The History Of How Cows Became 'Sacred' To Hindus Is Not That Holy And It Will Blow You Away

[Raj Guru]

Are u a Shaivite ?

I am a Brahmin too .

hardcore one

Mahadev Har. Brother

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

hardcore one

Mahadev Har. Brother

Har Har MahaDev
Traditionally we are Shaivite . We worship Shiv and Shakti .
I personally worship or believe in Shiv and Shakti on the level of Para Brahm .

 

[Koovie]

He does have a valid point they will continue to die its not like religious fanatics are killing them , Religious matters are different to these issues no point linking them.

No, you missed my point. There are so many retards in India who whine about their religions and fantasies and try to mix their beliefs into politics, while you wont even see them investing 1 % of their energy into the REAL WORLD issues which actually matter:

Like sanitation, health care, traffic safety etc etc etc... The issues which make India a 3rd world nation where thousands still die due to simple diseases, malnutrition, needless accidents etc etc etc...

But as long as they have ridiculous cow laws or a gigantic 10 crore church next to a road without traffic lights everything is fine and they can continue living in their delusions

 

[Spring Onion]

LOL. We have evolved from not wearing clothes to wearing them today. People progress. This is natural. Just that we stayed naked and had no society at one point of time does not mean we have to go back to those days. This is assuming that beef was a part of Dharma. Which it never was. But that is besides the point.

wrong example as ironically the world and your bollywood is fighting for nakedness .

 

[Ragnarok connection]

The widely accepted belief in this world is that the Brahmins have been Vegetarians. But, now, a few researches say that Brahmins were beef eaters in ancient times. Hindu organizations condemn it saying that it’s not true. Well, What if Ancient Brahmins Were Perfect Beef Eaters? Why they ate and why they shunned? A spotlight on that would unleash many facts that speak about our background. Many know that it’s accepted for Brahmins in Bengal and Orissa to eat fish, calling it ‘Jala Pushpam’.

History clearly reveals that Brahmins were Non Vegetarians and perfect beef eaters. The respective animal sacrifice followed by Aswamedha and Gomedha Yagas is not merely for ‘bali’ sake but also for naivedyam (offering to divine power) and prasadam (holy food).

@fakhre mirpur
Here is a curtain raiser that starts with a quote from a former Brahmin President of India.

Sarvepalli Radhakrishna, in his ‘Religion and Society’ said,“In ancient times meat was used by the Brahmins also. The old Vedic religion included the sacrifices of five kinds of animals: goats, sheep, cows, bulls and horses. Under the influence of Buddhism, Jainism and Viashnavism, the practice became discredited. Manu and Yagnavalkya impose so many restrictions about meat eating that they discourage it”.

Bhagavadgeetha says,“Chaturvarnyam maya sristam Guna Karma Vibhagasah”, means the Lord says,‘I have formed the four classes basing on the traits and duties’-

As an extension to this, Manu says,“Brahmanah Kshatriyo Vaisyas trayo varna dvijatayah- Chaturtha ekajatis sudro nasti tu panchamah…”, which means,“Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vysya and Sudra are the four classes and there’s no fifth class”. This confirms that there was no so-called fifth class as per Hindu Dharma. But without the concept of fifth-class theory, Manu would not have mentioned about it in his text. A few consequences made a set of people fall in the name of ‘5th class’. What are those consequences that made BrahminsVegetarians and formed ‘5th class’ for a set of other people?

In very ancient India- Brahmins, Kshatriyas and Madigas were the three prominent castes in Hinduism. Yagas with animal sacrifice were widely performed in those days and hence these three castes turned prominent.Brahmins with hymns, Kshatriyas with financial muscle and Madigas with their skill of skinning out the flesh of an animal- turned the key people in religion. Other community people were mere spectators of the yaga with no big place to participate in it. The animal that was slaughtered was regarded ‘holy food’. That used to be cooked and distributed for all.

With these regular activities the three castes used to enjoy same standard of social status, like that of today’s ‘Forward Castes’. The food habits of these communities were also common and hence there was no line drawn between them. The people among the communities also used to get united with marriages. Even mythology says that Vasista, the Brahmin Rishi marriedArundhati, an outcast girl. Similarly Goutama, the Brahmin Rishi married Ahalya, another lowest caste girl. All that happened in that ancient time.

