The Only Way to World Peace is an Islamic Union

[Neptune]

Mate thats why I said () ." Nor we or them want Turkey in. "

As Turks, rather than a union, we see EU more like a vision, an objective to achieve the economy and life standards of Europe. Thats it.

 

[WishLivePak]

Islamic Union?? Seriously??

Islamic countries and groups are fighting among themselves and are one of the biggest contributors to the loss of human lives.

Pakistani can't marry saudi :p

and they talking about union

 

[Hiptullha]

I hope you realize that if and when Muslim gang up into some kind of an union, there will be a natural reaction for the rest of the world to gang up against that union. Can the Muslim world afford this? For ex. if the world Muslim union starts to get involved in conflict areas like Kashmir, Xinjiang or Chechnya, then India, China and Russia will naturally come together to fight it.

If there ever will be an Islamic union, it would be quite formidable and to "gang up" on it, the two major powers right now would need to unite together and separate differences. And what makes you think a union would not try to find cordial relations with its' neighbors and potential rivals?

 

[kalu_miah]

Who gives a crap about what a religious figure says in the EU, the EU is secular and doesn't have an official religion. Turkey can join the EU if it wants to and the EU should accept them, I don't see why Turkey couldn't.

Its not just religious figures many French and German heads of states expressed this sentiment. And the the feeling is still quite wide spread among EU population, may be it will change in the future:

We Muslims of the world wish Turkey well and hope that they are accepted in EU, but if they are not accepted then that is fine too, as they have many other options, like ECO and D-8 etc. With or without membership in EU, Turkey will remain the leading Muslim country of the world, due to its past imperial history and ongoing achievement in science, technology and industrial know how.

 

[Kompromat]

Mate thats why I said () ." Nor we or them want Turkey in. "

As Turks, rather than a union, we see EU more like a vision, an objective to achieve the economy and life standards of Europe. Thats it.

You are thinking on wrong terms.

No union based at least openly on religion will succeed. Nor will those based on race, simply because race is a bogus concept.

For our region, since Turkey isn't very far from Pakistan, the best option is to build a union on 'Economic Interests'.

ECO has great potential because it is physically connected and has everything, every resource needed to make it fully functional.

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

It is precisely what i stated. A Christian union, though not formally governed by Christianity since Christianity doesn't have a governance system. Entry of non Christian states is barred.

Is the European Union a ‘Christian club’? | euronews, u talk
BBC NEWS | Europe | Turkey entry 'would destroy EU'

From the first article:

“We know that in reality, in the European constitutional treaty there are no religious references, so it’s not a question with any validity in European law. But it’s a question to be asked of EU members at the national level, and of public opinion in these countries. We see in surveys today, notably the latest Eurobarometers, that only 30% of Europeans are in favour of enlargement to include Turkey.

“That doesn’t stop most of the governments of the EU from being in favour of Turkish membership, and that’s a very interesting difference to analyse politically. We really only have one member state objecting head-on to Turkish adhesion, and that’s France. Germany’s position is still very ambiguous. Austria is also against the adhesion, and then, more globally, there are other member states that are in favour, and some of them defend it seriously, notably the countries of the eastern Mediterranean.

Looks to me like it's more of a political problem with France than the EU, the second article pretty much proves it. Turkey is part of Europe just as much it is part of the Middle East.

 

[chhota bheem]

It doesn't need to be in public for there to be an Islamic bloc. RCD and cooperation between Muslim states during '60s and '70s was done by secular and progressive governments.

The headlines itself says ISLAMIC union.
The reason OIC dsnt have influence in the world is because its based on religion.
How different will be this union from OIC.its the same countries already under OIC.

 

[rockstar08]

not possible in upcoming 2-3 decades .....
and if our fairy tales stories are true ... than wait and Enjoy the show ...
for most of peoples religion is responsible for the destruction of World peace , and this is also a fact that in future , only religion will be providing the peace for the entire humanity ...

