakistan Air Force. Pakistan’s national strength is limited, the ability to purchase new fighters is low, all the replacement of existing fighters requires a long period of time, and the second-hand fighters are cheap, and the funds are limited. The Air Force is very attractive. The Phantom Fighter is also the main fighter of the Pakistan Air Force. It has a total of 180 Mirage-3/-5 fighters. The Pakistan Air Force has also established a relatively complete logistics support system to further reduce the cost of the Mirage fighter. Only a part of this phantom 5 should be refurbished to join the Pakistan Air Force, and another part may be disassembled as a spare part.

For the Pakistan Air Force, although the Mirage fighter is old, the voyage and load capacity can not be underestimated. Take the Mirage-5 introduced as an example. Its design emphasizes the long-range strike capability. The maximum range of the aircraft is 4000 kilometers. More than 4 tons, these two indicators have exceeded JF-17, reaching or close to the F-16 level, but the F-16 is restricted by the United States, can not be used for long-range strike missions, the Pakistan Air Force ROSE upgrade of the Mirage series fighters, equipped The new avionics system, airborne radar and weapons have further enhanced their combat capabilities, so the last time the Pakistan Air Force countered the target in India was the use of the Mirage-5 fighter-bomber.

This picture best reflects the Phantom 5 payload and long-range strike capability.
According to overseas data, the Phantom-5 introduced by the Pakistan Air Force has also been upgraded. In the new century, the Egyptian Air Force has made a comprehensive improvement on the existing Mirage-5 fighter. Refitted with RC400 airborne pulse Doppler radar, missile approach warning system, photoelectric targeting pod, helmet display and vitrified cockpit and other new systems and equipment, the overall combat capability is close to the level of the third generation fighter, the Pakistan Air Force is now lacking Three generations of fighters, it is obviously very cost-effective to introduce these Mirage-5 fighters at a low price.

Egyptian Air Force's Phantom 5, this picture is the upgraded state

of the Mirage 5, pay attention to the difference between the nose.

It uses the RC400 radar, this radar is the RDY radar light model.
For the Pakistan Air Force, this phantom The greater value of the 5 fighter is that its avionics system has a lot of equipment from the Mirage-2000-5 fighter, while the Indian Air Force Mirage 2000H fighter upgraded avionics system is also derived from the Mirage 2000-5 fighter improved-Phantom-2000MK2 fighter, such as The phantom-5 fighters are equipped with the RC400 radar, and the RC400 radar is the RDY radar light model. It is basically the same as the RDY except that the antenna size is smaller than the RDY and the transmitter power is lower. In theory, If the Pakistani Air Force introduces Mika active radar-guided air-to-air missiles, the Phantom 5 fighters will be able to have the ability of over-the-horizon air combat, and will be able to compete with the upgraded Phantom 2000H of the Indian Air Force during air combat.

The Indian Air Force upgraded the Phantom 2000 and chose the RDY radar. The
Indian Air Force has always used the Mirage 2000H fighter as the main combat aircraft of the India-Pakistan conflict. Before the Indian air strike attacked the target in Pakistan, it used the Mirage 2000H fighter. Therefore, after speculating that the Egyptian Air Force’s Mirage 5 fighters were obtained, The Pakistan Air Force will definitely use it as an imaginary enemy force, allowing the F-16, JF-17 and other fighters to conduct simulated air combat confrontation with it in order to gain experience against the Indian Air Force Mirage 2000 fighter.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

Mirages are to us as B52s are to the USAF. Our bomb trucks have speed,rigid air frames,good numbers and are capable of further modifications. I would love to see a powerful engine in them to enhance their payload and speed. These deltas have no comparison in deep strike and interdiction roles and we have mastered them.

 

[denel]

My apologies if this news item has been posted prior. Replace 'Mirage' with 'Phantom'.