Restrictions in Vedic Literature
In a hymn of the RgVeda it is said that “Indra will eat thy bulls.”[2] In another hymn of the RgVeda[3] Agni is styled Uksanna and Vasanna i.e.“eater of bullsand barren cows.” Not only for the purpose of sacrifices but for food also, the bovine species were killed in regular slaughter-houses and this is evident from another hymn of the RgVeda.[4] Again, it is suggested in the RgVeda that the cow was cut up with a sword or axe.[5] It is interesting to note in this context that the modern Hindu practice of Jhatka-bali, that is, severing the head of the animal at one stroke, had not yet come into fashion. There are ample evidences how the Rgvedic people were fond of beef-eating. Even in funeral ceremony beef-eating was considered an essential part.[6]

Interestingly enough in the same Veda the cow is sometimes considered inviolable as indicated by her designation aghnya (‘not to be slain’) which occurs sixteen times in the entire RgVeda,[7] as opposed to three instances of aghnya[8](masculine). But this fact cannot be regarded as showing that beef-eating was condemned in the Rgvedic period. In this connection, we should point out that the Sanskrit word used for the sacrificial cow is Vasa (i.e.‘sterile cow’) and a milch cow was seldom sacrificed.[9] It is only in this way that one can explain the lavish praise bestowed on the cow in the RgVeda where she is described in a number of hymns as “the mother of Rudras, the daughter of the vasus, the sister of Adityas, and the centre of nectar.”[10]

I think you have got a wrong idea about this, Hinduism is not like Islam; there is no death for apostasy and you can be an atheist and Hindu at the same time.
There are no fixed set of rules which have to be followed, or one single text which tells us right from wrong (there are so many that even a lifetime isn't enough to research them thoroughly).
Now coming back to beef, I am an Hindu atheist brahmin, I eat beef, pork, mutton, and all kinds of seafood as do all my cousins, so do I become less of a Hindu if some people who act as if they represent Hindus in our country tell us otherwise? No, and f(_)ck all these people who tell us right from wrong.
I just hope that these extremists stop imposing their views on others and let them live their lives peacefully...the Hindu way.

 

[Zibago]

The thread source is a crap and a clear misunderstanding of the texts.
Do googling to understand the real interpretation of the texts.



Majority's feelings in India have to be respected.
Will Pakistanis tolerate someone mass butchering Pigs in their country ?

Yeah we have no issues with pigs being culled they are a nuisance anyway

Many animal species facing extinction - thenews.com.pk

Islam is a complete code of life which is why everywhere it spreads, the land turns into a desert.

Desertification in Pakistan - The Express Tribune

The paltry forest cover reduced to 2% of the total landmass because you guys are so environmentally friendly and have lives so in harmony with nature.

Earthly matters: Can Pakistan’s forests be saved? - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

Bad pagan Hindus with a population of 1.3 billion still increasing forest cover in their land to 24% of the total landmass and going towards 33% in a decade.

For those who try to say Hindus do not have religious significance for cows, this is the image of cows all Hindus grew up with.

The Sacredness of the Holy Cow

This is how i and most omnivores see it why impose your view on them?

 

[raktaka]

No, you missed my point. There are so many retards in India who whine about their religions and fantasies and try to mix their beliefs into politics, while you wont even see them investing 1 % of their energy into the REAL WORLD issues which actually matter:

Like sanitation, health care, traffic safety etc etc etc... The issues which make India a 3rd world nation where thousands still die due to simple diseases, malnutrition, needless accidents etc etc etc...

But as long as they have ridiculous cow laws or a gigantic 10 crore church next to a road without traffic lights everything is fine and they can continue living in their delusions

LOL....... so the problems in India like diseases, malnutrition, needless accidents are due to Cow Laws ?


I understand you are a bigot and you are stupid, but what is the need to shout that out to the world ?


BTW, the use of the terminology "3rd world" is a racist term. It only highlights your bigotry and now your Racism. There is only ONE world.

 

[scionoftheindus]

Old theory..I know about this theory when I was still in my chaddis.

 

[raktaka]

I pity your world view....

Do you know the difference between a Bigot and a normal Indian ?

