harish
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Dear Xeric, the 'wish of the Kashmir people' is not as important here as the wish of 1.5 billion people of both our countries, who are and have been suffering for over 6 decades. Suffering with a legacy foisted on us by the British as their parting gift before they left after 300 years of plunder, keeping the doors open for further milking of their favorite cash cow, till the reality of post-war depression set in, just as did the sun on their empire.
After all please appreciate, that since both Pakistan and India agree that an independent Kashmir identity is not a possibility, then it stands to reason that the only two players involved here as independent standalone sovereign entities are India and Pakistan. And India and Pakistan both hold parts of what some would collectively term Kashmir, just as other would collectively loosely term adjoining parts of Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan as Balochistan (or Baluchistan depending on the country in question). So since its the question that needs to be deliberated upon and decided between India and Pakistan, and what is at stake is the lives of 1.5 billion people of India and Pakistan, the decision needs to be collectively taken by all the citizens of both countries. Once that decision is taken and sealed, the Kashmiris are offered a vote (plebiscite) to decide which nation to be a part of. Hope that makes my point clear.
I have told you a solution which is the only realistic one available to us today. Neither country will be willing to give up one square kilometer of land they hold today. Your solution is plebiscite which is also something I have covered. The choice of nationality will be in the hands of the Kashmiri people. So where is the problem in that? Isn't that what Pakistan has been crying itself hoarse about? We work together to help make the transition easy. If you stick to your stand and we stick to ours, then you can forget about a solution for the next thousand years.
You are wrong in saying that it is we who are losing out under the strain of maintaining a huge armed presence in Kashmir. The land is ours and we are occupying it and preventing entry to you. Simple. Just as you are on what is yours, as well as what you hold of ours. The results of this financial strain on India are no secret brother. A vibrant growing economy moving along at 7+% with the very real possibility of ramping up to over 10% soon, Maoists, dalits, poverty, dearth of toilets, and all. Compare that to your country? The message is clear.
You may continue to stay away from open conflict and train and arm and finance proxies to fight us. They will be an irritant at best for a country of our size and strength. And somewhere down the line you may force our hand in returning the favor. We will still hold Kashmir. And continue to do so. Where is the solution in that? What else can you do? You can either fight us for it with you regular forces, or you can try and turn the tide of international opinion against us. You know the results of both my friend. So come forward and try and find a solution together.
After all please appreciate, that since both Pakistan and India agree that an independent Kashmir identity is not a possibility, then it stands to reason that the only two players involved here as independent standalone sovereign entities are India and Pakistan. And India and Pakistan both hold parts of what some would collectively term Kashmir, just as other would collectively loosely term adjoining parts of Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan as Balochistan (or Baluchistan depending on the country in question). So since its the question that needs to be deliberated upon and decided between India and Pakistan, and what is at stake is the lives of 1.5 billion people of India and Pakistan, the decision needs to be collectively taken by all the citizens of both countries. Once that decision is taken and sealed, the Kashmiris are offered a vote (plebiscite) to decide which nation to be a part of. Hope that makes my point clear.
I have told you a solution which is the only realistic one available to us today. Neither country will be willing to give up one square kilometer of land they hold today. Your solution is plebiscite which is also something I have covered. The choice of nationality will be in the hands of the Kashmiri people. So where is the problem in that? Isn't that what Pakistan has been crying itself hoarse about? We work together to help make the transition easy. If you stick to your stand and we stick to ours, then you can forget about a solution for the next thousand years.
You are wrong in saying that it is we who are losing out under the strain of maintaining a huge armed presence in Kashmir. The land is ours and we are occupying it and preventing entry to you. Simple. Just as you are on what is yours, as well as what you hold of ours. The results of this financial strain on India are no secret brother. A vibrant growing economy moving along at 7+% with the very real possibility of ramping up to over 10% soon, Maoists, dalits, poverty, dearth of toilets, and all. Compare that to your country? The message is clear.
You may continue to stay away from open conflict and train and arm and finance proxies to fight us. They will be an irritant at best for a country of our size and strength. And somewhere down the line you may force our hand in returning the favor. We will still hold Kashmir. And continue to do so. Where is the solution in that? What else can you do? You can either fight us for it with you regular forces, or you can try and turn the tide of international opinion against us. You know the results of both my friend. So come forward and try and find a solution together.
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