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The Future of Kashmir? "Seven" Possible Solutions!

India kabhi kashmir nahin chhodega.

Kyun?

1. Hamare north India kee kai lifeline rivers kasmir se nikalti hain. Jinnah said "Kashmir is Pakistan's jugular". Well, kashmir is our jugular too. Water alone is a reason strategic enough to make us kill or die for kashmir.

2. Hamne jis din kashmir chhoda, us din har tom, dick and harry will raise a shout for a seperate state. India was founded on the very principle of 'unity in diversity'. That principle will be negated and then it'll be impossible for GoI to suppress voices of silly dissent.

3. Kahmiris are themselves divided about what they want. Jammu and Ladakh have no grudges whatsoever. It's only a few people in the valley who have a problem.

4. In modern world big and powerful nations do not permit redrawing of boundaries so easily. USSR case was different. They broke up from inside. Not as a result of any foreign aggression.

SO WHAT's THE SOLUTION?

mujhe sirf ek hee realistic solution dikhta hai,

India apna kashmir rakhega (militarily). Pakistan apna kashmir rakhega (militarily). LoC will be made irrelevant permitting people to people contact just like in a single state. In short, kashmir will be united but under firm control of India and Pakistan.

A few modalities of the arrangement (such as seperate flag, constitution, currency etc.) can be worekd out. The three subjects Defence, Foreign Policy and communication will be controlled by India and Pakistan in their respective parts of the state.

It will be a very complex and detailed solution which will require huge concessions from both India and Pakistan.

And trust me guys India and Pakistan were willing to accept this very solution during talks between Mushy and MMS.

In the end,

India: happy because it controls the water, the land validating the 'unity in diversity' principle

Pakistan: happy because it gives them legitimate control of their part of kashmir in an internationally recognised way. Promised better relations with India, access to Indian market and what not. Just think about the economic opportunity it will bring for Pakistan.

Kashmiris: happy because it will give them the seperate identity they are seeking while getting economic benefits from both India and Pakistan.

Trust me friends, isse zyada kisi bhi party (India, Pakistan or Kashmiris) ko kuch nahin mil sakta.

Yahi ek solution bacha hai. Pasand hai toh accept karo. Nahin pasand.....well.....toh 63 saal se toh hum dekh hee rahe hain...........:angel:

I 100% agree with you.
What about the employment for kashmiri youths? Will they be allowed to work both in India and Pakistan? Pakistan can use this to send some more terrorists to India...
 
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We have no solution of Kashmir but only KASHMIR BANEY GA PAKISTAN

So no compromise over there & no conversation.

Are bhai Gappae marni hai to khul maro..

ISS trah

AMRICA BANEY GA PAKISTAN
MOON BANEY GA PAKISTAN
JUPITAR BANEY GA PAKISTAN

Sharmaya mat karo

But instead of wasting time in these dreams you may also consider these...below

War on terror :usflag:

Getting Economy back on track

Floods...:hitwall:

Infrastucture
 
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let us be practical. india cannot leave an inch of the kashmir and similarly pakistan cannot rest till it gets whole of kashmir. so the problem doesnot have any solution except status quo. no country or group of countries can force India to withdraw from kashmir and similarly no country can force pakistan to abandon kashmir. even war cannot decide as both are nuclear nations. so only option available with both countries is to accept whatever is there in the present situation.
 
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or why not hold a referendum?

are you scared about having your ''hypothesis'' refuted --inevitably as it may be
 
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or why not hold a referendum?

are you scared about having your ''hypothesis'' refuted --inevitably as it may be

Jiski laathi uski bhains.

I cannot put it in a simpler way. Currently India is the one in a position of strength very much unlike Pakistan. Obviously, India will dictate terms. If you want your position to be considered, then become powerful, pose a challenge to us and we will see!
 
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or why not hold a referendum?

are you scared about having your ''hypothesis'' refuted --inevitably as it may be

Jiski laathi uski bhains.

