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The PAF is set to receive a batch of Egyptian Air Force Mirage-Vs

Thunder was supposed to replace all of the mentioned above fighters as long as it was getting a French Engine which was initially committed to by the French in the year 2000-2001. All of the design was around that Engine and so was the the expectation to a certain extent. When the French ditched, a lot of things changed.
As far as i remeber engine was never requested from french..just the avionics and weapon suit
 
Hearing about these mirages since 2017 ? Discolored by Xxxxxx, let’s see if this happens ;)
 
Isnt it too old for our fleet.. we sud be looking somthing twin engin aircrafts.
 
Thunder was supposed to replace all of the mentioned above fighters as long as it was getting a French Engine which was initially committed to by the French in the year 2000-2001. All of the design was around that Engine and so was the the expectation to a certain extent. When the French ditched, a lot of things changed.
The aim of JF development was to get rid of Western influence and especially US. As their military sales are always attached with strings of foreign policy agenda.
Also at one point Pakistan even rejected Gripen in Musharraf era as Gripen has US engine.
So it is highly unlikely that French Engine or Avionics, radar, fire control system was planned for JF.
 
To keep numbers relevant and to keep entire fleet technologically effective paf needs to keep mirage flying with updates and upgrades nothing wrong with it as long as we can keep quality intact which I think paf is doing effectively. These mirages are very much relevant in strike role with proper upgrades and top notch maintenance. These 36 Egyptian mirages with spares etc could be very relevant addition to paf effecient fleet of upgraded mirages. Paf mirages could support thunder and falcon effectively.
 
JF-17 Block-3 will take care of every threat...
We have put too much in one basket. JF-17 is meant to fulfill numbers and give BVR capability to the bulk of PAF fleet. It's not a world beater or up to the power of Rafale or J-10C it's a light weight jet with limited range and payload. We need heavy hitters only option available is J-10C. Pic of its cockpit is attached.
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We have put too much in one basket. JF-17 is meant to fulfill numbers and give BVR capability to the bulk of PAF fleet. It's not a world beater or up to the power of Rafale or J-10C it's a light weight jet with limited range and payload. We need heavy hitters only option available is J-10C. Pic of its cockpit is attached.View attachment 579558

Pic of ? Jf block 3 ?
 
We have put too much in one basket. JF-17 is meant to fulfill numbers and give BVR capability to the bulk of PAF fleet. It's not a world beater or up to the power of Rafale or J-10C it's a light weight jet with limited range and payload. We need heavy hitters only option available is J-10C. Pic of its cockpit is attached.View attachment 579558
J-10C is not a heavy hitters if thats what you are looking for. Look towards Russia or Europe if you want heavies.
 
To keep numbers relevant and to keep entire fleet technologically effective paf needs to keep mirage flying with updates and upgrades nothing wrong with it as long as we can keep quality intact which I think paf is doing effectively. These mirages are very much relevant in strike role with proper upgrades and top notch maintenance. These 36 Egyptian mirages with spares etc could be very relevant addition to paf effecient fleet of upgraded mirages. Paf mirages could support thunder and falcon effectively.
Correct, if that is the premium these birds are being put with, then I have said this before consolidation effort needs to be made to upgrade these to a common standardised platform similar to cheetah.
 
Correct, if that is the premium these birds are being put with, then I have said this before consolidation effort needs to be made to upgrade these to a common standardised platform similar to cheetah.

Noob question

Is it cost effective to upgrade such old airframes to cheetah.
Cheetah is a pretty extensive upgrade of mirages .
What would be the cost of upgrading them ?
 
Correct, if that is the premium these birds are being put with, then I have said this before consolidation effort needs to be made to upgrade these to a common standardised platform similar to cheetah.
How many Cheetah are available? May be PAF goes for them in the near future.
 
Noob question

Is it cost effective to upgrade such old airframes to cheetah.
Cheetah is a pretty extensive upgrade of mirages .
What would be the cost of upgrading them ?
You are not inventing the wheel; we have done this over and over at Atlas, infact some of the wings on your M3's are from Atlas.
 

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