Only Saudi Arabia asks for Pakistani help to train troops, Egypt also provides training to a large number of Arab and friendly nations which includes Saudi Arabia and Pakistan (Pakistani students passed out of the Egyptian Staff College this year). Joint exercises and training improves interoprability and understanding between forces, it is not really a measure of who is or who isn't better, for instance US SF recieve training from many other SF units around the world (most notably Israel) but does that mean the US SF aren't the best equipped, trained, and financed on the planet?
Just because you aren't aware of the respective nations defence industries doesn't mean they don't exist!
Egypt for instance produces everything from bullets to tanks to trainer aircraft, and soon Corvettes (Gowind) and later Frigates with Chinese cooperation. The Arab Organisation for Industrilisation makes an export revenue per annum of around $1B while serving the needs of the Egyptian Armed Forces first and foremost. Although it has stagnated after the death of Field Marshal AbuGhazzallah to a large extent cooperation with the UAE which has a small but incredibly good defence industry may see its revival.
The Saudis are rapidly improving their defence industry, into perhaps the best industry in the Middle East, with licensed assembly of the Typhoon, production of parts and electronics for the F-15SA and the capability to produce its own EW and targetting pods SA is turning into a powerhouse, that is even before considering its expenditure on R&D.
While arguably no where near as strong as the Pakistani defence industry, they certainly don't "have no defence industry".
Navies that are rapidly modernising and adding potent platforms, for instance Egypt procured 4 Ambassedor MKIII FMC from the states, will produce 3 Gowind Corvettes in Egypt (one will be produced in France), a deal for 1-2 FREMM is basically done, and 2 latest Type 209 subs will be inducted in 2016 (with an option for two more) to replace the obsolete improved Sino-Romeo class subs.
As for the Saudis, they are going ahead with a massive expansion of their Navy by spending a lot of money on R&D and licensed production. With its plans to buy around 6 FREMMs and littoral combat ships (or even Burke Class destroyers) the future of the Saudi Navy looks bright, although what its doing about subs is still up in the air. A new contract to build a plethora of smaller coastal patrol boats and ships is also promising.
In essence what you have here is two navies that are modernising and growing while the PN is stagnating, proof of that is wanting to go for OHPs as a stop gap.
The BVRs argument is again flawed, the Mica IR on the M2K and the AIM-7M/P are beyond visual range missiles, the latter however lacks the modern active radar of the AMRAAM. Either way, the acquisition of Russian fighters Mig-29/35 will provide the EAF with the R-77 and the acquisition of the Rafale will provide the EAF with the radar guided Mica and in the future the MBDA Meteor. So however effective you think this (f;awed) argument is, it will be a thing of a past (and in less than a year).
What is with the butthurt over a meaningless list? I know you're here to propagate the bigoted idea 'that Arabs can't fight' (even though there is plenty of evidence that states otherwise) but do you have to be so ignorant and dickish about it, so Egypt came up on top, big deal!
