The future of the Pakistani Diaspora and cultural and political links with the motherland

[TSA321]

As your table show we Pakistani's have the highest house buying % in UK.

It's only for those aged 25-34 but the point still definitely stands. And this is despite the fact most Pakistani women in the UK historically don't work.

British Pakistanis with one gender working have achieved a higher home ownership rate than the other groups who have both genders working

 

[Indus Pakistan]

British Pakistanis with one gender working have achieved a higher home ownership rate than the other groups who have both genders working

Good point.

 

[Yankee-stani]

It's good to hear your perspective.
I think as a community, steeped as we are in village tradition and culture, we are afraid of what the future holds for our coming generations as regards culture and values.
What we are not willing to contemplate is that values and culture changes with time, geography, education, environmental influences.
I often think about when my father and his generation decided to emigrate to the UK what would have been crossing their mind?
All they were thinking of was £s. They never even considered the possibility of cultural change. They weren't equipped mentally or educationally to consider it. It never crossed their minds.
To be fair to a lot of them, most only wanted to come over here, earn enough money to set themselves up in Pakistan and live their lives out there. Basically how the Saudi Arabia model works. However, once here, the lure of a better living environment caused them to forget this and they started to send to Pakistan for wives and children to join them. As their children started to grow up they began to feel the challenges of bringing up children in a Western society while trying to preserve Eastern culture.
They battled the best they could but it was always going to be a losing battle.
To combat this they started to import spouses for their children from Pakistan, this worked for a while but gradually it started to cause unhappy marriages and downright rejection of the parents wishes as the culture gap became wider. I have seen the culture of our young people change to where they are marrying partners of their choice, albeit other Muslims but I can see a change coming here as well where young people are wanting to marry other nationalities. It can only be a matter of time. Realistically, it's to be expected.
In the past many first generation parents decided to relocate their families back to Pakistan. The result of which was that they went back, spent their money, couldn't adjust to the culture/ got fleeced by relatives, came back, still here.
We need to accept the reality of our situation. The more we force our children to live culturally schizophrenic lives the harder for them it'll be before the inevitable happens

I am grateful to hear your side of things from across the Atlantic, yes I agree we are making mistakes as a community in tackling integration,religion,culture and patriotism in the whole nine yards, now my father left Pakistan in 1976 and unlike most he had a degree and well paying job could have stayed being a engineer there but my dad wanted to travel around and not be constrained at first he moved to West Africa primarily Liberia when crapfest and coup happen in the late 70s forced to flee bounced around Europe then voila came to America afterwards neverthless he had to bust balls here to get somewhere and then now is old and longs for Pakistan bought a home a decade ago there again we barley use it when we go there it sits there sadly getting dust a kind neighbor and my aunt takes care but as the winds of time have gone tragic things have happen my uncle his brother just passed a few months back in Wah Cantt, just today my fathers step-mom passed also today and to be frankly honest as much I feel bad due to language barrier and cultural differences could not relate as much younger relatives I get along with yes but as we grew up we went different ways we have our own local social groups yeah there is WhatsApp, Skype etc now but mood is usually when its Eid or some holiday,as for my connections to Pakistan I want to preserve what I have but at the same time I am releastic it wont be as much as what my father had it unless Pakistan really fixes itself and becomes a self confident nation on its own I think the links with the diaspora will wither or just be hazy

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

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If right wing politics amongst the White English continues to increase then young Pakistanis will psychologically be forced to become nationalistic Pakistanis whether they want to or not.

No matter what you do, what you achieve you cant truly be native can you?

You'd still be asked “where are you from”.

Look at the mexicans, been in america since it was founded.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

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No matter what you do, what you achieve you cant truly be native can you?

You'd still be asked “where are you from”.

Look at the mexicans, been in america since it was founded.

EXACTLY! Some Mexicans are white too and the real americans never except them even after having been in america for over 400 years.

Too be honest, I have no intention of wanting to be accepted by White people or gaining their approval. I'm happy living as a law abiding citizen and enjoying a good quality of life. That's the only reason our families came to the UK. Nothing more.

 

[Old School]

Islamic minded Pakistani diaspora will always have more feeling for the motherland than any other. They know about their ancestors' sacrifice for the foundation of this Muslim homeland. That can not be said about the secular and atheist diaspora, though. Some are even more radical atheist than the Caucasians. Anyone, who wants to separate Islam from Pakistan, is going to have a big conflict with the general population of Pakistan for sure. Usually , they preach their atheism only online.

 

[El Sidd]

Maybe one should ask Pirouz Hoodboy this question.

He is an Indian living in Pakistan.