The Islamic Golden Age

[Kompromat]

So Abu Rayhan Biruni and Avicenna must be hallucinating when they were Criticizing Al-razi for his religious Beliefs .

Al-Razi's religious and philosophical views were later criticized by Persian Islamic philosophers such as Abu Rayhan Biruni and Avicenna in the early 11th century. Biruni in particular wrote a short Risala treatise dealing with al-Razi, criticizing him for his sympathy with Manichaeism, his Hermetical writings, his religious and philosophical views,for refusing to mathematize physics, and his active opposition to mathematics. Avicenna, who was himself a physician and philosopher, also criticized al-Razi. During a debate with Biruni, Avicenna stated:

Or from Muhammad ibn Zakariyyab al-Razi, who meddles in metaphysics and exceeds his competence. He should have remained confined to surgery and to urine and stool testing—indeed he exposed himself and showed his ignorance in these matters.

Scholars criticize each other to ignite debates even after those writers are dead, it has been part of the scholarly culture for centuries. If you know anything about PhDs these days, too they go by "peer review" process which is a fancy name for finding flaws and criticism in someone else's work. Iqbal was also criticized and even fatwas were issued against him after he wrote Shikwa'h Allama Iqbal Poetry

Then he wrote "Jawab-e-Shikwa'h" Allama Iqbal Poetry and everyone was shut but there were still people, criticizing him.

In Islamic jurisprudence, no one has the right to tag other Muslims as Non Muslims until they renounce the basic tenants of Islam, which never was the case with these men even with all of the propaganda around done by Ismael right wing goons and others.

 

[Cherokee]

Scholars criticize each other to ignite debates even after those writers are dead, it has been part of the scholarly culture for centuries. If you know anything about PhDs these days, too they go by "peer review" process which is a fancy name for finding flaws and criticism in someone else's work. Iqbal was also criticized and even fatwas were issued against him after he wrote Shikwa'h Allama Iqbal Poetry

Then he wrote "Jawab-e-Shikwa'h" Allama Iqbal Poetry and everyone was shut but there were still people, criticizing him.

In Islamic jurisprudence, no one has the right to tag other Muslims as Non Muslims until they renounce the basic tenants of Islam, which never was the case with these men even with all of the propaganda around done by Ismael right wing goons and others.

Give me time to Research .i will reply to it soon . I can quote Hundreds of blog but you will rubbish them , so i will come up with scholarly research done on al razi

 

[KingMamba]

Give me time to Research .i will reply to it soon . I can quote Hundreds of blog but you will rubbish them , so i will come up with scholarly research done on al razi

You are doing an ad hominem attack on a persons faith when he is not here to defend himself. Do not reply soon in fact do not reply at all, if you must criticize something criticize his works or publications.

 

[Kompromat]

Enough With religious and "genealogy" debates. More off-topics--will draw infractions.

Thanks

 

[KingMamba]

@Aeronaut kindly close this thread, there is not enough maturity on this forum for these kinds of threads.

 

[Cherokee]

You are doing an ad hominem attack on a persons faith when he is not here to defend himself. Do not reply soon in fact do not reply at all, if you must criticize something criticize his works or publications.

You are Miserably Wrong . The whole issue is a Quote by HIM which Aeronaut is Denying was not his Quote but many people believe it was HIS . So better Understand the "bone of contention" before commenting .

 

[KingMamba]

You are Miserably Wrong . The whole issue is a Quote by HIM which Aeronaut is Denying was not his Quote but many people believe it was HIS . So better Understand the "bone of contention" before commenting .

The contention is clear, the faith does not matter because he is not of this world any longer. He however was a part of the Islamic Empire when historians attribute his works and the works of many others to the "Golden age" as some put it. Like I said even Jews and Christians contributed and knowledge was widespread during this time regardless of religion of said person.

 

[Kompromat]

@Aeronaut kindly close this thread, there is not enough maturity on this forum for these kinds of threads.

If OP or other posters do not keep it upto date i will shut it. For now, it remains open.

Thanks

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Started and Ended with Abbasid Caliphate and When too many people started following Gazali and Mongol Sacking of Baghdad .

If a Al-razi or Avicenna is born in Today's Islamic World they will be Incarcerated long before they would have been able to do these Scientific Discoveries because of their opinions and Beliefs .

His name is Bu Ali Sena not Avicenna, the Europeans have twisted his name n make it sound like he was european or something n same goes for Jabbir bin hayyan who is the father of chemistry they call him Gabber

 

[Cherokee]

The contention is clear, the faith does not matter because he is not of this world any longer. He however was a part of the Islamic Empire when historians attribute his works and the works of many others to the "Golden age" as some put it. Like I said even Jews and Christians contributed and knowledge was widespread during this time regardless of religion of said person.

You Really Don't Understand What the thing is . Nobody is questioning "Golden Age of islam" . This whole Excersie is to make Mullah Brigade Believe people and civilizations THRIVE when nothing is above Question and when you start Lobbing Gag orders Decline starts . Is 800 years not enough to help you understand this . There was not any Islamic Culture and Civilization like Abbasid Caliphate and the way things are going there will not be one anytime soon .

His name is Bu Ali Sena not Avicenna, the Europeans have twisted his name n make it sound like he was european or something n same goes for Jabbir bin hayyan who is the father of chemistry they call him Gabber

There is Nothing in Name . People know about him and where he is from so Don't Worry nobody will steal if from YOU.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Al Razi was not a Muslim, probably an atheist.

Omar Khayyam is also contended to be a Diest. He believed in God but didn't think it important to follow Islamic code.

R u mad or something who tell u that Sh**t

 

[KingMamba]

what is copyright?its our history,our culture and people like you are trying to steal that.
most of them was Persian.and yes when it comes to science im racist to every people in ME.but answer my question.Islam was in nowdays saudi arabia and other muslim countris but why the most scientists were from Persia?isnt there a difference?

Persian nationalism at its finest, next time you count your money remember you are stealing Indian culture alright??? This tit for tat does nothing for anybody.

You Really Don't Understand What the thing is . Nobody is questioning "Golden Age of islam" . This whole Excersie is to make Mullah Brigade Believe people and civilizations THRIVE when nothing is above Question and when you start Lobbing Gag orders Decline starts . Is 800 years not enough to help you understand this . There was not any Islamic Culture and Civilization like Abbasid Caliphate and the way things are going there will not be one anytime soon .

This I agree with and have said as much in an earlier post. The only shame is that nobody is willing to expand on their works.

 

[Audio]

You guys know coffee originates from Yemen?
in a form as we know it today, i dont know if they prepared it before according to some other recipes.

 

[KingMamba]

You guys know coffee originates from Yemen?
in a form as we know it today, i dont know if they prepared it before according to some other recipes.

I did not know that. Who invented tea?? Was it the Chinese or the Brits??

 

[kollang]

Persian nationalism at its finest, next time you count your money remember you are stealing Indian culture alright??? This tit for tat does nothing for anybody.



This I agree with and have said as much in an earlier post. The only shame is that nobody is willing to expand on their works.

what???

so the most scientists at that so called Islamic golden age werent persian do you mean?