Valiant_Soul
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We can do plenty, and that is the only reason why your Generals don't have their evening tea at the Lahore gym-khana. I think that's all I need to say about your superiority complex. As for civilian deaths, you'd do well to research the number of civilians killed by militants over the last year versus those killed by your soldiers, or for that matter, read up on the casualties since 1990 and you'll come crashing off your high horse.
I am not interested in any research on casualties because I know that cannot be documented properly by anyone. The thing that is most significant is the intention to have a united and prosperous India. And we do not need to learn from you what the intentions of our chosen governments are, unlike the intentions of the actual source of power in Pakistan.
"Once they get to it" is laughable, because once they get to it, we'll get to them. They've been "getting to it" since 1947, but all the poor blokes have managed to do is sit around talking about how they will do it. "Dus qadam aur Pakistan khatam" is quite a wet-dream for many. "We'll take back East Bengal, then we'll take back West Punjab" is what Ms. Gandhi claimed after the humiliation at the hands of the Chinese, and we know how well that's been going. But I don't want to get into a boasting match, I have sufficient knowledge of the capabilities of both our Armed Forces to sleep peacefully right beside the Wagah Border. Any keen student of the Armed Forces on either side will let you know that if they are sitting around talking about "the time it will take for them to complete their task", they are wasting your hard earned money. What your soldiers should be doing is working to overturn their image as the laughing-stock of professional Armed Forces.
Again you are mistaking intentions with capabilities. It has never been the intention of India to destroy Pakistan, but as far as defending our boundaries is concerned you know how hardly you have been hit on that front.
You claim that land as if it belongs to you. It's a shame that you have absolutely no respect for the indigenous population nor their hardships at the hands of your armed forces, all you see is your ego.
Of course it legally belongs to us. You must be aware of the Instrument of Accession. That is legality as far as land is concerned.
It is an occupation by its very definition, and no occupation lasts forever. It is unsustainable.
Likewise we can say the same things about Balochistan etc, why do you make yourself a party to this dispute when you do not have the guts to yell for freedom Chinese occupied Kashmir? Hypocrisy!
If you can't be bothered to research even the most basic facts about the current affairs regarding Kashmir, then I feel extremely disappointed at the fact that I've spent many minutes debating with you. It's like you don't even want to learn about Kashmir's issues, you'd just rather spew the same garbage that you've been force fed by your governments for over six decades.
The protests started after a 14-year-old boy died after he was struck in the head by a police tear gas shell as an anti-Indian protest ended last Sunday. The police officer who fired the shell was suspended and police called it "a callous and irresponsible action."
Then on Friday, witnesses said paramilitary soldiers charged at a group of people gathered on a playground and began firing as they fled, killing a 17 year old. Hemant Lohia, a top police officer, confirmed that the boy died from a bullet wound but said details about his death were still under investigation.
Source: washingtonpost.com
From what you have quoted from the article, that should tell you why I asked from the source from your side. Does the article classifies it state-sponsored terrorism or mistake committed by an officer? Read the bold part as well. In the heat of things, these kind of mishaps occur everywhere in India and Kashmir is not exclusive, and you so callous to describe it oppression?
Now that you've made it perfectly clear that you are not interested in conducting even basic research on the subject, I don't see much point in continuing our discussion. You can live in your self-made paradise, while I whole-heartedly support the people being put through your hell.
I so agree that it is no point in discussing this. Let us look to the future because in the next 5-10 years it will be quite apparent to you what blunder you have done and you are doing by poking your nose in issues that should not be of your bother at all. But since you choose to classify people on the basis of religion, I think that is the fate you deserve.
India has no right to willfully alter the demographics of the region because it has no right over the region at all, it is a disputed territory with a majority population that wants nothing to do with India. Also, EjazR didn't answer "why" the government did what it did (because he knows very well why they did it) but spent his time explaining "how". I'm not interested in "how", I'm interested in their objectives. I am glad that the people of Kashmir brought the tyrants to their knees with the uprising, but I'm sad that it cost them at least four innocent lives while doing so (not including the two women found dead weeks before).
He did mentioned both how and why.