I cannot put it in a simpler way. Currently India is the one in a position of strength very much unlike Pakistan. Obviously, India will dictate terms. If you want your position to be considered, then become powerful, pose a challenge to us and we will see!

As of now, pakistan is in no position whatsoever (either internally or externally) to enforce its will on India.
 
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Jiski laathi uski bhains.

I cannot put it in a simpler way. Currently India is the one in a position of strength very much unlike Pakistan. Obviously, India will dictate terms. If you want your position to be considered, then become powerful, pose a challenge to us and we will see!

likewise! if you feel hindustan is powerful enough to ''re-claim'' Pakistan ''occupied'' Kashmir then what is stopping you?


by the way, the bhains are lashing out against the laathi holders and im enjoying every moment of it
 
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likewise! if you feel hindustan is powerful enough to ''re-claim'' Pakistan ''occupied'' Kashmir then what is stopping you?


by the way, the bhains are lashing out against the laathi holders and im enjoying every moment of it

LOL who says India wants *** back? *** is a bargaining chip. Whenever u raise Indian kashmir, we'll raise Pakistan Occupied Kashmir!

The part of kashmir that is strategically most important is firmly under India's control and isn't going anywhere.

As for the fun part, you are fully entitled to have your views my friend.
 
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A study i found on this : www.peacepolls.org/documents/peacepolls/000648.pdf

I think they have not considered the pak innovative solution of selling kashmir piece by piece to china..
Going by current scenario they might sell the whole thing off to china just to bring chinese in and then we have to deal with china starting next war between india and china.
Already china is showing of its furs on kashmir. Wonder why! I think it is the real plan.
 
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likewise! if you feel hindustan is powerful enough to ''re-claim'' Pakistan ''occupied'' Kashmir then what is stopping you?


by the way, the bhains are lashing out against the laathi holders and im enjoying every moment of it

every thing has it's own time,it's not necessary to waste the ammunition.there r lot of other ways also.india have learnt many things frm u.

by the way, the bhains are lashing out against the laathi holders and im enjoying every moment of it

really,i thought u were with kashmiri separatist.:bunny::bunny:
 
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A study i found on this : www.peacepolls.org/documents/peacepolls/000648.pdf

I think they have not considered the pak innovative solution of selling kashmir piece by piece to china..
Going by current scenario they might sell the whole thing off to china just to bring chinese in and then we have to deal with china starting next war between india and china.
Already china is showing of its furs on kashmir. Wonder why! I think it is the real plan.

This is very very unlikely to happen.

Even if it happens, I don't think it would affect the "status quo".
 
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Jiski laathi uski bhains.

I cannot put it in a simpler way. Currently India is the one in a position of strength very much unlike Pakistan. Obviously, India will dictate terms. If you want your position to be considered, then become powerful, pose a challenge to us and we will see!

So basically you are saying that to hell with refrendum or will of Kashmiri people because at this moment India is in a better position to exploit this issue in their favour ? :undecided:

Why not refrendum ? If you guys are right then what are you scared of ? Where are your democratic values gone now ?

Let the world know that what does Kashmiris want . You guys may be able to opress Kashmiris of their right now, magar kab tak ?
 
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So basically you are saying that to hell with refrendum or will of Kashmiri people because at this moment India is in a better position to exploit this issue in their favour ? :undecided:

Why not refrendum ? If you guys are right then what are you scared of ? Where are your democratic values gone now ?

Let the world know that what does Kashmiris want . You guys may be able to opress Kashmiris of their right now, magar kab tak ?

simple answer is "" india will never give freedom,this is critical region.if it is given freedom.india will loose bcoz of china n pak.india is in best position by now.""
 
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simple answer is "" india will never give freedom,this is critical region.if it is given freedom.india will loose bcoz of china n pak.india is in best position by now.""

so your point is that if refrendum is done then people of Kashmir will go definitely against India and that you guys dont want to see this happening.

So basically screw Kashmiris ,screw their rights and screw refrendum.

Thanks Lallu, I have got my answer :wave:
 
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