When kerala Bigots held "beef party", Muslims in UP held "Milk Party"

https://twitter.com/x/status/655355852061184001

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At least I have a view, you are Blind............ from your Hate.

 

[Samudra Manthan]

This is an image for a Muslim

Forces of light and darkness have always co-existed. We represent the light protective force and you guys the dark destructive force. So it has been and so it will be always. You will always lift your arms to destroy and cause mayhem, we will always bring peace to the world.

 

[Hindustani78]

This is an image for a Muslim

Its not Indian Breed . So whats the point ?

Indian Government is working to expand the dairy sector as well as working to increase energy outputs.


The states where cow slaughter is legal in India | The Indian Express
By: Express News Service | Updated: October 8, 2015 9:00 am


Jail terms 10 yrs for cow slaughter in Haryana, Jammu and Kashmir, Jharkhand and Rajasthan. Punishment up to varying terms in jail in other states

States where cow slaughter is legal:

13) Kerala
No restrictions.

23) West Bengal
No restrictions.

16, 18) Other Northeast
No ban in Arunachal, Mizoram, Meghalaya, Nagaland, Tripura, Sikkim. In Manipur, Maharaja in 1939 decreed prosecution for cow slaughter, but beef consumed widely.

States marked red doesn’t allow slaughter of cows.
States where cow slaughter is banned:

1) Andhra Pradesh & Telangana
Slaughter of cows, calves prohibited. Bulls, bullocks can be killed against “fit-for-slaughter” certificate, issued if animals can no longer be used for breeding; draught/agricultural operations. Violators face 6 months jail and/or Rs 1,000 fine.

2) Assam
Cow slaughter banned except on issue of ‘fit-for-slaughter’ certificate, at designated places.

3) Bihar
Slaughter of cows, calves banned; of bulls, bullocks older than 15 years allowed. Violators face 6 months’ jail and/or Rs 1,000 fine.

4) Chandigarh
Killing a cow, storing/serving/eating beef banned; eating meat of buffalo, bullock, ox also banned.


5) Chhattisgarh
Slaughter of cow, buffalo, bull, bullock, calf, and possession of their meat banned. Transport, export to other states for slaughter also banned; attracts same punishment of 7 years’ jail, fine up to Rs 50,000.

6) Delhi
Slaughter of “agricultural cattle” — cow, calf, bull, bullock — and “possession of [their] flesh”, even if they are killed outside Delhi, banned. Buffaloes are not covered.

7) Gujarat
Slaughter of cow, calf, bull and bullock; transport, sale of their meat banned. Punishment: Rs 50,000 fine, up to 7 years’ jail. Ban does not include buffaloes.

8) Haryana
As per a 2015 law, “cow”, which includes bull, bullock, ox, heifer, calf, and disabled/diseased/barren cows, can’t be killed. Punishment: 3-10 years jail, fine up to Rs 1 lakh. Sale of canned beef and beef products, and export of cows for slaughter banned.

9) Himachal Pradesh
Slaughter of all bovines punishable by 5 years’ jail. Killing allowed in the interest of research, or if animal has contagious disease.

10) Jammu & Kashmir
Slaughter of cow and its progeny punishable by up to 10 years’ jail. Possession of “flesh of any [of these] slaughtered animal(s)” punishable by a year; killing of “he or she buffalo” punishable with fine five times the animal’s price.

11) Jharkhand
Slaughter of cows and oxen; possession, consumption of their meat, banned. Violators face up to 10 years’ jail and/or Rs 10,000 fine.

12) Karnataka
Cows can be slaughtered if old or diseased. Possession not a crime. Bill proposed by BJP in 2010 made slaughter punishable by 7 years’ jail and Rs 1 lakh fine, but it did not become law.

14) Madhya Pradesh
Slaughter of cow, progeny banned. Penalty raised to 7 years’ jail in 2012, burden of proof on accused. Buffaloes can be killed.

15) Maharashtra
Slaughter, consumption of meat of cow, bull, bullock banned since March 2015 after revision of existing law. 5 years’ jail and/or Rs 10,000 fine. Slaughter of buffaloes allowed.

Mizoram
No restrictions.

17) Odisha
2 years’ jail, Rs 1,000 fine for cow slaughter. Old bulls, bullocks can be killed on fit-for-slaughter certificate; cow if it suffers from contagious disease.