According to overseas media reports, the Pakistan Air Force has decided to introduce from the Egyptian Air Force. Twenty-five second-hand Phantom 5 fighter-bombers were added to complement the existing Phantom fighter fleet to enhance the Pakistani Air Force's long-range strike capability.

Many people may feel strange that the Pakistan Air Force has nearly 80 F-16 fighters and 100 JF-17 fighters. Why continue to introduce second-generation fighters such as the Mirage 5?

The Phantom 5 fighter-bomber equipped by the
Pakistan Air Force is actually a very realistic decision for the Pakistan Air Force. Pakistan’s national strength is limited, the ability to purchase new fighters is low, all the replacement of existing fighters requires a long period of time, and the second-hand fighters are cheap, and the funds are limited. The Air Force is very attractive. The Phantom Fighter is also the main fighter of the Pakistan Air Force. It has a total of 180 Mirage-3/-5 fighters. The Pakistan Air Force has also established a relatively complete logistics support system to further reduce the cost of the Mirage fighter. Only a part of this phantom 5 should be refurbished to join the Pakistan Air Force, and another part may be disassembled as a spare part.

For the Pakistan Air Force, although the Mirage fighter is old, the voyage and load capacity can not be underestimated. Take the Mirage-5 introduced as an example. Its design emphasizes the long-range strike capability. The maximum range of the aircraft is 4000 kilometers. More than 4 tons, these two indicators have exceeded JF-17, reaching or close to the F-16 level, but the F-16 is restricted by the United States, can not be used for long-range strike missions, the Pakistan Air Force ROSE upgrade of the Mirage series fighters, equipped The new avionics system, airborne radar and weapons have further enhanced their combat capabilities, so the last time the Pakistan Air Force countered the target in India was the use of the Mirage-5 fighter-bomber.

This picture best reflects the Phantom 5 payload and long-range strike capability.
According to overseas data, the Phantom-5 introduced by the Pakistan Air Force has also been upgraded. In the new century, the Egyptian Air Force has made a comprehensive improvement on the existing Mirage-5 fighter. Refitted with RC400 airborne pulse Doppler radar, missile approach warning system, photoelectric targeting pod, helmet display and vitrified cockpit and other new systems and equipment, the overall combat capability is close to the level of the third generation fighter, the Pakistan Air Force is now lacking Three generations of fighters, it is obviously very cost-effective to introduce these Mirage-5 fighters at a low price.

Egyptian Air Force's Phantom 5, this picture is the upgraded state

of the Mirage 5, pay attention to the difference between the nose.

It uses the RC400 radar, this radar is the RDY radar light model.
For the Pakistan Air Force, this phantom The greater value of the 5 fighter is that its avionics system has a lot of equipment from the Mirage-2000-5 fighter, while the Indian Air Force Mirage 2000H fighter upgraded avionics system is also derived from the Mirage 2000-5 fighter improved-Phantom-2000MK2 fighter, such as The phantom-5 fighters are equipped with the RC400 radar, and the RC400 radar is the RDY radar light model. It is basically the same as the RDY except that the antenna size is smaller than the RDY and the transmitter power is lower. In theory, If the Pakistani Air Force introduces Mika active radar-guided air-to-air missiles, the Phantom 5 fighters will be able to have the ability of over-the-horizon air combat, and will be able to compete with the upgraded Phantom 2000H of the Indian Air Force during air combat.

The Indian Air Force upgraded the Phantom 2000 and chose the RDY radar. The
Indian Air Force has always used the Mirage 2000H fighter as the main combat aircraft of the India-Pakistan conflict. Before the Indian air strike attacked the target in Pakistan, it used the Mirage 2000H fighter. Therefore, after speculating that the Egyptian Air Force’s Mirage 5 fighters were obtained, The Pakistan Air Force will definitely use it as an imaginary enemy force, allowing the F-16, JF-17 and other fighters to conduct simulated air combat confrontation with it in order to gain experience against the Indian Air Force Mirage 2000 fighter.