 

[shuntmaster]

Its not just religious figures many French and German heads of states expressed this sentiment. And the the feeling is still quite wide spread among EU population, may be it will change in the future:

We Muslims of the world wish Turkey well and hope that they are accepted in EU, but if they are not accepted then that is fine too, as they have many other options, like ECO and D-8 etc. With or without membership in EU, Turkey will remain the leading Muslim country of the world, due to its past imperial history and ongoing achievement in science, technology and industrial know how.

Europeans view Turkey as culturally more middle-eastern than European.

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

Its not just religious figures many French and German heads of states expressed this sentiment. And the the feeling is still quite wide spread among EU population, may be it will change in the future:

We Muslims of the world wish Turkey well and hope that they are accepted in EU, but if they are not accepted then that is fine too, as they have many other options, like ECO and D-8 etc. With or without membership in EU, Turkey will remain the leading Muslim country of the world, due to its past imperial history and ongoing achievement in science, technology and industrial know how.

Still that's just two states out of four not including Turkey, not only that but that isn't even all the EU states. There are 28 states in the EU and Turkey could make it's own union with those states that don't oppose.

 

[Kompromat]

From the first article:

“We know that in reality, in the European constitutional treaty there are no religious references, so it’s not a question with any validity in European law. But it’s a question to be asked of EU members at the national level, and of public opinion in these countries. We see in surveys today, notably the latest Eurobarometers, that only 30% of Europeans are in favour of enlargement to include Turkey.

“That doesn’t stop most of the governments of the EU from being in favour of Turkish membership, and that’s a very interesting difference to analyse politically. We really only have one member state objecting head-on to Turkish adhesion, and that’s France. Germany’s position is still very ambiguous. Austria is also against the adhesion, and then, more globally, there are other member states that are in favour, and some of them defend it seriously, notably the countries of the eastern Mediterranean.

Looks to me like it's more of a political problem with France than the EU, the second article pretty much proves it. Turkey is part of Europe just as much it is part of the Middle East.

I specified earlier that EU is not run by Christianity but is a club of Christian countries.

Even the US constitution clearly states that the US is not built on Christianity, even though we all know how big of a role Christianity has in the US.

 

[Neptune]

You are thinking on wrong terms.

No union based at least openly on religion will succeed. Nor will those based on race, simply because race is a bogus concept.

For our region, since Turkey isn't very far from Pakistan, the best option is to build a union on 'Economic Interests'.

ECO has great potential because it is physically connected and has everything, every resource needed to make it fully functional.

I have no problem with ECO as long as it unites nations under their interests rather than religion.

Religion yes. But Turkic Union either is as focused as race to economical wise. Natural resources, manpower. ..etc.

Both things are separate from each other. Let's hope when the time comes for both, we shall have true leaders ruling our countries.

[Ohh sh.it, I terribly fail when the talking comes to economy]

 

[Hiptullha]

The headlines itself says ISLAMIC union.
The reason OIC dsnt have influence in the world is because its based on religion.
How different will be this union from OIC.its the same countries already under OIC.

Because the countries in OIC are toothless and simply servants of greater countries.

 

[Kompromat]

I have no problem with ECO as long as it unites nations under their interests rather than religion.

Religion yes. But Turkic Union either is as focused as race to economical wise. Natural resources, manpower. ..etc.

Both things are separate from each other. Let's hope when the time comes for both, we shall have true leaders ruling our countries.

[Ohh sh.it, I terribly fail when the talking comes to economy]

ECO's sole goal is economic integration of the member states. I believe it has a very strong chance of success should all countries commit to it entirely.

 

[shuntmaster]

If there ever will be an Islamic union, it would be quite formidable and to "gang up" on it, the two major powers right now would need to unite together and separate differences. And what makes you think a union would not try to find cordial relations with its' neighbors and potential rivals?

Even if all the Muslim countries unite, it will still be economically, demographically & militarily weaker than India-China-Russia combine.