19) Punjab
“Beef” doesn’t include imported beef; “cow” includes bulls, bullocks, oxen, heifer, calves. Slaughter allowed for export, with government permit.

20) Rajasthan
Slaughter of “cow, calf, heifer, bull or bullock” prohibited; possession, transport of their flesh prohibited. 10 years’ imprisonment and/or Rs 10,000 fine.

21) Tamil Nadu
Cow, calf slaughter banned; up to 3 years’ jail and/or Rs 1,000 fine. Beef consumption and slaughter of economically worthless animals allowed.

22) Uttar Pradesh
Slaughter of cow, bullock, ox banned. Can’t store or eat beef. 7 years’ jail and/or Rs 10,000 fine. Can import in sealed containers, to be served to foreigners. Buffaloes can be killed.

* Jail terms 10 yrs for cow slaughter in Haryana, Jammu and Kashmir, Jharkhand and Rajasthan. Punishment up to varying terms in jail in other states.

* Hefty fine 1 lakh in Haryana, and Rs 50,000 in Chhattisgarh and Gujarat. Range of smaller fines for slaughter and related crimes in other states.

 

[Koovie]

Do you know the difference between a Bigot and a normal Indian ?

When kerala Bigots held "beef party", Muslims in UP held "Milk Party"

https://twitter.com/x/status/655355852061184001

]


At least I have a view, you are Blind............ from your Hate.

See thats your problem, your simple black and white world view is a great example of your narrowmindednes.

 

[Hindustani78]

According to 2014 Article

India has the maximum number of cows and buffalos in dairy production: about 300 million. It is also the global leader in milk production: about 135 million tonnes a year. Neither figure impresses Trevor Tomkins of the US-based Venture Dairy, an early-stage impact investing firm focused on dairying in developing countries.

"India produces that quantity of milk from far too many cows," he says. The efficiency of the Indian dairying sector is abysmally low. The best- run farms in the world produce 1.6 kg of milk for every kg of feed, explains Tomkins; in India it's less than a kg.

In India, dairying is predominantly unorganised and the sector is dependent on rural households for supplies; over 70 million of 147 million households in India depend on dairy for their livelihood. They have been largely left to their devices and they continue to milk animals that produce around 3 litres a day.

 

[Koovie]

LOL....... so the problems in India like diseases, malnutrition, needless accidents are due to Cow Laws ?

Go back to school and learn basic English first. I understand you your intellect is quite low, but you just surprised me again.
FYI:
Its about misplaced priorities, not about blaming cow laws for social problems you moron.

Oh, and the term 3rd world:
"The term Third World was originally coined in times of the Cold War to distinguish those nations that are neither aligned with the West (NATO) nor with the East, the Communist bloc. Today the term is often used to describe the developing countries of Africa, Asia, Latin America and Oceania."


You are truly the most stupid person here Amazing how ill educated people with an Internet connection can be, considering that they have the knowledge of all of humanity at their disposal

 

[Hindustani78]

Punjab State

Department plays an important role in the economy of the state. The net contribution in the State Gross Domestic Product (GDP) is 13%.

Telangana State
About 29 lakh families in Telangana State are engaged in livestock sector for their livelihood. The value of livestock produce is estimated to be Rs. 12403 crores at current prices and the livestock sector contributes 4.86% to GSDP


INDIA - The country's dairy sector will grow 15.6 per cent during the 2015-16 financial year, says Mumbai based rating and research firm, India Ratings & Research Pvt Limited (Ind-Ra), citing higher demand for dairy products.


The agency said that dairy industry will grow to $89 billion in 2015-16 fiscal year from $48 billion recorded in fiscal year 2012-13. The milk production is expected to increase to 151 million tonnes by 2015-16 fiscal year from 138 million tonnes in 2013-14 fiscal year.

The government is striving to expand the milk production to 180-200 million tonnes by 2021-22 fiscal year to meet the growing demand and address the nutritional requirement of country.

Even though global milk and dairy product prices in 2014 have fallen, the domestic prices have been firm.

- See more at: Indian Dairy Sector to Grow by 15.6 Per Cent in Next Financial Year - The Cattle Site