You mean phantom 4? What advantages will it deliver? its engines are fuel guzzlers.

 

[airomerix]

Mirages are to us as B52s are to the USAF. Our bomb trucks have speed,rigid air frames,good numbers and are capable of further modifications. I would love to see a powerful engine in them to enhance their payload and speed. These deltas have no comparison in deep strike and interdiction roles and we have mastered them.

On the other side they are not effective for self defense. They require escorts.

US deploys B-52's after attaining air superiority over a territory. With no SCUDS, MANPADs or bandits around. Pakistan will never have this luxury. Multirole fighters are the need of the hour. With a click of a button they drop the A2G payload and then become air superiority fighters.

 

[Trailer23]

Funny, @Imran Khan bhai has yet to comment on the above discussion. Usually he's the first to curse out such ideas. I can't imagine if there was any truth to the PAF considering those Vietnam-era F-4's. All hell would break loose.

 

[Imran Khan]

Why not consider SAAB Gripen JAS 39 .its latest and can compete rafale and is much less priced .

usa ki balls nhi uthai jati is liye

Funny, @Imran Khan bhai has yet to comment on the above discussion. Usually he's the first to curse out such ideas. I can't imagine if there was any truth to the PAF considering those Vietnam-era F-4's. All hell would break loose.

f104 nikalo kaheen se yaar used nya purana jesa bhi ho

 

[airomerix]

usa ki balls nhi uthai jati is liye


f104 nikalo kaheen se yaar used nya purana jesa bhi ho

A-5s are better. Trust me.

 

[maxpayne]

Very good decision in this time when War is at your door step . Remember the Mirage III/5 is the PAF’s sole delivery platform for key stand-off weapons (SOW), namely the H-2 and H-4 glide-bombs (which are derived from the Denel Dynamics Raptor I and Raptor II , ranges of 60 km and 120 km, respectively) and Ra’ad I and Ra’ad II air launched cruise missiles (ALCM), which have ranges of 350 km and 550 km, respectively. The Mirage 5PA3 can also carry the MBDA AM39 Exocet anti-ship missile (AShM). Mirage 5PA3 was the PAF’s only AShW asset as it still operates from the PAF Air Bases as well as in time of war can operates from other sites(roads motorway etc) as Tactical Attack Wing.

you forget jf17 which can fire c802ak

 

[maxpayne]

Reason we keep mirages is the Same as India keep their jaguars

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Considering Pakistan is going thru Economic equilibrium management , it is appropriate that we should act according to our finances

• Mirage V from Egypt , can be refurbished inside Pakistan, as we have a rebuilding and manufacturing unit

If Pakistan's Rebuild Factory do their Magic , I would like to see the end result with new plane color scheme to identify the Egyptian Imported Birds

 

[syed_yusuf]

Considering Pakistan is going thru Economic equilibrium management , it is appropriate that we should act according to our finances

• Mirage V from Egypt , can be refurbished inside Pakistan, as we have a rebuilding and manufacturing unit

If Pakistan's Rebuild Factory do their Magic , I would like to see the end result with new plane color scheme to identify the Egyptian Imported Birds

23 mirage 5 hora doesn't need any upgradation. The can walk right into paf service

 

[khanasifm]

Mirage range is based on 2x 1700 liters drop tanks plus. A center line 1300 liters tank but with very high fuel guzzler 1950 technology turbo jet it’s combat range is similar or short of jf-17 with 2x1300 litres plus 1x 800 litres drop tanks

But for less than million dollar (Ausies mirages were 500k each averaging), cannot beat that plus pac/paf has extensive infrastructure in place along with pilots with 1000s of hours experience

Lastly with multi role sqns ie each Sqn has dedicated role antiship, night attack, standoff attack , recon etc you get very specialised role vs multi role Sqn which is expensive deal training every pilot for every role equates to more hours flying and $$$$